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was getting abit sick of the complaining the hitting on the break and the slow motion right hand of bellew but if he fought cleverley it would be a one sided fight were i think cleverley would make bellew look like he was back in the amateurs,he would schooled as bellew once said to a comment i was commenting on brains beats brawn everytime so cleverley would destroy bellew in 4 rounds

Bomber went the distance, big deal. He's not going to ko everyone he faces. Its not the going to be the last time he has to go the full 12. And its probably not going to be the last time he has to get off the canvas to grind out the win. This doesn't make him any worse of a fighter than he was in his last outing. I think he has probably learned more in this one fight than he has in all his pro fights so far. Ive read a few quotes on here, saying that bellew can only fight one way and has no plan b. Thats because he hasnt needed a plan B so far.This fight has shown him that when he isnt able to floor someone early, he has too relax more.

i think this will be good for tony. Not only will he learn alot from this performance, but now with a bit of luck, people might want to fight him now.
He sounded really gutted with his performance, and i know he will come back stronger and more focused and will rule the light heavyweight division soon

Honestly it was very poor but there has to be more to Bombers game than that surely.

Tony, I know you like constructive stuff so please take this the way its meant.

You appeared to turn up just expecting to land a few haymakers/bombs and Bob would fall over, we all thought the same but surely you should have been prepared differently we just think a fight, you actually do the fighting.

The holding one hand out whilst you try and measure the other that you constantly did, was nothing short of dreadful, the moaning everytime he grabbed you, (you must of known he would do that up close or when he was in trouble) its what he does.

Your arms and legs seemed stuck in treacle, they seemed very slow in there last night, not too worried about the shot that put you down, you were correct it was very square on and you seemed to clear very quick, (non puncher perhaps) so it may be something you need to address as it would appear as you raise the class fights are going much longer and sometimes the distance, you don't want many 10-8 rounds against you.

Whilst other than the fact it was 12 rounds completed there is nothing you can take from the night really and I think thats the way you should view it, don't let others fill you with, "you did this champ and you did that champ" The distance is what you did and nothing else mate the rest was awful.

Now I know you sparred with Degale and I know those sessions were give and take and Degale had a harder spar with you than he has had fights, so you have to have abilities and plenty of them so lets get those taken into the ring, forget the crushing machine type action, back behind the jab, set it up, land, set it up, land, you clearly can do it, but I hope you meant back to the drawing board because thats where it leads now mate.

You love knockouts the crowd love knockouts, the ko's will still come with the boxing beforehand, Lennox Lewis was a beautifiul boxer but he was still a wreckng machine with the big punches that followed.


Good luck in the future I really hope you can make the adjustments.

That was an excellent post Global. I agree with every bit of it. I would also add -

Listen to your corner. They were giving you excellent instructions which you completly ignored. When you're knocking over no-hopers you can get away with doing as you please, but when a guy isn't going to fold like a pack of cards, you have to listen to the strategy given by your team.

Forget about Nathan Cleverly. Talking of how you'd beat him etc is just adding un-necessary pressure on you and makes you look foolish/delusional/arrogant - it's like Degle saying he'd beat Froch. Self confidence is one thing but don't let arrogance get the better of you. It gives your detractors an easy stick to beat you with.

Good Luck and I look forward to a improved performance.

bynino wrote:Bomber went the distance, big deal. He's not going to ko everyone he faces. Its not the going to be the last time he has to go the full 12. And its probably not going to be the last time he has to get off the canvas to grind out the win. This doesn't make him any worse of a fighter than he was in his last outing. I think he has probably learned more in this one fight than he has in all his pro fights so far. Ive read a few quotes on here, saying that bellew can only fight one way and has no plan b. Thats because he hasnt needed a plan B so far.This fight has shown him that when he isnt able to floor someone early, he has too relax more.

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What went wrong, is He lost His Head Literally. Great learning Fight, He will learn, big time from that. Welcome to Topping Bills

Scrap wrote:What went wrong, is He lost His Head Literally. Great learning Fight, He will learn, big time from that. Welcome to Topping Bills

Um, not "literally", Scrap.

What Bellews has is good Oral stability, last night it went missing.

Ajisafe is a very decent operator who, if he were really a full time pro would be a good British title challenger. Tony Bellew is on the way up; he needed the rounds and it was good to see him still throwing hard shots in the 12th. He did moan a bit to the ref and show to the crowd a bit but he had a lot of pressure on. Cleverley is getting ready for a world shot; Bomber Bellew will come back well from this and will knock a few more out before he's done. I hope Ajisafe gets some recognition and gets some good shots on the back of this. Bellew is a top boxer with power; to go 12 rounds with him is some achievement; better fighters wont go 6 with Bellew.

