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yid14 wrote:Sounds a great fight. The only person who had it for McCracken (on what I've read on this thread) is a first time poster who could be McCrackens mum or Anthony McCracken himself. If that's the case unlucky sport

crusader wrote:Get Green in with another top 10/15ish type of fighter. I think it would be a bad move to go from clearly beating a guy like B.J. Flores to fighting Vea or Cameron. Green showed last night he is a world class CW. There is no need to be fighting guys who are struggling at a much lower level. I know Cameron is ranked number 21 by BoxRec, but I think that is a very inflated rating. He should not have been pushed by McCracken.

dan h wrote:

crusader wrote:Get Green in with another top 10/15ish type of fighter. I think it would be a bad move to go from clearly beating a guy like B.J. Flores to fighting Vea or Cameron. Green showed last night he is a world class CW. There is no need to be fighting guys who are struggling at a much lower level. I know Cameron is ranked number 21 by BoxRec, but I think that is a very inflated rating. He should not have been pushed by McCracken.

Sorry what I meant was get Cameron in with Vea, not Green

I think Green should really try and find out just how good he is by trying to unify CW or win legit titles at LHW again and then retire.

AntonS wrote:

dan h wrote:

crusader wrote:Get Green in with another top 10/15ish type of fighter. I think it would be a bad move to go from clearly beating a guy like B.J. Flores to fighting Vea or Cameron. Green showed last night he is a world class CW. There is no need to be fighting guys who are struggling at a much lower level. I know Cameron is ranked number 21 by BoxRec, but I think that is a very inflated rating. He should not have been pushed by McCracken.

Sorry what I meant was get Cameron in with Vea, not Green

I think Green should really try and find out just how good he is by trying to unify CW or win legit titles at LHW again and then retire.

What's a legit title these days??

dan h wrote:

yid14 wrote:Sounds a great fight. The only person who had it for McCracken (on what I've read on this thread) is a first time poster who could be McCrackens mum or Anthony McCracken himself. If that's the case unlucky sport

Mate I have hundreds of posts??

I watched it with 2 other and we all scored it to Macracken by 2-3rounds. Cameron threw some great body shots but all through the middle rounds he looked tired and was wearing a lot of punches.

Regardless of who people though won I think it is a unanimous opinion that Green should not be wasting time fighting Cameron. Get him in with Vea

crusader wrote:Get Green in with another top 10/15ish type of fighter. I think it would be a bad move to go from clearly beating a guy like B.J. Flores to fighting Vea or Cameron. Green showed last night he is a world class CW. There is no need to be fighting guys who are struggling at a much lower level. I know Cameron is ranked number 21 by BoxRec, but I think that is a very inflated rating. He should not have been pushed by McCracken.

N2 Shape wrote:Houndawg..........i always love these debates with you, however when have i ever claimed any of my fighters are world class??? NONE are until they beat world class opposition. In the meantime Green has made a habit of fighting washed up scrubs in his comeback Briggs lets not forget was a complete joke and made Aussie boxing a laughing stock! Flores I will commend him for as a legit opponent but certainly not WORLD class mate get a grip son, Flores is a good operator and sits as a B level fighter as he has NEVER beaten a top guy yet himself. Flores was actually taking a step up in opposition in fighting Green and I commend him for that even if Green himself was stepping up to a proper Cruiser.

Im not slagging Green off it was a good fight and a good opponent to be in with but if anyone thinks Flores is WORLD class then they are dreaming!

N2 Shape wrote:Flores is a decent operator but WAY below World Class level........hes very much a stay the hell outa trouble fighter and wont take NO risks. A glance at his record would show the following as his best wins.....

Darnell wilson
Epifanio Mendoza
Patrick Nwamu

Hardly inspiring stuff!!

