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cjscott wrote:

kylamy wrote:

ben k wrote:You can never win against your Mrs. They don't fight fair, they use all sorts of illegal tactics to win the fight ( they remember everything you have done wrong for the past 10 years)

Ben, never a truer word spoken, I lost badly sometimes as well, I think they'd call it a Loss KO by 1,

I could never win an argument, she would know what i was thinking next week, most times Ha-ha.

Plus the fact i did plenty wrong as well, and they are like an elephant, "never forget"

Cheers,

Brad

Hey Brad, hows the golf treating ya these days? Seen Soul spar with one of NZs up and comming heavy weights last week he is looking quite fit.Hope all is well on the Gold coast.

Hi Scotty, How are you champ? I hope all's well over there, hey will you be at the fight on March 4? I will be there for the Yannick v McKinnon stoush, I will also be appointing another Aussie Judge for the junket.... errr, I mean Judging Assignment, I'm not sure who to bring over as yet but will work it out soon.

There was a suggestion we both may work the Soul v Shane fight, but i'm not really fussed or concerned, because i think our Kiwi brothers will do the right job, but irrespective of who wins. It is a good fight and one thats a 50/50 fight i feel.

Soulan is #1 OPBF and Shane is #2, so the Mandatory position is on the line here for the right to fight Jameson Bostic, who will also prove a tough fight for the winner. Bostic, at my invitation travelled to Tokyo back in October and dismantled Yuzo Kiyota in one round to grab the Light Heavyweight title, Kiyota is the current OPBF Super Middle 168 pound or 76-2kg .

Kiyota was looking to capture the 175 pound title due to weight concerns at 168Lb, but Jameson who was the only fighter interested in taking the fight went over and did the business, I was pleased because it now brings the focus at this higher level back to NZ and it can only be good for Kiwi boxing which is what my intention was, I would like to see more Kiwi's up there in the two most powerful regionals i am involved with, then i know the competition between our two proud and willing countries will progress and this in turn, can only be good for boxing in the Asia Pacific region.

Mate the Golf has been put on hold for a couple years now, even though i've purchased some great new Calloways, but it's not long till in get some time to get back into it.

I recently just moved into one of the leading Golf Course gated estates here on the coast, and they have some reasonably priced green fees etc for residents, so i have just had the odd bash down the driving range and beleive me, it wasn't pretty, but it's all good healthy fun. I've just gotta get the time because, I work almost every weekend within the sport, whether it be Supervising, Officiating Boxing or Refereeing Muay Thai somewhere which i absolutely love doing.

Anyway champ, sorry for the late reply, I hope to see you in Auckland in March, it's my birthday next day, but i maybe leaving Auckland at 06-30am to head back to get to WA for another show on that day, I'm busy trying to work the schedule to Perth and onwards, but it's proving difficult at this stage.

So if i decide not to go to WA, then we will be staying until late the next day, So you will have to catch-up with us all for my birthday, after-all it's not everyday you turn 20 something for the second time, Ha-ha.

All the best and stay in touch mate.
Regards
Brad

What actually is the purpose of Junket Boys – fight supervisor, judges & refs, given some of the circumstances that I recall in OZ??

1.WBA fight supervisor that couldn't speak nor understand a word of English & most likely would've have a faintest idea of WBA rules
2.WBC judges that had a great time on free piss @ weigh-in
3.PABA supervisor demanding he also judge so he'd be entitled to 2 pay packets

Got a list as long as my arm, but that will do to give a general idea as why my biff with the system.

Da Voice wrote:What actually is the purpose of Junket Boys – fight supervisor, judges & refs, given some of the circumstances that I recall in OZ??

1.WBA fight supervisor that couldn't speak nor understand a word of English & most likely would've have a faintest idea of WBA rules
2.WBC judges that had a great time on free piss @ weigh-in
3.PABA supervisor demanding he also judge so he'd be entitled to 2 pay packets

Got a list as long as my arm, but that will do to give a general idea as why my biff with the system.

The points you make are valid, Anton, but you have left it a bit late to suddenly develop a conscience.

Were you not part of the "system", albeit a minor cog in a much bigger money making machine?

You didn't seem too concerned about these "problems" until you fell out with your old pals and they kicked you out of the trough.

Da Voice wrote:What actually is the purpose of Junket Boys – fight supervisor, judges & refs, given some of the circumstances that I recall in OZ??

1.WBA fight supervisor that couldn't speak nor understand a word of English & most likely would've have a faintest idea of WBA rules
2.WBC judges that had a great time on free piss @ weigh-in
3.PABA supervisor demanding he also judge so he'd be entitled to 2 pay packets

Got a list as long as my arm, but that will do to give a general idea as why my biff with the system.