Entitled to your opinions, Not a problem.. Time will tell

It does not matter how you win, so long as you win and keep your O then that is all that matters, but all fighters will have an off night and sometimes it will cost them the win, othertimes they might pull through and win, but all the best for your next fight Bomber.

Bomber 1 wrote:Entitled to your opinions, Not a problem.. Time will tell

There's not everyone slating you; a hard spoiling fight is not a bad thing; you were still going for it till the last bell. Most of them slating you will slate the next man when he struggles. They want super heroes; you can't lay em all out and you've nothing to be upset about. A win is a win and you'll look far better next time out (and the Ajisafe will make you a better fighter). If you'd hit the lad square on he would've gone but that fight'dve been like all the others. Hope you don't have as much pressure on next time

Thanks again like I said, I learnt an awful lot about myself last night and I will go back to work on Tuesday and make it right, I'll say this much I am still champion and will work on my mistakes.. I just hope this draws guys outta the woodwork..

Aye, hopefully McIntosh wants a do (for the British).

Any idea of opponent for the 23rd?

Bomber 1 wrote:Thanks again like I said, I learnt an awful lot about myself last night and I will go back to work on Tuesday and make it right, I'll say this much I am still champion and will work on my mistakes.. I just hope this draws guys outta the woodwork..

Agreed it could actually be a blessing in disguise and we might get to see you fight alot more regularly. Look forward to your next fight.

One minor thing, I always thought your second name was pronounced Bell-yoo but everyone on tv seems to say Bal-ooo. What is the correct way to say your name?

Neri wrote:

Bomber 1 wrote:Thanks again like I said, I learnt an awful lot about myself last night and I will go back to work on Tuesday and make it right, I'll say this much I am still champion and will work on my mistakes.. I just hope this draws guys outta the woodwork..

Agreed it could actually be a blessing in disguise and we might get to see you fight alot more regularly. Look forward to your next fight.

One minor thing, I always thought your second name was pronounced Bell-yoo but everyone on tv seems to say Bal-ooo. What is the correct way to say your name?

Bell you, mate is the way I'll learn and you'll see a more focused me come the 23rd, Like I said though take nothing away from Bob Ajisafe he done great and put up a good fight..

I think the skill to learn is to be the one who nicks these scrappy rounds when the opponent is trying to spoil. Bob kept flicking enough jabs out to nick a lot of those rounds which is why it was close on one of the cards at least.
when you see the fight as a whole Bob spent probably 3/4s of the fight on the verge of being stopped but still got to within 115-114 on one card. You have to make sure that it would be 119-109 in similar circumstances and I reckon you will.

Bomber 1 wrote:Thanks again like I said, I learnt an awful lot about myself last night and I will go back to work on Tuesday and make it right, I'll say this much I am still champion and will work on my mistakes.. I just hope this draws guys outta the woodwork..

Sit down, watch tape, make notes. Go back to gym, work on what it says in your notes. Next time out confidence is high because you've worked on what you feel you need to. All equals better performance.

Scrap wrote:What Bellews has is good Oral stability, last night it went missing.

Good oral stability?!

I have to be honest and say if I was a pro I dont think I could face coming on here after a bad performance!We're savages and you have to have incredibly thick skin to cope with it!

lefty wrote:I have to be honest and say if I was a pro I dont think I could face coming on here after a bad performance!We're savages and you have to have incredibly thick skin to cope with it!

Carl Dilks and Tony Bellew have both stood up to criticism though i'm sure it has not been easy; fair play to them both. I'd not have the arse either to box or to respond to heavily critical remarks by faceless others.

Every good fighter has a bad night on the way up, even if it's a win. All part of learning on the job and with any luck, improving as a result.
Tony needs to forget he's got the knock out punch, just keep it as a backup plan B - I mean that's a helluva get out of jail card you're keeping in reserve.
Concentrate on outboxing and out thinking the other guy, piling up the points, punching up and down and going for a few big right hands and left hooks every now and then, while the opponent is busy trying to work out the jab. Tony got stuck in a rut, and loaded up on the big punches all night.
He wont go wrong watching some Michael Spinks fights, a great rangy LH puncher, who'd outbox his opponents, then sucker them onto the Spinks Jinx and goodnight sweet prince.

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lefty wrote:I have to be honest and say if I was a pro I dont think I could face coming on here after a bad performance!We're savages and you have to have incredibly thick skin to cope with it!

Carl Dilks and Tony Bellew have both stood up to criticism though i'm sure it has not been easy; fair play to them both. I'd not have the arse either to box or to respond to heavily critical remarks by faceless others.

Lefty, Oral Cavity above the kneck, the Head. Everything works of it as regards Neurophysical response. It wasnt where it normally is as regards His posture.