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deadpan wrote:Completely off topic, but the Rademacher reference reminds me of Rocky 4. If Drago had been allowed to go from the amateur game (quote Henry Cooper) to a 15 round fight against the reigning world champion, wouldn't it have reeked of a callous mismatch? Regardless of Apollo's plight.

Yes, I'm questioning the reality of the Rocky films.

Yes, it's one of the many reasons I don't really like Rocky IV. Even allowing for the poetic license of the entire franchise, there are just too many absurdly unrealistic things in Rocky IV which bother me as a boxing fan. Your point is of course one of them, and not only that, but Drago is considered a massive betting favourite vs Balboa!

LeedsLad wrote:Does anyone really count the WBO anyway?

exactly

they do now that the major name has it.

According to Boxrec - and bearing in mind it could very well be an incomplete record - Johnny Davis was just 3-3 when he challenged Joe Louis.

Crikey. Steve Davis would've stood more chance.

And imagine the explosive press conferences.

jonp wrote:Fireman Jim Flynns career win percentage was only 54 percent when he fought jack johnson but having 15 draws doesnt help.

just realised Flynn fought tommy burns and win perccentage then was 48 percent

Flynn knocked out Jack Dempsey in one round.

oliverfennell wrote:

deadpan wrote:Completely off topic, but the Rademacher reference reminds me of Rocky 4. If Drago had been allowed to go from the amateur game (quote Henry Cooper) to a 15 round fight against the reigning world champion, wouldn't it have reeked of a callous mismatch? Regardless of Apollo's plight.

Yes, I'm questioning the reality of the Rocky films.

Yes, it's one of the many reasons I don't really like Rocky IV. Even allowing for the poetic license of the entire franchise, there are just too many absurdly unrealistic things in Rocky IV which bother me as a boxing fan. Your point is of course one of them, and not only that, but Drago is considered a massive betting favourite vs Balboa!

Rocky came out of retirement tho, he wasn't the reigning champ

oliverfennell wrote:

deadpan wrote:Completely off topic, but the Rademacher reference reminds me of Rocky 4. If Drago had been allowed to go from the amateur game (quote Henry Cooper) to a 15 round fight against the reigning world champion, wouldn't it have reeked of a callous mismatch? Regardless of Apollo's plight.

Yes, I'm questioning the reality of the Rocky films.

Yes, it's one of the many reasons I don't really like Rocky IV. Even allowing for the poetic license of the entire franchise, there are just too many absurdly unrealistic things in Rocky IV which bother me as a boxing fan. Your point is of course one of them, and not only that, but Drago is considered a massive betting favourite vs Balboa!

yes but thats quite simple its because what evr he hits... he destroys its a film ffs!!!!! its meant for entertainment nothing else

oliverfennell wrote:According to Boxrec - and bearing in mind it could very well be an incomplete record - Johnny Davis was just 3-3 when he challenged Joe Louis.

Just boxrec-ed him and I saw that he retired with a 5-21 record.

Coco wrote:Rocky came out of retirement tho, he wasn't the reigning champ

He was still the champion when he fought Drago.

the truth wrote:

oliverfennell wrote:

deadpan wrote:Completely off topic, but the Rademacher reference reminds me of Rocky 4. If Drago had been allowed to go from the amateur game (quote Henry Cooper) to a 15 round fight against the reigning world champion, wouldn't it have reeked of a callous mismatch? Regardless of Apollo's plight.

Yes, I'm questioning the reality of the Rocky films.

Yes, it's one of the many reasons I don't really like Rocky IV. Even allowing for the poetic license of the entire franchise, there are just too many absurdly unrealistic things in Rocky IV which bother me as a boxing fan. Your point is of course one of them, and not only that, but Drago is considered a massive betting favourite vs Balboa!

yes but thats quite simple its because what evr he hits... he destroys its a film ffs!!!!! its meant for entertainment nothing else

True, but part of the appeal of Rocky 1 and (to a lesser extent) 6 is the realism. Rocky 4 was like watching a video game - the fight dynamics were about as realistic as beating down someone's energy bar.

hahaha ok

bennie wrote:

jonp wrote:Fireman Jim Flynns career win percentage was only 54 percent when he fought jack johnson but having 15 draws doesnt help.

just realised Flynn fought tommy burns and win perccentage then was 48 percent

Flynn knocked out Jack Dempsey in one round.

But was it legit?

Lenny wrote:

bennie wrote:

jonp wrote:Fireman Jim Flynns career win percentage was only 54 percent when he fought jack johnson but having 15 draws doesnt help.

just realised Flynn fought tommy burns and win perccentage then was 48 percent

Flynn knocked out Jack Dempsey in one round.

But was it legit?

It was legitimate. Dempsey was only a youngster and would gain ample revenge, but Flynn was an animal.

Don Cockell, Joe Erskine, Henry Cooper, Len Harvey, Jack Petersen, Johnny Williams and Tommy Farr all want a piece of Rock.

Great pic

bennie wrote:


Don Cockell, Joe Erskine, Henry Cooper, Len Harvey, Jack Petersen, Johnny Williams and Tommy Farr all want a piece of Rock.