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Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 14:16
by T.M.K
Glyn Leach wrote:
chinny wrote:
Lenny wrote:Well if Adam Smith reads this board and Haye fought Harrison because it's what the public wanted, then lets all give our backing to Adamek for his next fight. All in favour say I!
Aparrently Adamek has all but signed to fight Wlad according to K Duva
Arreola then? Not great, but more worthy and interesting than Mormeck, surely.

This just makes all that "explanation" on the Victoria Derbyshire show the other week look like rubbish: he quite clearly stated that if it wasn't Klitschko then it had to be Chagaev!

:shame:

I really, really want to believe David Haye but it's getting harder and harder to justify some of the arguments. He should have just accepted the July 2nd fight with Wlad and let Wlad fight Chisora first. Put a back-up plan into place with 2 heavies scheduled to fight on the undercard with an agreement that if Klit pulls out for any notice, one of them will immediately get the title shot instead.

Bloody Mormeck?

(sorry, Arreola is a poor "other choice" in my opinion too).


Colin "T.M.K" Harris

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 15:07
by bennie
Err, make that Martin Rogan, or even Pat Brogan. :lol:

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 15:42
by The Main Event Show
We had a poll on the live show earlier today as to whether the fans thought Haye - Mormeck II was something they wanted to see.... it ended up at about 25-1 against the fight!!! Not a fight I would like to see either! As said earlier what happened to cleaning up the division!

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 15:46
by whiskey
They are genuinely looking at this fight. It's not a wind-up.

The proof of this, was when someone I know went to Booth at the Vegas during check-in and said "Adam, what's all this talk about Haye fightin Audley ??"

Booth categorically said that "there is absolutely NO WAY that David will fight Audley Harrison. I absolutely assure you. Trust me."

It was less than 2 weeks after that conversation that they officially unveiled the Haye vs Harrision fight with a press conference.

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 15:47
by whiskey
The Main Event Show wrote:We had a poll on the live show earlier today as to whether the fans thought Haye - Mormeck II was something they wanted to see.... it ended up at about 25-1 against the fight!!! Not a fight I would like to see either! As said earlier what happened to cleaning up the division!
To 1 ?

Who was that solitary person who was for it ? Jean Marc himself ? :lol:

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 15:49
by The Main Event Show
Haha thats what I thought! it must have been a wind-up!

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 15:50
by Old bones Ian
Have you seen the WBA top 15? there is not one easy saleable fight there.

1 Chagzev
2 Boytsov
3 Povetkin
4 Ustinov
5 Rahman
6 Valuev
7 Dimitrenko
8 Mormeck
9 Meehan
10 Adamek
11 Helenius
12 Ibragimov
13 Bakhtov
14 Carlos Gomez
15 Arreola

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 16:43
by fightfaninfrance
It's getting boring now, Chagaev or Adamek are the only decent options.

Anything else is the end of Haye. Even if he gets some klit by the end of the year it'll be so long since he's had a decent scrap he'll forget how to!

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 17:28
by Final round
Rematch Valuev

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 17:32
by Dioufy
Final round wrote:Rematch Valuev
I heard he was retiring - something to do with weird-arse bones, believe it or not.

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 17:44
by Final round
Dioufy wrote:
Final round wrote:Rematch Valuev
I heard he was retiring - something to do with weird-arse bones, believe it or not.

:-? That's a shame it sounds nasty I read he has bone and joint problems. His weight must be a massive strain on his joints.

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 18:13
by Max Molyneux
bennie wrote:Why all the hate? Chagaev is a walking virus so Booth has to look at the rankings and Mormeck is right in the mix, a man who dropped Haye. Sure, you get the feeling that Booth wants to give the French bull a nice payday because Mormeck really 'made' Haye, but Mormeck is still a million times better than Arreola, who wouldn't even beat Martin Brogan.
Can't they inoculate guys who fight a guy who has hepatitis? They did with Wlad when he fought him or does the BBBC have different rules to the German commision?

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE55I2ML20090619

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 19:25
by bfchunk
Haye might as well flush what is left of his reputation down the toilet by fighting RJJ or Tarver.

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 19:42
by yiddo14
I can't see his handlers risking it but why not give Boytsov a call? Unbeaten, young and relatively exciting. Haye would switch him off too.

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 24 Jan 2011, 19:44
by Finn
what a joke - just go and call out someone decent. Vitali, Povetkin, adamek, boytsov!! Im a haye fan but this shit sucks - its like chisora said - "why doesnt haye just fight vitali"?


sodding mormeck?!!!

