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Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 08:30
by jonny
He should have his license revoked by the "BRITISH" boxing board of control
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 08:33
by hc tibwal.
jonny wrote:He should have his license revoked by the "BRITISH" boxing board of control
No way, what message would that send?
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 08:43
by jonny
hc tibwal. wrote:banjo wrote:Carlos-Wigan wrote:I don't agree with Small whatsoever but he has the right to say whatever he thinks.
Here here
Agree.
What right does he have to shout abuse at British soldiers who are risking their lives and witnessing their comrades shot down or blown up all in their line of duty. This is a war against terrorism and remember if these boys had not signed up to do the job that they are having to do then each and every one of us could have been out in these warzones due to conscription. Our armed forces needs these brave men and women that sign up to defend our country. God save them.
Small is a brainless pr*ck. And thats my right to say whatever i want
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 08:50
by Rocky Balboa
junior pepa seed wrote:A Muslim man who screamed abuse at heroic troops returning from Afghanistan is a former British boxing champion.
Anthony Small, who now calls himself Abdul Haqq, joined protesters who chanted "Murderers!" and "Baby killers!".
As a result allegedly has dropt the fighter (not with a punch) and took a hard stance. Small always had potential even if he jabbed like a kid who was doing doggy paddle......what a pratt.
Full story click on link
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... g-ace.html
I can't believe Small is acting this way! allegedly has every right to drop him. Well done Frank, I say!
Small should be very careful because the more he protests, the more he abuses soldiers returning home, one day he may just indeed touch a nerve with the wrong individual & who knows what would happen then? People's emotions are running high & very deep in respect of the Soldiers!
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 08:57
by markp
in this thread we see the exact same attitude and comments that were directed at Ali a few decades ago.
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 09:06
by TheCobra
Small has every right to say what he wishes, he is obviously a very troubled, lonely individual who has been led astray by someone filling his gullible head with nonsense. For me though there is a line between freedom of speech and provocation/breach of the peace. Those protesters were treading that line VERY finely. They are lucky they live in a very open and tolerant country. If we were a slightly less tolerant country, they would be arrested and tried for those sorts of protests.
As a professional boxer he has a duty to his own career to tread carfully in what he says and to not provoke anger from the good people of this country, the same people who go to his shows. Unfortunately that is what he has now done. He won't get any future work now in UK/America, so well done Small, you just committed career suicide.
The worrying thing for me is that headcases like Small have the perfect profile of the type of people who then go on to do something truly misjudged, like try and set off a bomb somewhere or something equally mental in 'protest'. He has just thrown away a career in boxing, making a further martyr of himself so he might now feel he has nothing left to lose and do something really daft. I hope I am of course wrong but this guy is a truly strange character.
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 09:21
by whiskey
I remember him entering the ring at the 02 to some sort of eerie religious Islamic chanting music, whilst wearing a black cape and death mask...
...on a day that something like 6 young troops were killed in an ambush. If you back the war or not, that's bad taste.
I dont like anyone ramming religion of any sort down my throat - as apart from decent architecture, it's brought nothing but arguments and death for hundreds of years.
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 09:30
by funso banjo baby
G0mez wrote:I remember him entering the ring at the 02 to some sort of eerie religious Islamic chanting music, whilst wearing a black cape and death mask...
...on a day that something like 6 young troops were killed in an ambush. If you back the war or not, that's bad taste.
I dont like anyone ramming religion of any sort down my throat - as apart from decent architecture, it's brought nothing but arguments and death for hundreds of years.
what has a ring entrance got to do with this pathetic war?
you consent in this bloody and illegal war HAS KILLED THE Soldiers
your acceptance of this embarrassing war killed them ....deal with it...and stop looking for enemies that arent really there.
Bush and Blair started this.....they are the ones with blood on their hands and riches in their pockets
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 09:31
by banjo
TheCobra wrote:Small has every right to say what he wishes, he is obviously a very troubled, lonely individual who has been led astray by someone filling his gullible head with nonsense. For me though there is a line between freedom of speech and provocation/breach of the peace. Those protesters were treading that line VERY finely. They are lucky they live in a very open and tolerant country. If we were a slightly less tolerant country, they would be arrested and tried for those sorts of protests.
