The future of Tyson Fury?

[Deserter]

Tyson is going to be his own worst enemy.There is no way he is going to go away to training camps or live away from home in order to work with another trainer.Its not his culture,he needs his family around him and he will keep doing what he has always done.I dont believe Mick H has helped with all those ridiculous press releases or his Dad telling everyone how great he is.They put huge pressure on a guy who is only a baby,mentally.You could see when he was crying after winning the McDermott rematch he needs looking after.Its a shame as he has a lot of good points,great heart,good chin and despite looking fecked,never gassed even under pressure for ten rounds against McDermott,not easy to do when your probably about 60% of your possible fitness.Hes got this far with very limited resources and not too many bouts.Of course there is potential i just cant see him realising it.

That pretty much nails it all on the head for me. We can debate all day regarding his potential, but the bottom line is that I've yet to see anyone make a compelling case for him ever being able to realise it.

[Scrap]

Darling, as anybody with an eye for this sort of thing . His big problem is Oral balance, being a big lad doesnt Help to much. Probably wants to see this guy.http://www.drdeanhowell.com/

[DavidPayne]

Tyson is a baby in heavyweight terms.

Tyson has shown great bottle to survive in fights in which he was running on empty.

Tyson is an accident waiting to happen.

I'd love to know what allegedly would be doing with him now, if he had him.

Would he insist on a trainer in which he trusted and insist on Tyson forgoing his home comforts?

I cannot believe he can reach the top without some more credible prep, sure Calzaghe reached the top with a family member with no real previous.

But Calzaghe was a freak, gifted, hard-working etc.

Tyson Fury is gifted, but not that gifted. The desire to work hard, irrespective of age and other psycho babble mentioned, is a gift too.
One Tyson doesn't appear to have. He only seems willing to learn with the gloves on, either sparring or fighting. But he cannot maximise that learning if he doesn't develop his conditioning. He'll learn bad-habits because it will always be part-survival due to stamina.

[Asterix]

Sam Peter, Chris Arreola, Tyson Fury. All boxers who said they would get into better shape, but only managed to do it a little bit, and temporarily. I don't think Fury has the desire or determination to really go far.

[funso banjo baby]

next opp should be richard towers or danny hughes

[DavidPayne]

Someone as big as him with iffy stamina, to push him around a bit early.

Then someone with good stamina to bother him from bell to bell.

[ourkid1984]

I think time and title fights will show what Fury has really got to offer.

My personal opinion is that his technique is not too far off of being a decent standard and having watched hs last fight he looked better when boxing from behind the jab and strangely when the other guy hit him. I think he has power but doesn't know how to use it properly, although that Power did take a few hard shots and not being able to knock McDermott out in a single punch doesn't mean he hasn't got any power.

A fight against either Chisora or Sexton will tell me more about his mindset and abillity and after all he was lighter than he was against McDermott so maybe he is trying to get in shape.

I think the problem is that to improve further he may have to change trainer which he is unlikely to do with it being his dad.

[Autobarn]

future of tyson fury?

probably the same as any other heavyweight whose face fits but who isn't that good:

heavyweight hype, some decent paydays and then timber...

didn't like how he kept trying to turn away from mcdermott in the rematch, though it was an entertaining match. there seems to be a certain anxiety in fury's work, and a lack of real core strength.

[Tykemania]

I watched Fury's fight in full last night and was impressed, overall. I don't know why there are negative takes on it. He showed improvement in stamina and technique, while not (obviously) being the finished article by any means. The opponent was game and they produced an entertaining scrap. Tyson won clearly and showed some real talent, and the American commentators were positive about what they saw from him. I've seen all of his fights and I think he's streets ahead of where he was a year ago. He is very young and inexperienced, good luck to the lad

As another who actually saw the fight, I have to largely concur - whilst it was hardly the second coming of Mike Tyson, he was fighting a guy hewn from granite and won comfortably. My take is that if he really wants to be a somebody in the sport, he needs to up sticks and live in the States for a couple of years, get a top notch trainer to help him work his shoulders into those punches rather than shaking them through with the arm, and maybe run a bit of that flab off...

[Wrists]

It would appear to be very simple from where I am standing.

Less beer, pies, chips.

Buy a pair of running trainers.

Listen to a trainer and stick with him

Bobs yer uncle

[mickey1975]

It would appear to be very simple from where I am standing.

Less beer, pies, chips.

Buy a pair of running trainers.

Listen to a trainer and stick with him

Bobs yer uncle

Hughie is his uncle.Thats half the problem

[Darling]

Darling, as anybody with an eye for this sort of thing . His big problem is Oral balance, being a big lad doesnt Help to much. Probably wants to see this guy.http://www.drdeanhowell.com/

Good point, Scrap.

I'm not 100% sure Tyson needs it but I might sign up for the course myself.

Look at one of the testimononials on the site:

"It totally helps. And I think it's made me taller. The doctor said I would be 5'4" and I'm 5'10" so..."

[Grilling Machine]

I can't watch him fight without thinking of this fella: http://i52.tinypic.com/2yv4cup.jpg

[bennie]

Tyson Fury is far from the second Ali but he has much more talent and skill than his dad, John Fury. John Fury had no amateur record and turned professional on the basis of mainly bare-knuckle experience. He was indeed a big tough guy - I saw him fight (and lose to Neil Malpass) for the Central Area title about twenty years ago. He came up the hard way but he had little in terms of boxing skills and was more of a journeyman than anything. Tyson Fury, on the other hand, has had an extensive amateur career, has a fair degree of skill, and is being managed and promoted as a prospect. There are significant differences between the two.

I wish I hadn't bothered saying anything, because heavies bore me to tears, but John Fury - and his heavyweight brother, Peter - boxed amateur for the Accrington club. John was never losing consistently enough to be a journeyman, in your words, and indeed was marketed as a prospect, co-managed for a time by allegedly.

I stand corrected, Bennie. I was always thought he had no amateur record. The way he performed on his debut against Adam Fogerty certainly gave me the impression he didn't have properly schooled boxing skills. He looked very crude against Malpass too.

I was quite impressed with Fogerty when I watched him fight an American at the Elephant years ago. (The Yank wanted to know where the best night spot was afterwards). Fogerty, strangely, just drifted from the scene with a fine record.