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 25 Jan 2011, 03:29
by oliverfennell
Old bones Ian wrote:Have you seen the WBA top 15? there is not one easy saleable fight there.

1 Chagzev
2 Boytsov
3 Povetkin
4 Ustinov
5 Rahman
6 Valuev
7 Dimitrenko
8 Mormeck
9 Meehan
10 Adamek
11 Helenius
12 Ibragimov
13 Bakhtov
14 Carlos Gomez
15 Arreola
Putting on my promoter's hat, you could "sell" the following:

Chagaev - mandatory contender
Ustinov - another "David vs Goliath"
Rahman - the man who beat Lennox
Valuev - unfinished business after close/controversial first fight
Adamek - all-action fighter independently considered the top contender
Arreola - marketable if Haye fought him in the US/puncher's chance

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 25 Jan 2011, 05:25
by stujones
Being serious, but I think Holyfield is more worthy of a shot. What has Mormeck done at Heavyweight. He looked done at Cruiserweight 3 years ago. Going on reports Mormeck was very very lucky to win his last fight.

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 25 Jan 2011, 05:54
by doctorboxing
Dioufy wrote:
I heard he was retiring - something to do with weird-arse bones, believe it or not.
I always thought he had a weird shaped head but I hadn't even noticed his arse to be honest.

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 25 Jan 2011, 05:59
by DavidPayne
Glyn Leach wrote:
Lenny wrote:Good idea, the club shall now be called "The Adamek/Arreola Club"
Double A Promotions? Or has that name been used?
Arreola is at least a Double D.

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 25 Jan 2011, 06:16
by DavidPayne
El Telioni.

You're right of course, but if we're going for quantity over quality, couldn't Haye have just fought 4 times a year and dusted off the whole top 10.....if anyone can put one together. I hear Oxy Moron is #6.

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 25 Jan 2011, 06:39
by DavidPayne
King Geedorah wrote:
DavidPayne wrote:El Telioni.

You're right of course, but if we're going for quantity over quality, couldn't Haye have just fought 4 times a year and dusted off the whole top 10.....if anyone can put one together. I hear Oxy Moron is #6.
Haye fighting four times in one year, are you off your effing nut? This ain't 2005. Are you trying to drive the poor lad towards the brink of exhaustion. Sound post, sound suggestion, but you've gone away from here and become some kind of hippy. Only mind bending drugs can explain the suggestion that a heavyweight champion fights x 4 in a year and against his main contenders. It is a mad, mad notion. Shame on you.
I do apologise, its my thyroids.

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 25 Jan 2011, 07:17
by Dioufy
Enzo Macc should move up to heavy, blame his mutiple KO losses on weight-making, even though he's a tiny crusier, beat Julious Long, call out Haye - he'll probably get a go too, then blame his dramatic KO loss on making a "mistake". You peeps may well laugh, but Haye's heavyweight career isn't the best so far.

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 25 Jan 2011, 07:25
by Glyn Leach
It does seem a little odd, even by WBA standards, that they should have as their mandatory challenger a fighter who, correctly or incorrectly, is viewed as such a health risk that many commissions won't sanction him. Was it Switzerland or Monte Carlo or something that blew out Chagaev-Valuev at the last minute due to the former's hepatitis problems? Now Britain seems to be against him fighting here because of the Hep B. Yet Germany were happy enough for him to come and fight Wlad. Under these strange circumstances, it would be pretty unfair of the WBA to strip Haye for not fighting a mandatory contender who is treated like he has the plague.

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 25 Jan 2011, 07:26
by Dioufy
I don't see why Haye wouldn't go to Germany.

Re: Haye vs mormeck 2?!

Posted: 25 Jan 2011, 07:38
by Glyn Leach
Dioufy wrote:I don't see why Haye wouldn't go to Germany.
Would have its plus points, for sure — introduce him to the Klitschko market, build those fights (if they're ever going to happen), maybe put a bit of pressure on the brothers to get the fights made.

But what sort of crowd would Haye draw compared to the fight taking place in Britain? How much extra would it cost Sky to do an outside broadcast from Germany? How much would it affect the PPV buy if Haye wasn't on hand in Britain for press duties in the immediate run up to the fight?

Seems to me the main arguments against the fight taking place in Germany are financial. Depends how much Haye wants to hang onto his belt, I suppose.