They'd get a lot worse than that I imagine, you try something like that in Russia or especially China you'd probably be executed.
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 09:32
by brian13
This is fantastic, this bender is getting exposed.
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 09:40
by bennie
Add 11 other wankers to the list.
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 09:46
by Horse
jonny wrote:He should have his license revoked by the "BRITISH" boxing board of control
No, he shouldn't.
What did he do that was so bad anyway? Did he spit or throw anything at the soldiers? Did he call for their death? Did he break any law?
What is the worst thing he is meant to have done or said?
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 09:53
by leforge
Horse wrote:jonny wrote:He should have his license revoked by the "BRITISH" boxing board of control
No, he shouldn't.
What did he do that was so bad anyway? Did he spit or throw anything at the soldiers? Did he call for their death? Did he break any law?
What is the worst thing he is meant to have done or said?
He a pudendum ! He should not be allowed in a British ring spitting at soldiers. Horse you think he ok to do that then your a idiot too!
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 09:59
by Horse
leforge wrote:He a pudendum ! He should not be allowed in a British ring spitting at soldiers.
Who has said he spat at soldiers? As far as I know he didn't.
leforge wrote:Horse you think he ok to do that then your a idiot too!
I don't agree with what Small did, but I don't see why people are making such a big deal about it.
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 10:07
by leforge
Small boxing career in the uk is over!
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 10:10
by Coco
Boxing is all about money, he will get work if he puts bums on seats, he never put bums on seats before, maybe people will pay to see him beat up now
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 10:36
by jonny
Horse wrote:jonny wrote:He should have his license revoked by the "BRITISH" boxing board of control
No, he shouldn't.
What did he do that was so bad anyway? Did he spit or throw anything at the soldiers? Did he call for their death? Did he break any law?
What is the worst thing he is meant to have done or said?
Horse you really dont think that there is anything wrong with shouting and hurling abuse at our young soldiers coming home from war, If they dont agree with the war fair enough but demonstrate it in the right direction but these lads have been out doing their duty, their job, they dont want to be out there themselves but they have a job to do and orders to adhere to. These lads are Hero's and I mean real hero's. Its disgusting that they return home from war and get this sort of abuse in there own country.
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 10:58
by Horse
jonny wrote:Horse you really dont think that there is anything wrong with shouting and hurling abuse at our young soldiers coming home from war,
I don't think a boxer should be banned for doing so. What abuse did Small hurl at them anyway?
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 11:05
by whiskey
funso banjo baby wrote:G0mez wrote:I remember him entering the ring at the 02 to some sort of eerie religious Islamic chanting music, whilst wearing a black cape and death mask...
...on a day that something like 6 young troops were killed in an ambush. If you back the war or not, that's bad taste.
I dont like anyone ramming religion of any sort down my throat - as apart from decent architecture, it's brought nothing but arguments and death for hundreds of years.
what has a ring entrance got to do with this pathetic war?
you consent in this bloody and illegal war HAS KILLED THE Soldiers
your acceptance of this embarrassing war killed them ....deal with it...and stop looking for enemies that arent really there.
Bush and Blair started this.....they are the ones with blood on their hands and riches in their pockets
You think coming into the ring dressed in black, wearing a horror mask to islamic music on a day a load of British troops got blown up is a good thing then?
I thought he may have just been plain ignorant, but now having seen his participation in this demo now definitely leads me to think it was wholly intentional.
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 11:18
by Srebmun
jonny wrote:Horse you really dont think that there is anything wrong with shouting and hurling abuse at our young soldiers coming home from war, If they dont agree with the war fair enough but demonstrate it in the right direction but these lads have been out doing their duty, their job, they dont want to be out there themselves but they have a job to do and orders to adhere to. These lads are Hero's and I mean real hero's. Its disgusting that they return home from war and get this sort of abuse in there own country.
What a load of tosh, hero's me arse.
