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Re: Gabriel Ruelas
Posted: 04 Feb 2011, 06:44
by jBacca
Caught the later showing of Ringside and have to say that the Ruelas interview was moving.
In my eyes a lot of boxers have this hardened aura about them, so it was touching to see Ruelas open up like that
An instant fan.
Re: Gabriel Ruelas
Posted: 04 Feb 2011, 08:59
by Glyn Leach
Didn't get to see it last night, look forward to watching the recording when I get home. Him and Gatti was just silly, a mad fight — and I wasn't in Gatti's corner that night either Ed.
Re: Gabriel Ruelas
Posted: 04 Feb 2011, 09:15
by black panther
jBacca wrote:Caught the later showing of Ringside and have to say that the Ruelas interview was moving.
In my eyes a lot of boxers have this hardened aura about them, so it was touching to see Ruelas open up like that
An instant fan.
x2
Great job Ed. I've been a fan of Gabriel ever since I read "Dark Trade". I also thought it was very revealing when Duke McKenzie said he used to be in tears right before a fight but his brother would convince him to fight. When you see fighters in the ring they always seem so mentally strong and determined but what I liked so much about this episode is that it gave us a look into what goes on behind the ropes. We don't see the trips to hospital afterwards or angst in the dressing room beforehand. Once again, really good episode.
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Re: Gabriel Ruelas
Posted: 04 Feb 2011, 09:29
by ed robinson
Hey Black Panther, I'm sure I can remember Duke breaking down in tears in his post fight interview after winning the World title and blubbering 'I thought he was going to knock me out!'. I've been in the dressing room with someone like David Haye before he goes out to fight, amateur and pro, he just can't wait! He's like an excited young kid before Christmas. Personally I can't imagine that mentality. It can be a crippling thing mental pressure, not the worrying about getting hurt or even getting beat, just of letting everyone down and not performing. People tell me Carl Froch was very nervous pre bout as an amateur - fair play to him for the way he's learnt how to control it. You'd never tell now.
Re: Gabriel Ruelas
Posted: 04 Feb 2011, 10:24
by THEBUTCH
Haven't seen the Ringside show yet and I'm looking forward to piece on Gabe. A superb fighter of his era and hard as nails.
What Gabe must have gone through after the Garcia fight must have been horrendous, but the comments about him not being the same afterwards, I hope, don't imply that he lost to Gatti becuase of Garcia fight.
Ruelas turned put in one of the best stands I've ever seen in boxing against Gatti. Whilst I was rooting for Gabe, Gatti took everything thrown at him and still found an amazing punch to lay Ruelas flat out. The fight was just breathtaking and incredible.

Re: Gabriel Ruelas
Posted: 04 Feb 2011, 10:38
by orbtastic
It was on the undercard of a Lewis fight if I remember correctly? It was an amazing fight, one of those fights where the hairs on the back of your neck stand up whilst watching (at least it did live). Great fight, packed with drama and action and a great finish.
Re: Gabriel Ruelas
Posted: 04 Feb 2011, 10:41
by yiddle
ed robinson wrote:There is a Gabby Ruelas interview on Ringside tonight. The reason that I am flagging it up is because I think he's one of the most amazing people I've ever met. Gabriel and his brother Rafael were both World champions, born just over 9 months apart! They grew up very poor in the mountains of Mexico before joining family in the States. After school each day the brothers made money knocking on doors to sell sweets, which is the reason that they learnt English. One of the doors they knocked on was Joe Goosen who had a gym in his garage. Gabby convinced Joe to train the two kids, even though he only worked with pro's. Rafael could have been a lawyer, he sorted out all the forms and paperwork they needed to become American citizens.
They turned pro with Top Rank and fought side by side coming through. Gabby lost his unbeaten record when he damaged his elbow horribly in a fight with Jeff Franklin. He thought he'd never be able to box again and still can't extend the arm anything close to fully straight - effectively shortening the reach of his right hand.
In 1993 with a record of 33-1 he pushed Azumah Nelson to a majority decision in front of 130,000 fans assembled to watch Julio Caesar Chavez in a Mexican bullring. The following year he beat Jesse James Leija, who had just gone on to dethrone Nelson, joining his brother Rafael as a World champion.
Gabriel's second defence ended in tragedy when Jimmy Garcia collapsed after their fight and passed away. On the same bill Rafael was blown away by Oscar De La Hoya. Gabby never really recovered, losing a return with Nelson and then engaging in a self destructive brawl with Arturo Gatti on the Boardwalk.
I'm lucky enough to have met most of my heroes and few have disappointed me. Way back when, it was Arturo I was cheering on, not Gabby. The Ruelas brothers were never among my favourite fighters, until I actually met Gabriel.
saw it last night great interview he seems such a nice bloke
Re: Gabriel Ruelas
Posted: 04 Feb 2011, 10:42
by lefty
ed robinson wrote:Hey Black Panther, I'm sure I can remember Duke breaking down in tears in his post fight interview after winning the World title and blubbering 'I thought he was going to knock me out!'. I've been in the dressing room with someone like David Haye before he goes out to fight, amateur and pro, he just can't wait! He's like an excited young kid before Christmas. Personally I can't imagine that mentality. It can be a crippling thing mental pressure, not the worrying about getting hurt or even getting beat, just of letting everyone down and not performing. People tell me Carl Froch was very nervous pre bout as an amateur - fair play to him for the way he's learnt how to control it. You'd never tell now.
Froch looked very nervous before the taylor fight though.
Re: Gabriel Ruelas
Posted: 06 Feb 2011, 15:06
by Matt W
Excellent show and the interviews with Booth and Ruelas in particular were top drawer. Keep up the great work!
Carl has admitted to lacking confidence as an amateur and credits Rob McCracken with instilling it in him. It's some job he's done!
Re: Gabriel Ruelas
Posted: 06 Feb 2011, 15:26
by Arnie
Ruelas was great in that interview and what a fighter he was.

