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Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 05 Oct 2010, 11:35
by Mukel
Junior Macdonald looked good to me, he got beaten and never came back, thought he had a lot of promise.

Fola O'Kes interested me when he made his debut, dont know what happened to him, didnt look to have a huge amount of promise but im suprised he gave up as quickly as he did.

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 05 Oct 2010, 11:39
by bennie
Drugs also lost Mario Culpepper to the game. Another Manchester man, Peter English, pipped Colin McMillan to the ABA featherweight title in 1987 and turned pro a couple of years later and went unbeaten in eight fights or so - then nothing.

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 05 Oct 2010, 11:43
by sgtcecil
simon fox wrote:
chris s wrote:The standout for me is Mario Culpepper. He may well have been a special talent.
Mike Maguire looked exceptional and is apparently having a year out of the sport; not sure whether he felt fed up or burnt out; he was a great junior.
Remember watching him fight against james ancliff on the lindsay vs appleby undercard. Didn't impress me at all and was very lucky to get the win IMO - ancliff should havce got at least a share for his troubles. Seem to remember adam booth saying the same post fight as it was on setanta.

Am I wrong in thinking that he taken the huff over something after the fight?

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 05 Oct 2010, 11:47
by JamesH
Mukel wrote:Junior Macdonald looked good to me, he got beaten and never came back, thought he had a lot of promise.
Yep I remember that fight, Tommy Eastwood jumped on him and totally over powered him. Eastwood had a couple more fights but I dont think he has been seen since losing to Rob Norton (2 fights after fighting Macdonald).

Sky real lives sometimes replay an old show, think its called Real Boxing, or Real Boxers. They showed a bit of Macdonald, he was a junior am and looked talented. The show had a number of others making their way in the am game... from memory, a young Don Broadhurst, Kevin Mitchell and Darren Barker all featured.

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 05 Oct 2010, 12:00
by mickey1975
Coco wrote:Shaun Cooper, think he just didn't have the time as his business was going well, a scaffolder I think

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

Bradley Welsh, I think he got in some bother

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
Danny Dyer did a programme on Welsh.

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 05 Oct 2010, 12:04
by Tommy Gunn13
mickey1975 wrote:
Coco wrote:Shaun Cooper, think he just didn't have the time as his business was going well, a scaffolder I think

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

Bradley Welsh, I think he got in some bother

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
Danny Dyer did a programme on Welsh.
is that the same chap?

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 05 Oct 2010, 12:57
by bluenoseshf
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:
Coco wrote:Shaun Cooper, think he just didn't have the time as his business was going well, a scaffolder I think

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

Bradley Welsh, I think he got in some bother

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
Danny Dyer did a programme on Welsh.
is that the same chap?
Yea i think so, Welsh now runs the Holyrood amatuer club in edinburgh. He a very good coach been going there on and off for the last couple of years.

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 05 Oct 2010, 13:39
by whatashambles
Joe McNally and Yuri Romanov spring to mind

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 05 Oct 2010, 14:16
by Londonirish
Counter-puncher wrote:
gobbles wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:Billy Corcoran, lost a british title tilt to Johansson, had a couple of keep-busy fights including a nice little 8 round tussle with Steve Gethin, hasn't done owt since then (2007)

I think he had eye trouble and had to retire. Was told he was now into body building and had stuck on a pile of weight.
thanks :TU:

He's about L-Heavy at the mo, but dont look one bit over weight, carries it really well, he's helping out training the Kids at Stowe boxing gym... Eddie has packed it in also is abit over his fighting weight now but he's taller, looks lean and muscly...

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 05 Oct 2010, 14:24
by JamesH
Londonirish wrote:He's about L-Heavy at the mo, but dont look one bit over weight, carries it really well, he's helping out training the Kids at Stowe boxing gym... Eddie has packed it in also is abit over his fighting weight now but he's taller, looks lean and muscly...
Cheers Martin. Im shocked Eddie packed it in so soon though... I remember thinking being matched against Vassell in Eddies first fight at welter was a tough one but didnt think it'd be his last fight!

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 05 Oct 2010, 14:32
by hurlock
faisel five asthma pump's mohammad?? what a specimen :!:

mark prince.

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 05 Oct 2010, 14:39
by funso banjo baby
Hovic Keuchkerian hw

keith spencer us hw

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 05 Oct 2010, 15:00
by Londonirish
Kyle.Wilson.86 wrote:I have noticed alot recently that there have been many up and coming prospects who start off the pro game well and suddenly just never box again? :box:

Does anyone know why the following have never boxed since?