They get abuse 'in their own country' cos they're fighting an illegal war in someones else's.
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 11:38
by Autobarn
small was abysmal anyway in his last 2 fights. he may have some speed but he's never been very good, and if you ask me he was offensive before he came out with any of this political stuff with his gibbering and his showing off.
soldiers who have just come back having served in a controversial war are easy targets, and whether you agree with the conflict or not, they were more likely to be taking orders than giving. it's not like the soldiers necessarily all signed up just so they could do some "crusading" and what ppl like small are doing is simplifying things and generalising all soldiers as one type.
still you have to worry perhaps about boxers getting dropped due to their beliefs, though what small was doing seems inflammatory, and looking at the pic he actually seems to be revelling in it. obviously boxing wants inoffensive muslims like khan, or muslims whose greatest moment of controversy hinges on whether or not he will shave off his beard (danny williams). small's face obviously doesn't fit, plus he's not very good anyway.
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 13:11
by jonny
Srebmun wrote:jonny wrote:Horse you really dont think that there is anything wrong with shouting and hurling abuse at our young soldiers coming home from war, If they dont agree with the war fair enough but demonstrate it in the right direction but these lads have been out doing their duty, their job, they dont want to be out there themselves but they have a job to do and orders to adhere to. These lads are Hero's and I mean real hero's. Its disgusting that they return home from war and get this sort of abuse in there own country.
What a load of tosh, hero's me arse.
They get abuse 'in their own country' cos they're fighting an illegal war in someones else's.
Rubbish these lads are not doing anything Illegal they are having to do what they are told because this is their job, to protect us and to protect our country. whether you agree with the war or not this has nothing to do with the guys out there getting blown up or getting shot at. Now flying planes into office blocks and killing thousands, blowing tube stations up, blowing buses up, trying to blow planes up, blowing railway stations up, blowing hotels up etc etc etc thats illegal....
Yes they are Hero's, What do you class as hero's your football team winning a cup and having a open top bus parading the streets.
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 13:52
by rollernads
what a class a plantpot
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 14:39
by hc tibwal.
Small is entitled to his opinion, and for all the 'THEY ARE HEROES' there are people from other parts of the world that are dead also and the Afghan/Iraqi or whoever they were have family and friends that grieve for them just as the soldoiers have their families and friends here.
WAR SUCKS AND BLAIR/BUSH MADE THIS PLACE THE WAY IT IS NOW.
Also, if you do not agree with the war, do not fight, lots of people leave the army because they disagree with certain things.
Life is life, precious and many people innocent or otherwise have been killed.
In The Gulf War lots of the UK soldiers that came back were killed by 'friendly fire' and thats worse than fighting the enemy if you ask me.
Small has offended many, but he has also gone up in the estimation of many, he is steadfast in his belief and he does have a point, not 100% correct, but he has a point to his beliefs.
THE GREEDY YANKS AND GREEDY BLAIR ARE THE CAUSE OF THIS SHIT BEING PART OF UK LIFE.
We were not bombed to shit on the tumes before this happened!
ALSO,WHAT ABOUT THE IRA AND THEIR REIGN OF TERROR? NO ONE MADE ANY WAR AGAINST THEM,THEY HAD TV TIME AND A PLATFORM TO VOICE THEIR OPINIONS.
Ask yourself this, if some country carpet bombed the living daylights out of your family what would you say? Regardless of the re3asoning behund it, what would you say if your total family were wiped out?
We have to see things from all sides and be understanding of another mans plight/opinion.
That said, Small is a tit.
Re: Plonker smalls in the Sun today..oh dear
Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 14:40
by overhand_right
junior pepa seed wrote:A Muslim man who screamed abuse at heroic troops returning from Afghanistan is a former British boxing champion.
Anthony Small, who now calls himself Abdul Haqq, joined protesters who chanted "Murderers!" and "Baby killers!".
I agree with Small.
We shouldn't be in Afghanistan.
A lot of problems could be solved and people pacified by the UK and US not occupying other peoples lands.
Would we like Afghani soldiers occupying the UK?