Having said that Green fought well against a much bigger guy, i think the Cameron fight makes the most sense for Green right now, he can cash in again big time with that fight. And after watching last night I think green beats Shane. Shane will at least press forward and look to throw meaningful shots but i think Danny is just to experience and seasonsed for him, Shane looks like he was lost some of his pop, and also looks suspect in the chin department with McCracken stunning him numerous times. His cuts are once again also a worry!

dan h wrote:I dont see how it makes money. Everyne has seen Cameron's last 2 fights on Green cards so they know he is going to get koed in 2rds, no one is going to want t pay for that. I have bought every green fight I can remember and I would no way in hell buy Green v Cameron. I would rather pay to see Macracken fight Green because at least he deserves a pay check.

Cameron should go back up to heavy. Green should fight Tomas Adamek.

BRASH American BJ Flores wants another crack at Danny Green - and will fight on his undercard to get it.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal Flores - who gave Australia's IBO cruiserweight champ his toughest fight since emerging from retirement two years ago - is tipped to be back in Australia next year fighting on a Green Machine Promotions event.

While the outgoing Las Vegan is gunning for a rematch with the West Australian, it's understood contract clauses insist he would have to excel in one or two undercard events before any talk of a second title shot.

"But I'd fight Danny Green again next month," Flores said when cornered at Perth airport yesterday.

"I know Markus Beyer gave him a rematch so, having made so many fans here in Australia, maybe Team Green could do the same with me - but this time at a bigger stadium in Sydney.

"You only had to see Danny after the bout to know what sort of fight I gave him. Check out his eye, his cheek, his jaw. I'm keen to get us fighting again and if, as part of our contract, that means me fighting on one of his undercards, I'd love to do it."

Despite starting as a $5 outsider with bookies, Flores attacked Green all night in a bout that was closer than the judges' scorecards of 116-112, 117-111 and 116-112.

"But it just wasn't enough to win in his home town," Flores shrugged.

"Unfortunately, the close rounds, they all went to Danny. And that's because he's a cagey fighter, a smart fighter and against me he was the busier fighter, even if those punches weren't effective.

"Honestly, people expected him to blow me over but I was never rocked, never saw stars. His trainer [Angelo Hyder] said Danny was going to cut me in half but the punches, they never hurt me."

Asked about his Hollywood-style approach to the fight, the man dubbed El Peligroso added: "Everyone said 'oh, BJ Flores is all talk', said I was just another cocky American.

"But I think people would agree I backed it up because when was the last time you saw Danny Green forced to fight like that? I don't think he's ever been forced to move back like that over 12 rounds.

"Actually, I was disappointed he was moving back the whole time because it felt like I was having to chase down the ferocious puncher.

"It felt like if I didn't come forward I wouldn't have got a fight. He felt a couple of my punches early and didn't want to come forward, so I tried to make the fight."

Flores said a strong overhand right he struck Green with in the fifth almost turned the bout.

"But he's very cagey," Flores said. "I came to his home town, weighed in at 195 pounds [88.5kg], I did everything he asked of me. And despite the fact everyone always talks about his power, I was never rocked, never hurt."

foxdog1923 wrote:Why dont you go and ask Flores FFS...lol

"Honestly, people expected him to blow me over but I was never rocked, never saw stars. His trainer [Angelo Hyder] said Danny was going to cut me in half but the punches, they never hurt me."-B.J Flores

I know B.J got beat, Danny was too good. B.J was in enough exchanges to feel Dannys power but when I was watching the fight it didnt look like Dannys power was really hurting B.J and vice versa. The statement above confirmed my suspiscions that I had during the fight.

N2 Shape wrote:Houndawg..........i always love these debates with you, however when have i ever claimed any of my fighters are world class??? NONE are until they beat world class opposition. In the meantime Green has made a habit of fighting washed up scrubs in his comeback Briggs lets not forget was a complete joke and made Aussie boxing a laughing stock! Flores I will commend him for as a legit opponent but certainly not WORLD class mate get a grip son, Flores is a good operator and sits as a B level fighter as he has NEVER beaten a top guy yet himself. Flores was actually taking a step up in opposition in fighting Green and I commend him for that even if Green himself was stepping up to a proper Cruiser.

Im not slagging Green off it was a good fight and a good opponent to be in with but if anyone thinks Flores is WORLD class then they are dreaming!