Da Voice,

There are proper avenues of channelling this complains and concerns. Contact the 3 various sanctioning bodies and file these issues with them with facts to support it. Got a couple of my boys fighting for the PABA title and we don't care about where is the fight, who is refreeing or judging or what the judges and officials are up to. All i want my boys to do is go out there and make the weight, fight well, abide by the boxing rules, respect his opponent and try to capture the titles by winning convincingly.

Complaining about the officials with the right authorities will be a good way to voice your concern mate. I wish you well and i pray that you will find it deep down in your heart the will to forgive those who or may have wronged or ill treat you. You're will be a great bloke only if you rise above those negativity effects mate.

Good luck Da Voice and please always look at the sunny side of life.

Collins2000 wrote:

Da Voice wrote:What actually is the purpose of Junket Boys – fight supervisor, judges & refs, given some of the circumstances that I recall in OZ??

1.WBA fight supervisor that couldn't speak nor understand a word of English & most likely would've have a faintest idea of WBA rules
2.WBC judges that had a great time on free piss @ weigh-in
3.PABA supervisor demanding he also judge so he'd be entitled to 2 pay packets

Got a list as long as my arm, but that will do to give a general idea as why my biff with the system.

The points you make are valid, Anton, but you have left it a bit late to suddenly develop a conscience.

Were you not part of the "system", albeit a minor cog in a much bigger money making machine?

You didn't seem too concerned about these "problems" until you fell out with your old pals and they kicked you out of the trough.

Blood bath and Collins,

I had not seen the two posts by this dropkick until now, because i have him on ignore and it's terrific, but i want you or anyone else in here that has ever been to a weigh-in, and especially one for a World title, to tell me how many times have you seen alcohol or any other similar drinks being served at the weigh-in?? that should tell you exactly how much this imbecile knows, and should answer that one for you.

The person he's referring to who supposdely cannot speak English is Mr. Yangsup Shim, President of the PABA and also a Director of the WBA, and again, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but he speaks english very very well, it is just that Sadsak has never ever met him, and i would dare say he has never even seen what he looks like, because he has only been here in Qld just once or twice, and Sadsak is only being fed second hand gossip from one of his know it all mates, infact his only mate, you also must remember that it's been years and years since Smelly Sadsak has even attended a fight show in person, he is too scared he may meet someone who he's slagged and they will want a peice of him, that's the real truth boys.

Mr. Shim is a pretty nice old bloke and does not say a word until spoken to, he is genuinely a very quiet and shy man, who does not like the limelight, he is very quiet and unassuming, he was also the Supervisor for Mundine v Green and has been supervising WBA fights all round the world for many years, this is just another case of this idiot Sevsek criticising anything and everything i am involved in, it does not bother me, but he will never allow the truth to stand in the way of a good story that will make him supposedly look good, well in his eyes at least.

The PABA Supervisor he is referring to is no longer employed by the PABA. Not that i wanted to, but I actually took his place as a result of his efforts to square up with our Promoter who he disliked and the promoter disliked him, then our illustrious man of everthing and saviour of boxing, Alan Moore wanted this position and did everything he could to get it as well, he rang the PABA office in Seoul many times and then he even he called me up once and because he was what he thought, going to Supervise a fight involving Danny Green and Jason DeLisle for the PABA title, which i was selected to referee, this was a WA Commission appointment in conjunction with the PABA.

Alan Moore told me he will appoint himself as the Referee as well, because he had to have at least 3 days off work and as the fight was in Perth, he asked to Supervise and Referee so that he would replenish the wages lost while away for those three days.

Now personally, I beleive that is a fair request and if he is going to do a job and have his balls on the line, then he is entitled to be compensated for it, because he will cop it either way. Sadly Moore was never good enough to Referee a fight of this calibre and the Promoter's when told, said absolutely not, No way will the cop this bloke, he did not go to Perth.

So most of what Sadsak Sevsek is saying is is wrong and totally inaccurate as normal, i thought most would have realised by now this grubby bloke does not tell the truth and will always paint a sad picture of everything and everyone who is doing something in the sport that he only dreams of doing.

Regards
Brad Vocale

Da Voice there you go Kylammy has spoken...have got any facts to support your claim?

bloodbath70 wrote:Da Voice there you go Kylammy has spoken...have got any facts to support your claim?

Bloodbath, you are no doubt a trainer, have you ever attended a WBC Weigh-in? if you have, you will know there is a very strict and correct procedure at the weigh-in and then follows the Rules meeting between the fighters, their team and also the Referee/Supervisor and the officials.

It is vitally important we all are reading from the same page and we have to get it right first time, we don't get a second chance and we don't have the luxury of a video tape replay, so the WBC makes sure the Supervisor who conducts the rules Meeting and weigh, all is above board and he will leave nothing to chance after-all, it is the fighter's career path and future we are officating on.