Ian Wilson - southpaw - camden town - last boxed 2007 and last fight knocked out Henry Castle? Undefeated :box:


Ian was a great boxer, we went through the Am's together. He reached the NABC's finsl in only his 9th fight boxed Robert Nelson it was 12-12 and lost on a count back 28-29. Nelson at the time would of 60 odd fights.. Ian has had a lot of Back Problems, always try and keeps fit does lots of Runs just as he think maybe he can Box again the Back goes, such a pitty...

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 05 Oct 2010, 15:13
by chubs
whatashambles wrote:Joe McNally and Yuri Romanov spring to mind
yuri romanov was class :box:

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 05 Oct 2010, 17:11
by Jeff Thomas
Steve Murray
Steven 'tiger' Matthews- best I ever boxed.

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 05 Oct 2010, 21:15
by R7TKO
Ben Carey wrote:Simon Francis, Sheffield cruiserweight previously under Dave Coldwell.

Neil Dawson, Rotherham cruiser, trained by Chris Aston, who was being eyemarked to take on Francis in a local derby. Both were unbeaten.

Kevin Lear (persistent injury, shame)

Ian Wilson (stopped Henry Castle a while back but then hasn't fought since)

Danny Parkinson (I think) Yorkshire light-middle who stopped Jason Rushton with body shots inside a round to win the Central Area title. Hasn't fought since.
Danny Reynolds from Leeds :TU:

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 05 Oct 2010, 21:30
by jessi
michael maguire for me was the best prospect out there, would love to see him training at arnies gym !

can frankie gavin get in touch with him and convince him back please.

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 05:29
by oliverfennell
Mukel wrote:Fola O'Kes interested me when he made his debut, dont know what happened to him, didnt look to have a huge amount of promise but im suprised he gave up as quickly as he did.
Oh yeah, I remember him. He was a '96 Olympian if I'm not mistaken?

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 05:37
by SDHammer
What's happened to british Heavyweight Chris Burton won about 15 without loss got injured, helped Haye or someone spar for a fight and now has disappeared off the boxing radar?

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 05:45
by Kyle.Wilson.86
Tony Salam was looking quite promising untill his recent imprisonment. Shame.

Biggest one of all has to be Edwin Valero...that guy was at the top of the boxing scene...2 weight world chapion...undefeated and all fights won by KO. I honestly could see this guys cleaning up a few divisions. Shame he lost the plot and did what he did. I couldnt believe it when i heard that news.

Darren sutherland. Another one...was a fantastic amatuer...and looked a real threat at the pro ranks. Think he had stopped all of his opponents to begin with. I could have seen this guy becoming a world champ. I was gutted when I found out he took his own life. Apparently though it is being investiagted further to see if it really was suicide as his hands where tied when they found him???

I checked out some of the guys mentioned previously by others...all really good starts and vanished.

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 09:11
by THEBUTCH
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

Lyn Davies

This guy looked a dead cert to win a British title to me, depsite the stoppage loss. Looks as if he took that loss badly and jacked it in. Shame because he was starting to make a name for himself.

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 09:29
by el_grande_mauro_mina
A few scousers - flyweight Dave McNally who was unbeaten but was up there for a title shot and heavyweights Tommy Bannister and Darren Chubbs - I wonder what happened to those three...

And there was a light flyweight/flyweight who may or may not have turned pro called Mike/Mickey Hughes - he was Welsh and I am pretty sure he took on Robbie Regan - but I forget if it was as an amateur in the Welsh ABA finals or as a novice pro...

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 12:12
by Coco
Mark Hughes ABA Light Fly champ, went with Mickey Duff, trained by Enzo Calzaghe, was unbeaten before getting a detached retina in drawing against Harry Woods

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 12:14
by el_grande_mauro_mina
Coco wrote:Mark Hughes ABA Light Fly champ, went with Mickey Duff, trained by Enzo Calzaghe, was unbeaten before getting a detached retina in drawing against Harry Woods
Cheers Marc, I swore he turned pro and then I thought I imagined it - is he still a chef?

Re: Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?

Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 12:25
by Coco
Thats his trade but lost his job and has been unemployed for a year or so, bit down on his luck lost his house etc living in Cardiff now and is helping to run an amateur club. He is pretty much blind in that eye.
Hasn't got a good word to say about the Calzaghe's. He got Enzo little cash jobs singing in restaurants back in those days when Cal snr didn't have two pennies to rub together, but that was soon forgotten when Mark lost his license.
Feels he was unprepared getting chucked into an 8 rounder vs Woods, and feels he was good enough to get title fights at light fly.
Always complained he was ignored in the gym as everything was geared towards Joe.
He also thinks that the local talent were just used as unpaid sparring partners and have been blindly loyal to Enzo, leaving themselves skint while the Cals counted the cash, he accused Enzo of being a terrible tightwad.