Re: Gabriel Ruelas
Posted: 06 Feb 2011, 15:45
by Old bones Ian
Was looking at his record and then i remembered watching his fight against Jeff Franklin , when his elbow popped out. It was one of those injuries that makes you cringe, his arm was pointing in the wrong direction. He did well to recover from that, cost him 14 months of his career.
Also a fight i remember is when he defended his title against Freddie Liberatore, he really tore into him. I thought we were going to see a competitive match , but Liberatore was just so beaten up in those 2 rounds that the corner had no other chioce but to pull him out.
Re: Gabriel Ruelas
Posted: 07 Feb 2011, 09:35
by chinny
Terrific interview Ed, good stuff. Gabe really opened up.
Are you shooting interviews in a different style now? I found the constant chopping of camera angles and close ups kind of mirrored the unsettling subject matter? is this intentional? It is a very effective way of cutting out the interviewer! I think they used a similar technique in the James Tobin Tyson 'movie'. I suppose it more effectively recreates a real life conversation, where one wouldn't be sitting there the whole time staring at someone!
I am loving Ringside at the moment. When the return of the show was first mooted I feared it would be one long plug - but the balance is excellent. Well done
Re: Gabriel Ruelas
Posted: 07 Feb 2011, 12:29
by ed robinson
Cheers Chinny, actually we were just lucky enough to have three camera's on that shoot, which is a rare luxury. We had a static on him, static on me and a third with a bit of movement on Gabriel. If you can edit something so you don't need reverse questions then that's how we tend to do it, unless they really add something. We just caught him on a day that he wanted to open up, I only asked him about four questions in a half hour interview!
Re: Gabriel Ruelas
Posted: 07 Feb 2011, 12:34
by Scottrf
It was a good interview, but the camera movement was awful and offputting. A few different fixed camera positions is fine but someone with the shakes zooming on random parts of his face is a pointless attempt at making the shots more interesting.
Re: Gabriel Ruelas
Posted: 07 Feb 2011, 15:02
by stevek3lly
Hey Ed,
Finally got round to watching Thursday's episode last night. It was a great piece on Ruelas and he came across as an amazing guy. I wasn't familiar with him or his brother before the show as slightly before my time, but I will definately be watching the Gatti at some point, that looked an amazing fight.
Cheers.
Re: Gabriel Ruelas
Posted: 08 Feb 2011, 02:59
by Final round
Excellent interview what an intresting story they've had through the sport.
Ashamed to admit I've only seen the Gatti fight thoug
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Re: Gabriel Ruelas
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 05:19
by bennie
Former world title challenger Andy Ganigan is still in a bad way after he was assaulted in his native Hawaii a year ago. The huge-punching southpaw of the 1970s and 1980s was attacked after leaving a bar at midnight last March. Nobody has been charged, although a giant 21-year-old by the name of Matthew Kupa was initially arrested. "It's really hard," said Kia Ganigan, Andy's eldest son, who believes the assailant wanted to make a name for himself by beating up a 57-year-old ex-fighter. This sort of despicable action has happened many, many times with other fighters but, according to police, Kupa punched Ganigan after the two had squared up, and Ganigan fell and struck his head, suffering brain damage.
Ganigan lived and died by the sword as a ferocious fighter. He made
The Ring magazine's 100 greatest punchers of all time by flattening Sean O'Grady in two rounds in 1981 in the States, when O'Grady was 76-2. Ganigan dropped O'Grady three times to secure a shot at the late, great Alexis Arguello for the WBC lightweight title in Las Vegas and felled the iron-jawed Nicaraguan in the first round before a murderous body shot took all the fight out of him in round five, although Ganigan was dangerous right up to the finish.
He had one more fight before retiring with 30 knockouts in 34 wins. Andy once strung together 15 'clean' kayoes.
The Ring placed him above Ingemar Johansson in their all-time rankings.

Re: Gabriel Ruelas
Posted: 28 Feb 2011, 08:53
by bennie
bennie wrote:Greg Goossen took the Ruelas brothers to an amateur show in Ventura, California, in the 1980s and approached one of the white suits and asked, "Where's the fighters' dressing room?"
"You mean the boxers' dressing room, they are boxers, not fighters," said the official, arrogantly.
Goossen broke into a grin, "Well I've got two FIGHTERS here and if your boxers can't fight, they are in big trouble!" Both Ruelas boys won by stoppage.
Greg Goossen has died at the age of 65. RIP, Greg.