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rob van winkle formally known as vanilla ice was upper class D

eubank's was reported as a mugger & thief.

I heard JMM is from a fairly well off family and is a trained accountant or something.

Shea Neary is a second cousin of the Earl of Wirral

IRLangmaid25 wrote:You also have Calvin Brock the Boxing Banker with an MA in Finance as well who use to manage his own portfolio of investments if my memory serves me correctly.

Yeah, crickey never thought I would say this - but he is missed now. Never good enough for the Klitchsko's, but a good little fighter who could make some good matches for the smaller heavyweight contenders and champions.

King Geedorah wrote:
Many of them. He could knock the fook out of a few words could Edgar, who took the Bronx without lifting a single finger. People thought that a geezer called Edgar who liked to write, and could read, living in the Bronx, well he must be fooking hard so no gawn test.

Eubank's in-ring style is almost exactly like what Edgar would box like if he was like a boxer.

And with that...

Red Death style boxing!

I don't think I've ever heard anything that sounds cooler.

You get the exception to the rule... but to the original poster....

"yes - it helps"

Builds an inner steel a tougher background

Scott Welch and Adrian Dodson seemed quite well-heeled.

stujones wrote:

IRLangmaid25 wrote:You also have Calvin Brock the Boxing Banker with an MA in Finance as well who use to manage his own portfolio of investments if my memory serves me correctly.

Yeah, crickey never thought I would say this - but he is missed now. Never good enough for the Klitchsko's, but a good little fighter who could make some good matches for the smaller heavyweight contenders and champions.

He has not fought since 2007 after dropping a 12 round decision in a 4 man IBF elimination tournament against Eddie Chambers and had to have surgery on a dettached retina if my memory serves me correctly.

Deserter wrote:I think James Hare was from a middle-class background wasn't he?

Yeah i remember seeing a programme about him, he lived in a big house, a very big house in the country, good boxer though, whatever happened to him?

Nightmare Roy wrote:

Deserter wrote:I think James Hare was from a middle-class background wasn't he?

Yeah i remember seeing a programme about him, he lived in a big house, a very big house in the country, good boxer though, whatever happened to him?

I think Hare was working class who happened to live in a big house.The "Lord Of The Manor" stuff was all tounge in cheek.

I dont know for sure but I would assume Julio César Chávez Jr

JamesH wrote:Derek Chisora's family are very wealthy.

Really???

Kilsby wrote:You get the exception to the rule... but to the original poster....

"yes - it helps"

Builds an inner steel a tougher background

Like Marco Antonio Barrera, you mean? The son of a successful maker of film props?

I think anyone appropriately maladjusted can turn out to be a good fighter. MAB's a case in point: a well-off, classically middle-class (in the Weberian sense) kid who went to law school, with (apparently) a savage temper & a vicious streak a mile wide= multiple world titlist.

A mad fvcker's a mad fvcker, in my opinion. Morales grew up dirt poor but I didn't see Barrera give too much ground to him during their three fights.

Datsue wrote:

Kilsby wrote:You get the exception to the rule... but to the original poster....

"yes - it helps"

Builds an inner steel a tougher background

Like Marco Antonio Barrera, you mean? The son of a successful maker of film props?

I think anyone appropriately maladjusted can turn out to be a good fighter. MAB's a case in point: a well-off, classically middle-class (in the Weberian sense) kid who went to law school, with (apparently) a savage temper & a vicious streak a mile wide= multiple world titlist.

A mad fvcker's a mad fvcker, in my opinion. Morales grew up dirt poor but I didn't see Barrera give too much ground to him during their three fights.

I think you are right, funnily enough i can't see these violent heroes excelling in the office.

A quote from Thucydides

Nor ought we to believe that there is much difference between a man and a man, but to think that superiority lies with he who is reared the severest school

NoMas wrote:

JamesH wrote:Derek Chisora's family are very wealthy.

Really???

Very much so.

Chisora comes from a very wealthy landowning family, they own 18 farms around Harare. He grew up up being waited upon by servants and was educated at the fee-paying Prince Edward School.

His parents split and he and is mother came to England 10 years ago, moving to Hampstead Garden Suburb. Check out rightmove for property prices there, its as expensive as you'll find in London.

After some trouble with the police, a probation officer sent him to see Johnny Spencer (Finchley Amateur Boxing Club). The rest, as they say, is history...

Coco wrote:A quote from Thucydides

Nor ought we to believe that there is much difference between a man and a man, but to think that superiority lies with he who is reared the severest school

Here's another:

"The meaning of words had no longer the same relation to things, but was changed by them as they thought proper. Reckless daring was held to be loyal courage; prudent delay was the excuse of a coward; moderation was the disguise of unmanly weakness; to know everything was to do nothing. Frantic energy was the true quality of a man."

Not particularly germane to the discussion at hand, but I've always liked the quote.

mickey1975 wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote:

Deserter wrote:I think James Hare was from a middle-class background wasn't he?

Yeah i remember seeing a programme about him, he lived in a big house, a very big house in the country, good boxer though, whatever happened to him?

I think Hare was working class who happened to live in a big house.The "Lord Of The Manor" stuff was all tounge in cheek.

I'm pretty sure (from memory) that James' dad was a builder and bought a big house that needed a lot of work doing. I'm not sure his upbringing was ultra posh; his dad may have had a few bob but that's that. James Hare was a very capable boxer though, in any case.

Datsue wrote:

Kilsby wrote:You get the exception to the rule... but to the original poster....

"yes - it helps"

Builds an inner steel a tougher background

Like Marco Antonio Barrera, you mean? The son of a successful maker of film props?

I think anyone appropriately maladjusted can turn out to be a good fighter. MAB's a case in point: a well-off, classically middle-class (in the Weberian sense) kid who went to law school, with (apparently) a savage temper & a vicious streak a mile wide= multiple world titlist.

A mad fvcker's a mad fvcker, in my opinion. Morales grew up dirt poor but I didn't see Barrera give too much ground to him during their three fights.

Agreed. I think the reason it is rarer for boxers to come from that sort of background is that rich kids have easier ways to make a living, and also that those from dirt poor backgrounds often have more drive to succeed when the going gets tough, and boxing is about as tough as sports come.

With that soft elequent voice and such a humble compassionate persona surely Bernard Hopkins was born with a silver spoon in his mouth

NoMas wrote:I dont know for sure but I would assume Julio César Chávez Jr

though his old man was broke.

hence all those pathetic comeback attempts.

Andypittcov wrote:With that soft elequent voice and such a humble compassionate persona surely Bernard Hopkins was born with a silver spoon in his mouth

I'm sure I read somewhere that mike Tyson comes from quite an affluent background

The daily sport is such a good read these days

JamesH wrote:

NoMas wrote:

JamesH wrote:Derek Chisora's family are very wealthy.

Really???

Very much so.

Chisora comes from a very wealthy landowning family, they own 18 farms around Harare. He grew up up being waited upon by servants and was educated at the fee-paying Prince Edward School.

His parents split and he and is mother came to England 10 years ago, moving to Hampstead Garden Suburb. Check out rightmove for property prices there, its as expensive as you'll find in London.

After some trouble with the police, a probation officer sent him to see Johnny Spencer (Finchley Amateur Boxing Club). The rest, as they say, is history...

yeah i googled him, didnt know that... cheers for the info

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

NoMas wrote:I dont know for sure but I would assume Julio César Chávez Jr

though his old man was broke.

hence all those pathetic comeback attempts.

ouch low blow :( haha

didnt know chavez sr used to bang salma haylek though, shiiiiit :x what i wouldnt give for 2mins with her 8)