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FTM,

You are more of an expert about boxing than most on here - I see you are "quoted" as stating that Jaffa could be a world champion in future years - do you truly believe he has shown sufficient promise thus far to be worthy of such praise and what fights in particular of Jaffa's career thus far have impressed you??

For the record not a dig - I seriously want Jaffa to do well, although I admit I have some doubts - Jaffa has been pivotal in the resurgence of the sport in these parts and for that he deserves all the support the north east can give him!!!

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:

jBacca wrote:
I don't think Newcastle is anywhere near being the 'home of boxing'.

Who the f*ck said Newcastle? Not me! You won't get me (or Jaffa) lauding those Geordie bastards! 8)

Hagler2002 wrote:

whicker wrote:

Hagler2002 wrote:6 womens bouts (all models) .

Real boxing, or "cosmetic" boxing??

As I said it was a charity event, these 12 women are fighting for a good cause

for sure, I like models- and I like boxing.

But generally, it's two different things...

Taking models and making them actually fight, not sure that would work for me.

Like, I enjoy curry, and enjoy ice cream.

But not mixed together.

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:

jBacca wrote:
I don't think Newcastle is anywhere near being the 'home of boxing'.

Who the f*ck said Newcastle? Not me! You won't get me (or Jaffa) lauding those Geordie bastards! 8)

I realised when Whicker corrected me.

You're Boro right? Urghh....

FtmPress wrote:

Hagler2002 wrote: I was at a 'White Collar' event at the Fed Brewery in Gateshead a couple of weeks ago and the place was full, it was a great afternoon with nine 3x2mins bouts and two 4x2mins bouts.

Is this not a boxing forum so why are we trying to sell none boxing shows on here please tell me how you can call a white collar event a boxing show

So what is it?

The EBF card I went too was a damn site better than when I went to see Froch V's Dirrell and the dross that was served up on the undercard, at least I seen 11 competitive fights.

Good times in the NE at the mo

Hall, Jaffa and the Dickinson boys.

Good stuff

DD

Fair play to Maolney

jBacca wrote:

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:

jBacca wrote:
I don't think Newcastle is anywhere near being the 'home of boxing'.

Who the f*ck said Newcastle? Not me! You won't get me (or Jaffa) lauding those Geordie bastards! 8)

I realised when Whicker corrected me.

You're Boro right? Urghh....

Alright, alright, no need for that

At least I'll have some interest in this season's Premier League...if you get my drift 8)

Ian - McBoro will win the championship.

There you go thats a prediction!!

whicker wrote:

Hagler2002 wrote:

whicker wrote: Real boxing, or "cosmetic" boxing??

As I said it was a charity event, these 12 women are fighting for a good cause

for sure, I like models- and I like boxing.

But generally, it's two different things...

Taking models and making them actually fight, not sure that would work for me.

Like, I enjoy curry, and enjoy ice cream.

But not mixed together.

So I take it you disagree with people running the London Marathon in fancy dress?

Wrists wrote:Ian - McBoro will win the championship.

There you go thats a prediction!!

I bet you're only saying this to guarantee we won't because you probably get f*ck all right

Strachan seems to keep buying Jock rejects.

Only been to one Show in Newcastle , Amir Khan v Salita fight... The main event didnt last long but had a good undercard with Mitchell, Degale, Gavin, Saunders, Simpson, Stephen Smith, big Enzo, Tony Bellew and Ronnie Heffron all getting wins in a good show.... Was a good night, and would like another night out down there.. suprised theres not alot more big fights there to be honest

Nothern Ireland can be proud of its boxing heritage aswell. For what is virtually a one city region its got a great history of boxers and boxing shows to put it up there.

It is either London or the Manchester / Liverpool region. Loads of top fighters in those areas

Chris W 1982 wrote:Put this up to provoke debate as I think our Bronze medallist is way off the mark.

I still regard Manchester or Liverpool as boxing's hotbed at the moment with the latter due to pull ahead in the coming years.

Our amateurs are close to regaining the spotlight they accomplished during the middle of last decade as we enjoyed a solid ABA campaign, had Callum Smith and Tom Stalker do superb in International competition, and also enjoyed decent Schoolboy and Junior campaigns.

