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Yeah you too mate, have a good one..

Bennie, I want to know your top two pal, I'm intrigued...the Kid? Winstone? Turpin? Wilde? Watt? Buchanan?

I respect them all, absolutely, and admit I don't have the depth of knowledge you do with some of the old timers.

But I know who they are and what they achieved.

Believe me

Ta lads, over and out

I love watching him but I wouldn't let him drive me home

I loved him when I was a kid. I first saw him on a Tyson undercard, I think Tyson-Bruno 2. He didn't put his guard up once, threw three punches and put the other geezer down for a count each time. In retrospect the other guy was probably totally over matched, but it was one of the most thrilling things I'd ever seen. The audacity of it. I've always loved boxers who could showboat and pull it off ever since. I know a lot of people hate it, see it as disrespectful, but it does it for me. I think that's why I was such a big Calzaghe fan: he used to drop his hands all the time too and get away with it. We'd be shouting "get your hands up! F*cks sake!" but he came through. It was exciting, you know? Those type of fighters are entertainers.

Actually, do you think that's kind of part of a UK style now? If you look at most of our biggest stars over the past few years, Naz, Calzaghe, Haye, Froch, they all keep their hands low. All these British kids getting into boxing must be emulating these guys? I wish I could pull it off...

Naz will always be one of my favorite boxers.

Captain Hook wrote:Try top two, with Lennox Lewis

Thats far too high in my opinion, for both of them. Naz was good at beating people slightly past their prime. he fought one great fighter close to his prime and was soundly beaten.

Take the hype away and Naz was a terrific little fighter with a lot of talent. Possibly in UK top 10 or 15.

My British Top Ten

1. Ted (Kid) Lewis.

2. Joe Calzaghe.

3. Bob Fitzsimmons

4. Naseem Hamed

5. Jimmy WIlde

6. Lennox Lewis

7. Benny Lynch

8. Freddie Welsh

9. Jim Driscoll

10. Randy Turpin

McCannW14 wrote:

Captain Hook wrote:Try top two, with Lennox Lewis

Take the hype away and Naz was a terrific little fighter with a lot of talent. Possibly in UK top 10 or 15.

I'm sorry mate but that's just total rubbish.

I met him in a department store where I was working.......

He was sat on a rocking chair going backwards and forwards, looking slightly miserable and a little cocky. He asked me what I did in the shop, so I said I was part of a sales team and he kind of looked through me with those eyes of his, not blinking at all. It was before the calvo fight and he had been laid up with a back injury. I asked him how his back was and he explained that he had been sleeping on a board for a while to get it straightened out. I asked when he was fighting next and he said " may the 18th and can't i wait" and he said it just like he was talking to larry merchant, only it was me. He eventually left and he struck me as a slightly intimidating fella, which a chip on his shoulder and definately arrogant. I wouldnt have described him as a nice person who was easy to talk to, because he didn't go out of his way to make you feel at ease chatting with him.

DavidPayne wrote:A lot like Rhyll before the UN turned up.

I was watching a film a while ago where 2 young gentlemen were smoking a "Jamaican Woodbine"

The dialogue went something like

"Where did you get this Skunk, man, Colombia?"

"umm, no, Rhyll, behind the Sun Centre"

"wow"

Its been bugging me for ages as to what film it was

If anyone knows what film that is from, please send a self-addressed envelope to

"24 Hour Party People" Competition
14 Ingleside Mental Health Institution
Swindon
UK

don't like him, never have. Dare say he can be a nice bloke when he wants to be. Not everybody acts like that just because they become successful but it turns some people into right tw*ts.

I wanted Kelley to "smoke his boots" but weirdly, when Hamed went down twice, I was in bed listening to 5 Live, a 14 or 15 year old boy, I started rooting for Naz............it occurs to me that was probably just a bit of nationalistic pride.

Like I say, he can probably be nice when it suits him but what sticks out for me is the total lack of even professional respect he gave to Steve Robinson....general "A can't be beat" cockiness.......smashing virtually every bone in a strangers body by speeding over a brow in the wrong lane, and then coming out of prison to a limosine and an entourage and music with a big fcking grin. Oh yeah....and get hammered by Marco Barrera and turning his back on the game when his abilities eroded enough to the point he couldn't win easy any more. Plum. Bye bye

NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
I wanted Kelley to "smoke his boots" but weirdly, when Hamed went down twice, I was in bed listening to 5 Live, with a 14 or 15 year old boy, I started rooting for Naz............it occurs to me that was probably just a bit of nationalistic pride.

