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Re: rocky 4...drago..
Posted: 24 Dec 2010, 02:50
by el_grande_mauro_mina
Where is Union Cane in all this - he was the paper champion! Mac Lee Green who broken his third metacarpal and what about Buddy Shaw - who gained 50 pounds and went to California. Ernie Roman who went to France than fight Apollo Creed.
Apollo was the man - he was over the hill when Rocky took the title off him and then Rocky made 10 title defences - defeating the German heavyweight champion in Paris and Big Yank Ball amongst others...
I would say Clubber Lang was a cross between Sonny Liston (not getting a shot and being avoided because he would be bad for the sport was the reason Cus D'Amato used for Floyd Patterson to avoid Sonny Liston)
Re: rocky 4...drago..
Posted: 24 Dec 2010, 06:28
by thepocketrocket
Always wondered why Rocky never Clubber a rematch!
Re: rocky 4...drago..
Posted: 24 Dec 2010, 07:58
by oliverfennell
thepocketrocket wrote:Always wondered why Rocky never Clubber a rematch!
Same reason Lennox never fought Rahman again.
Re: rocky 4...drago..
Posted: 24 Dec 2010, 08:10
by greenyox3
oliverfennell wrote:In Hollywood fashion, the challenges were presented as more formidable with each sequel, but in boxing terms, Rocky's opponents got easier.
1- Undefeated, prime Apollo
2- Fading Apollo
3- One-dimensional slugger
4- Rank novice
5- Didn't even have a boxing match
1. Yep
2. Granted
3. Unfair - Lang was tearing his way through the heavyweights, and no-one else had found a way to beat him
4. Unfair - Drago probably had about 500 un-verified fights in Russia before facing Creed. Besides which, he was roided-up to the eyeballs
5. Balboa showed his versatility by transferring his badass-ness from the ring to the street
Re: rocky 4...drago..
Posted: 24 Dec 2010, 09:08
by oliverfennell
greenyox3 wrote:oliverfennell wrote:In Hollywood fashion, the challenges were presented as more formidable with each sequel, but in boxing terms, Rocky's opponents got easier.
1- Undefeated, prime Apollo
2- Fading Apollo
3- One-dimensional slugger
4- Rank novice
5- Didn't even have a boxing match
1. Yep
2. Granted
3. Unfair - Lang was tearing his way through the heavyweights, and no-one else had found a way to beat him
4. Unfair - Drago probably had about 500 un-verified fights in Russia before facing Creed. Besides which, he was roided-up to the eyeballs
5. Balboa showed his versatility by transferring his badass-ness from the ring to the street
3. So was Jeff Lacy in the supermiddles, 'til Calzaghe got to him. Lang = overhyped,
4. A lengthy amateur career is by no means transferable to pro success. Look at Audley Harrison and Jorge Luis Gonzalez.
Re: rocky 4...drago..
Posted: 24 Dec 2010, 09:14
by alexpaterson
yiddo14 wrote:Lets hope they are way off with Rocky 6 then.
Don't fancy having a 60 yr old Heavyweight Challenger.
Still hope for Evander yet....
Re: rocky 4...drago..
Posted: 24 Dec 2010, 14:25
by rockyrandall2
This is a great post!...............
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