Here's my round-by-round analysis.
As for the Young fight, I scored this for Ali both times that I watched it. A lot of people I respect say that this was the decision that Ali CLEARLY didn't deserve. However, I feel that Ali deserved the victory. Since I'm in a very small minority, I did a round by round synopsis of the fight. If you disagree with my scoring, could you point to specific rounds? In any case, the argument that Young "dominated" Ali does not paint an accurate picture of the fight in my opinion.
(This fight was scored on a 5 point system. I assume that knockdowns and standing eight-counts are counted in this system in the same way as in the 10 point system)
Round 1: Clear round for young. Ali almost completely inactive. 5-4 Young.
Round 2. Ali once again very inactive. Young mostly lands pawing jabs, but controls the ring. 10-8 Young.
Round 3: A very difficult round to score. Young is content to land jabs on Ali's gloves. Young's body shots in this round are mostly low and thus are not scoring punches. Difficult to determine ring generalship with so few clean punches landed. Ali lands the only significant punches of the round to close it. A case could be made for an even round or for Young. Perhaps a key round. 14-13 Young.
Round 4: Young easily takes the round on effective body punching. 19-17 Young.
Round 5: Ali able to impose his strength on young and catch him with relatively hard head shots. Round 3 and 5 are the most debatable of the rounds I scored for Ali. 23-22 Young.
Round 6: The first obvious round for Ali. Young's output slows and Ali is able to time his jab for counters. Late in the round, Young throws some of the weakest punches in heavyweight history against Ali's Elbows, grabs the ropes to try to trap Ali within his arms and then melts to the canvas as Ali tries to shove him off. 27-27.
Round 7: Clear round for Ali. Ali is able to initiate exchange and have success. For the first time, Young sticks his head through the ropes and allows Ali to hit him in the body, a "tactic" that will cost him the fight. 32-31 Ali.
Round 8: Young is more aggressive and easily takes the round. 36-36.
Round 9: Midway through the round, Ali attempts to dance, but Young counters over his jab and is very effective. 41-40 Young.
Round 10: Ali again dances and is much more effective. Young lands a crisp right hand midway through, but Ali controls the action and outjabs Young in the center of the ring. 45-45.
Round 11: Clear round for Young. 50-49.
Round 12: A comfortable round for Young until the last 45 seconds, when Ali stages a rally. Young doesn't seem to be hurt, but is not firing back. Just when the round seems to have swung in Ali's favor, Young either falls through the ropes or voluntarily sticks his head through them. In either case, the referee gives him a standing eight count, and Ali gets a 2 point round on my card. 54-53 Ali.
Round 13: Young again falls through the ropes. Why not take a point? Almost immediately, he does it again, obviously on purpose, allowing Ali to hit him to the body as he leans out of the ring with his back turned, like a man leaning out his window to look at the street below. Ali brawls somewhat effectively as Young, for perhaps the first time, looks like the more tired fighter. Ali lands a good right hand at the close of the round to seal it. 59-57 Ali.
Round 14: Effective counterpunching by Young easily gives him the round. 63-62 Ali.
Round 15: Ali begins the round by bum rushing Young and landing two or three power shots. Young retreats and sticks his head through the ropes in a display of cowardice. The ref is nice and doesn't take a point. Young is effective in the middle of the round, but Ali carries the last third with a mixture of brawling and boxing.
My final score: 68-66 for Muhammad Ali.
I think that Ali had nothing left after Manila, and that Shavers, Norton and Young all should have beaten him. But Ali's toughness and their tactical mistakes were bigger reasons for Ali's maintenance of the title than poor judging.
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Dave1armedTua
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You are all a bunch of Ali Shills. Young had a clear victory, according to me and my buddy Jeff, a 42 year old mild retard with bad eyes. I spoke with some famous boxing trainer from Philadelphia, who's name I can't reveal, and he said that the judges were clearly bought off. I tend to agree with this theory, since all the evidence (none) points to my highly intelligent conclusion.
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Sweet Scientist
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No, it's..."halt-witted Ali shills" and "from long time Philadelphia-Detroit boxing trainer" and "I know for a fact 'Blinky' Palermo & Don King influenced the judges"...if you want to be perfectly accurate....Dave1armedTua wrote:You are all a bunch of Ali Shills. Young had a clear victory, according to me and my buddy Jeff, a 42 year old mild retard with bad eyes. I spoke with some famous boxing trainer from Philadelphia, who's name I can't reveal, and he said that the judges were clearly bought off. I tend to agree with this theory, since all the evidence (none) points to my highly intelligent conclusion.
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Sweet Scientist
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