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Re: Tom Dallas

Posted: 22 Jun 2012, 14:55
by crusader
Dallas hasn't done anything to suggest that he can beat decent fighters; he even struggled with the very mediocre and overweight novice Tom Little.

I think Dallas is shot and will crack when anyone with power fights him aggressively. Towers is limited, but he's shown that he can win at a higher level and he has the tools—power, size, and relative durability—to overcome Dallas. Conversely, Dallas has only size; he seems to lack confidence, enthusiasm, defense, and wilts mentally and physically when hit.

Thus, it's most probable in my opinion that Towers bullies Dallas, hurts him and/or forces him into a shell, and then stops him.

Re: Tom Dallas

Posted: 22 Jun 2012, 18:32
by davie
Dallas looked a good prospect, certainly a fighter id have fancied to do better than he has in the prizefighter semi and the skelton beating
but sometimes 1 bad defeat can change a career
he wasn't good enough to beat price, but to take on someone with a right hand like that at short notice was, in hindsight, a poor decision
that knockout has left dallas looking fragile, low on confidence and frankly done.

I hate to see it but i dont see where he goes from here as he doesnt look like his heart is in it

Re: Tom Dallas

Posted: 23 Jun 2012, 04:37
by LeedsLad
I think if the opponent has a bit of something about him and throws punches he completely shuts down.

He was fed too many stiffs on the way up, and then stepped up about a thousand levels against Page, where he was soundly beaten.

I'd like him to retire, he'll get badly hurt if he carries on.

Re: Tom Dallas

Posted: 23 Jun 2012, 19:15
by THEBUTCH
Dallas is struggling terribly. They have to go back to the drawing board and come up with a new master plan.

His jab is awful, he can barely cope when being pushed back and his confidence is shot to pieces.

He needs a promoter who is prepared to rebuild him, almost from scratch and i can't see too many willing to do that.

At the moment he looks destined for life as an opponent but may still be capable of winning a southern area title, but his head goes down so quickly when he ships a solid shot. Shame because his quiet , unassuming attitude is quite refreshing.

Re: Tom Dallas

Posted: 24 Jun 2012, 09:21
by oliverfennell
Dallas needs a good few months off and have nothing to do with boxing in that time, and then see how he feels. If he wants to fight on then he'll need 5-8 hand-picked fights to rebuild his confidence. I know part of the problem is that he hadn't fought much in the way of decent opposition on the way up, but it's a different concern now.

As bad as the defeats were, they can be reconciled with. Price obviously was a league above. Skelton on good form can make life difficult for anyone. Hamer may yet turn out to be world class. But the performance vs Little, albeit a winning one, was a real worry for me, and if his confidence was waning before then the Hamer result was the absolute worst thing that could have happened.

Re: Tom Dallas

Posted: 25 Jun 2012, 08:37
by Deano s
oliverfennell wrote:Dallas needs a good few months off and have nothing to do with boxing in that time, and then see how he feels. If he wants to fight on then he'll need 5-8 hand-picked fights to rebuild his confidence. I know part of the problem is that he hadn't fought much in the way of decent opposition on the way up, but it's a different concern now.

As bad as the defeats were, they can be reconciled with. Price obviously was a league above. Skelton on good form can make life difficult for anyone. Hamer may yet turn out to be world class. But the performance vs Little, albeit a winning one, was a real worry for me, and if his confidence was waning before then the Hamer result was the absolute worst thing that could have happened.
:TU: spot on mate he is too easy to hit id like to see him go back to the drawing board with at least 5 learning fights 3 x 6 rounders and 2 x 8 rounders and then guage if he has improved and see what comes up. the danger is for him to be used as cannon fodder for european prospects in his next few fights and that is how journeymen are created he has the atributes they just need to be channeled with the right training, he needs to get out there sparring with the best

Re: Tom Dallas

Posted: 25 Jun 2012, 11:19
by yiddo14
He won't be back.

Re: Tom Dallas

Posted: 25 Jun 2012, 11:36
by Deano s
yiddo14 wrote:He won't be back.
when you say he won't be back do you mean fighting again or back at a decent level?

Re: Tom Dallas

Posted: 25 Jun 2012, 11:44
by oliverfennell
Deano s wrote:
yiddo14 wrote:He won't be back.
when you say he won't be back do you mean fighting again or back at a decent level?
I didn't expect to see him back, and especially in a competitive event, so soon after the Skelton mauling, so you may be surprised.

Re: Tom Dallas

Posted: 25 Jun 2012, 11:50
by Deano s
oliverfennell wrote:
Deano s wrote:
yiddo14 wrote:He won't be back.
when you say he won't be back do you mean fighting again or back at a decent level?
I didn't expect to see him back, and especially in a competitive event, so soon after the Skelton mauling, so you may be surprised.
I know for a fact he will be back I just hope he changes everything if you put in what you always have,you will get the same results as you always did he needs a new trainer and a new mind set

Re: Tom Dallas

Posted: 25 Jun 2012, 11:51
by casual85
This isn't meant as criticism, but didn't Dallas as much as say that his main aim was to make as much money from boxing as possible - no harm in that - and that's why he took the Price fight at such short notice. If that's the case it perhaps wasn't that surprising to see him in prizefighter

Re: Tom Dallas

Posted: 26 Jun 2012, 17:13
by Finn
He needs to works on his fundamentals - his posture is all wrong, his head movement and footwork are non existent, he would probably benefit from a different defensive style and he is over reliant on power which is very good to be fair. If he wants it bad enough and can get the right trainer im pretty sure he could get a lot better he's only 27; if he wants to carry on he should go back to the drawing board, he has time in his career to do so.

Re: Tom Dallas

Posted: 26 Jun 2012, 17:58
by Bricks
the classy way he fired combos and his lean tall physqiue and power (granted this was all at a very low level) made me see something in him. Hes lost to guys of note in todays HW division. Id like to see him regroup but his career decisions have been abysmal