Paul Smith is closing in on global honours, younger brother Stephen could join Martin Murray and Tony Bellew as Commonwealth kings this autumn, and the remaining pool of talent has envious opportunities.

Joe Selkirk, Ste Jennings, Nathan Brough, Nick MacDonald, Paul Edwards, John Watson, David Price, Liam Smith, Gary Davies, Paul Edwards, John Donnelly, Tony Quigley and Derry Mathews are just a number of boxers who can be hopeful of being positioned in title clashes within the next 18 months.

I'm picking Liverpool as capital of UK boxing, lets hear other peoples thoughts.

Chris,

What is happening with John Donnelly? I remember seeing him on the undercard of Barnes-Bami in Urmston, Mcr a couple of years back and being quite impressed with his attitude. But, he doesn't seem to have been too active since then.

Hagler2002 wrote:

So I take it you disagree with people running the London Marathon in fancy dress?

Moot point, seeing as I'm not interested in running. Or fancy dress.

I'm not disagreeing with anything.

I'm just saying, what actually is it?

It is proper boxing, or is it models arseing about in gloves and boxing gear (quite popular in the USA, I think?)

I think John Donnelly took a big setback when he was knocked out by Gavin Reid from.....Redcar!

I enjoyed it in Newcastle when I watched that Contender USA V UK event (apart from the A1) but the North East has only ever produced one major world champion.

whicker wrote: It is proper boxing, or is it models arseing about in gloves and boxing gear (quite popular in the USA, I think?)

No its not proper boxing, its 12 woman who have never boxed before making a lot of money for charity, quite simple really but considering this is the 3rd time Ive had to tell you this I guess it just isn't registering.

The other 6 bouts on the card will feature men in EBF fights which I would class as boxing, some of the lads I watched last time were actually very good.

Chris W 1982 wrote:Put this up to provoke debate as I think our Bronze medallist is way off the mark.

I still regard Manchester or Liverpool as boxing's hotbed at the moment with the latter due to pull ahead in the coming years.

Our amateurs are close to regaining the spotlight they accomplished during the middle of last decade as we enjoyed a solid ABA campaign, had Callum Smith and Tom Stalker do superb in International competition, and also enjoyed decent Schoolboy and Junior campaigns.

Paul Smith is closing in on global honours, younger brother Stephen could join Martin Murray and Tony Bellew as Commonwealth kings this autumn, and the remaining pool of talent has envious opportunities.

Joe Selkirk, Ste Jennings, Nathan Brough, Nick MacDonald, Paul Edwards, John Watson, David Price, Liam Smith, Gary Davies, Paul Edwards, John Donnelly, Tony Quigley and Derry Mathews are just a number of boxers who can be hopeful of being positioned in title clashes within the next 18 months.

I'm picking Liverpool as capital of UK boxing, lets hear other peoples thoughts.

are you seripous ?

the capital of boxing in the uk is manchester ,look at all the big title fights in the uk and youlkl see most of them have happend in manchester .

Seems to me like the Capital of UK boxing moves around.

Manchester appears to be the go to town in the UK overall in the last number of years.

Alba wrote:

Chris W 1982 wrote:Put this up to provoke debate as I think our Bronze medallist is way off the mark.

I still regard Manchester or Liverpool as boxing's hotbed at the moment with the latter due to pull ahead in the coming years.

Our amateurs are close to regaining the spotlight they accomplished during the middle of last decade as we enjoyed a solid ABA campaign, had Callum Smith and Tom Stalker do superb in International competition, and also enjoyed decent Schoolboy and Junior campaigns.

Paul Smith is closing in on global honours, younger brother Stephen could join Martin Murray and Tony Bellew as Commonwealth kings this autumn, and the remaining pool of talent has envious opportunities.

Joe Selkirk, Ste Jennings, Nathan Brough, Nick MacDonald, Paul Edwards, John Watson, David Price, Liam Smith, Gary Davies, Paul Edwards, John Donnelly, Tony Quigley and Derry Mathews are just a number of boxers who can be hopeful of being positioned in title clashes within the next 18 months.

I'm picking Liverpool as capital of UK boxing, lets hear other peoples thoughts.

are you seripous ?

the capital of boxing in the uk is manchester ,look at all the big title fights in the uk and youlkl see most of them have happend in manchester .