So why would someone want to get on the drink and disgrace themselves, I have been to just a few WBC and other organisations weigh-in/rules meetings in my time, just a couple, ha-ha. I have never seen alcohol served at one of them, not even here in Australia for domestic fights have i seen it served, very rarely, and i mean rarely, will i see a Promoter who will have snacks like sandwiches and/or party pies etc served after the event.

Sadsaks mate in Brisbane is well known to like the free meal given as courtesy to everyone by Angelo Dicarlo after his weigh-ins.

But that's it, when it comes to grog, the WBC have a very firm and strict rule, No alcohol can be taken prior to the event, and i have never ever seen it, in all the WBC events i have been to.

But you know what, Smelly Sadsak would not know that, he was just throwing off at the mouth again to make himself look good, when infact he knows nothing of the procedure for these events, but is happy to bad mouth oprganisations who do the right thing by the fighter's etc and see the officials also do the correct thing.

Regards
Brad Vocale

Thank you Kylamy,

very interested indeed. We'll Da Voice if you haven't got any facts to support your claim buddy then please let it go and lets move on to something better. Lets venture out to other boxing topics and give opinions on upcoming fights. Forget about the past as you cannot change it but look towards 2011 and what's in store for us in boxing.

Life is too good and too short and far better than your misfortunes and boxing grudges. Be happy and smile as it will uplift your weary heart and spirit.

Try to be positive and be kind to your fellow humans.

Collins2000 wrote:

Da Voice wrote:What actually is the purpose of Junket Boys – fight supervisor, judges & refs, given some of the circumstances that I recall in OZ??

1.WBA fight supervisor that couldn't speak nor understand a word of English & most likely would've have a faintest idea of WBA rules
2.WBC judges that had a great time on free piss @ weigh-in
3.PABA supervisor demanding he also judge so he'd be entitled to 2 pay packets

Got a list as long as my arm, but that will do to give a general idea as why my biff with the system.

The points you make are valid, Anton, but you have left it a bit late to suddenly develop a conscience.

Were you not part of the "system", albeit a minor cog in a much bigger money making machine?

You didn't seem too concerned about these "problems" until you fell out with your old pals and they kicked you out of the trough.

I was only a minor player in the game. Never had intention of being anything else & that was 10 years ago. Except for bad-mouthing jerk Vocale, I hadn't had a fall out with any official.

then our illustrious man of everthing and saviour of boxing, Alan Moore wanted this position and did everything he could to get it as well, he rang the PABA office in Seoul many times

What the hell has Alan got to do with my comment?? What he thought, did or tried to do is his business.
Vocale's overall post(s) is nothing short of pinning tickets on himself

FYI, Alan Moore, on formation of ANBF Ltd in 1988, was 1 of 4 who subscribed to the Memorandum of Association & was initially Vice President & had then served (off & on) as President (Chairman of Directors) 'til last year.
His fight record more than adds to his credibility in fight game http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
He surely doesn't deserve bagging by anyone, including illustrious Mr Vocale.

Festival Hall houseboy's record http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer suggests some, if not all, Draws were most likely Losses

Victoria's judge/ref Malcolm Bulner was also 1 of 4 subscribers, whom illustrious Mr Vocale also bad-mouths at every opportunity - Often referring to him as useless Curry muncher.....until of course he comes face to face, then it's; " Hiya matey, good to see ya, how ya been, how's the family blah blah blah"

Hence the reason I was never really his close friend....just an acquaintance in boxing game.

If you have a close look/read at his posts, you'll find fair bit of self opinionated shite in the mix

Illustrious Mr Vocale measures his success in the game with stamps in his passport & saved used air tickets.
I would've swam & entered Indonesia illegally to get the opportunity supervising the following:- http://boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=604013

The bloke has no ethics. Self importance & pay packet is his game.

I will also be appointing another Aussie Judge for the junket.... errr, I mean Judging Assignment, I'm not sure who to bring over as yet but will work it out soon.

How about Victorian judge Aneeka Williams, so you can have another go to get into her pants as you did in Perth?

Da Voice wrote:

I will also be appointing another Aussie Judge for the junket.... errr, I mean Judging Assignment, I'm not sure who to bring over as yet but will work it out soon.

How about Victorian judge Aneeka Williams, so you can have another go to get into her pants as you did in Perth?

Anton,

Mate you're now getting too ridiculous!!! what is this little kids playing teet for tat? We don't want to hear rubbish talks and kiddy stuff. very childish and immature!! Grow up man and get a life!!!

Tell him to grow up & come down to planet earth (if at all possible). I'm sure he's capable of discrediting (if he must) my comments & myself without abuse, threats, name calling etc

Im locking this thread, Anton bringing Aneeka Williams up is out of order. especially as i think she is a married woman. Imagine her Hubby comes onto here and reads that rubbish.