Oh yeah, "nationalistic pride" was it?


You people make me sick.

Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:

NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
I wanted Kelley to "smoke his boots" but weirdly, when Hamed went down twice, I was in bed listening to 5 Live, with a 14 or 15 year old boy, I started rooting for Naz............it occurs to me that was probably just a bit of nationalistic pride.

You people make me sick.

As I've already explained, I am not a "Geordie". There is a difference.

Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:

NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
I wanted Kelley to "smoke his boots" but weirdly, when Hamed went down twice, I was in bed listening to 5 Live, with a 14 or 15 year old boy, I started rooting for Naz............it occurs to me that was probably just a bit of nationalistic pride.

Oh yeah, "nationalistic pride" was it?


You people make me sick.

....ahhhh very good

Best british fighter ever, and yep i think an all time great. On another night, in a different fight, it would not have been an impossibility for him to beat Barrera, just my opinion. Either way, it doesn't matter - most exciting fighter there's been.

NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:

Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:

NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
I wanted Kelley to "smoke his boots" but weirdly, when Hamed went down twice, I was in bed listening to 5 Live, with a 14 or 15 year old boy, I started rooting for Naz............it occurs to me that was probably just a bit of nationalistic pride.

You people make me sick.

As I've already explained, I am not a "Geordie". There is a difference.

Are you a Mackem?

sg1985 wrote:

Captain Hook wrote:Anyway..........back to my soup....

How was the soup?

Better than this thread mate. Naz only top 15 in Britain?

Do me a favour! Notice Bennie never came back with his top two......can imagine they were fighting before 1970. Anyways.....back to work.

Captain Hook wrote:

sg1985 wrote:

Captain Hook wrote:Anyway..........back to my soup....

How was the soup?

Better than this thread mate. Naz only top 15 in Britain?

Do me a favour! Notice Bennie never came back with his top two......can imagine they were fighting before 1970. Anyways.....back to work.

I don't debate with plonkers who grew up yesterday.

Very mature Bennie, take it you don't have a top two then. Pathetic.

PS It seems to be a trait with the 'respected' posters lately....

"I can't debate a point so I'll throw an insult instead"

Shame...you'd think I'd put Andy Lee in the top two, not Naseem Hamed.

Captain Hook wrote:Very mature Bennie, take it you don't have a top two then. Pathetic.

It's been a long time on here since I had to talk to such a effing dimwit.
Now eff off and look up some papers and get an education you tosser.

I seem to be having one of those weeks Scott, I may have to disappear for a few days!

I notice Bennie has also called me a "pillock" on the US threads for having Lewis and Naz up there.

Maybe in 50 years I'll get really uptight and argue Jason Booth was the best British fighter of all time and not someone from that era

I apologise for the insults, Captain. That was beneath me.

I can only attribute the recent outbreak of bizarre rucks between respected posters to a hitherto unknown phenomenon that I shall term the 'ESB Virus'. Let's hope it's not contagious

No problem Bennie, fully respect your opinions....usually :)

Not seen enough of the old timers (Turpin and co) to make a judgement, but seen plenty of Buchanan, Watt, McGuigan, Minter, Stracey et al, and just feel Lewis in particular has to be up there.

I'll let you off this time pal, and again, condolences for your loss.

Deserter wrote:I can only attribute the recent outbreak of bizarre rucks between respected posters to a hitherto unknown phenomenon that I shall term the 'ESB Virus'. Let's hope it's not contagious

Ha ha true mate, must be catching!

Bennie's a good guy though, he's seen more than I have and if I were him I'd also be fighting the corner of a Ted Lewis or Randy Turpin over a young, arrogant arse like Naseem Hamed!

I'm certain a Pep or Sanchez would have torn him a new one, of that there's no doubt...

Eff me, Caption, you seem to be fornicating everyone off lately. You been shagging posters' wives or something? The Boxrec John Terry.