With the exception of Ricky Hatton, how many legitimate title fights featured Mancunian fighters.

I'm not sure how we should percieve "Capital of Boxing"

Is it based on current talent? Emerging stars? Number of gyms? Or the amount of shows being put on?

Liverpool wins the first 2 handily but is lacking in the final 2.

Winkveron, Donnelly is doing ok since the Reid setback. He's eing trained alongside Nick MacDonald and Nathan Brough and is being promoted by Frank Maloney. He looked impressive last time out as he stopped Andy bell in 3 back in May. He's hopeful of a domestic title shot in the near future.

Terry, the comment was a response to Alba's comment about "Big title fights."

By this I was assuming he meant Khan's win against Kotelnik and April's havyweight bash featuring Haye and Ruiz.

Spud wrote:FTM,

You are more of an expert about boxing than most on here - I see you are "quoted" as stating that Jaffa could be a world champion in future years - do you truly believe he has shown sufficient promise thus far to be worthy of such praise and what fights in particular of Jaffa's career thus far have impressed you??

For the record not a dig - I seriously want Jaffa to do well, although I admit I have some doubts - Jaffa has been pivotal in the resurgence of the sport in these parts and for that he deserves all the support the north east can give him!!!

My job as a promoter of a fighter is obviously to raise the profile of a fighter and to speak positive of him, I do believe that Tony Jeffries has the potential to go a long way in the boxing world. With so many different world body's the right manoeuvering, the right fights at the right time, it is not impossible to take a good fighter to a world title.

Tony Jeffries is still an apprentice professional with high expectations, not only from me but from his loyal fans in the North East. So at the moment he is under pressure to perform in front of them everytime. The performances in the ring may not please everybody and up until today I have still not marked 10/10 for any of his performances but with each fight I see different things and the reports I get from the gym and his training sessions are what I need.

When I talk about Tony winning a world title, I am not talking about tomorrow. All of us promoters have plans and ways we want to manoeuvre our fighters careers, so far I am pleased with both Tony Jeffries and David Price's performances in their short career to date, the problem is not only my 2 olympians but also fw's one's, the general boxing fans expectations are too high and expect too much too early from these fighters. The change from top class amateur to pro takes time, unfortunatley amateur and pro are so far apart now, it's like being a beginner for these fighters when they disregard their vests. I believe that Jeffries and Price, plus a few others in my stable will go all the way and fight and win recognised world titles.

FtmPress wrote:

Spud wrote:FTM,

You are more of an expert about boxing than most on here - I see you are "quoted" as stating that Jaffa could be a world champion in future years - do you truly believe he has shown sufficient promise thus far to be worthy of such praise and what fights in particular of Jaffa's career thus far have impressed you??

For the record not a dig - I seriously want Jaffa to do well, although I admit I have some doubts - Jaffa has been pivotal in the resurgence of the sport in these parts and for that he deserves all the support the north east can give him!!!

My job as a promoter of a fighter is obviously to raise the profile of a fighter and to speak positive of him, I do believe that Tony Jeffries has the potential to go a long way in the boxing world. With so many different world body's the right manoeuvering, the right fights at the right time, it is not impossible to take a good fighter to a world title.

Tony Jeffries is still an apprentice professional with high expectations, not only from me but from his loyal fans in the North East. So at the moment he is under pressure to perform in front of them everytime. The performances in the ring may not please everybody and up until today I have still not marked 10/10 for any of his performances but with each fight I see different things and the reports I get from the gym and his training sessions are what I need.

When I talk about Tony winning a world title, I am not talking about tomorrow. All of us promoters have plans and ways we want to manoeuvre our fighters careers, so far I am pleased with both Tony Jeffries and David Price's performances in their short career to date, the problem is not only my 2 olympians but also fw's one's, the general boxing fans expectations are too high and expect too much too early from these fighters. The change from top class amateur to pro takes time, unfortunatley amateur and pro are so far apart now, it's like being a beginner for these fighters when they disregard their vests. I believe that Jeffries and Price, plus a few others in my stable will go all the way and fight and win recognised world titles.

Thank you very much for the prompt and very in depth response!!

Hagler2002 wrote:
No its not proper boxing, its 12 woman who have never boxed before making a lot of money for charity

Womens white collar boxing can be good boxing (if done seriously.)