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Re: Lloyd Honeyghan: Reflecting on the 'Ragamuffin Man' Pt1

Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 13:10
by orbtastic
btw after much searching, I've found the Moochie interview. I'll get it scanned in next week.

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan: Reflecting on the 'Ragamuffin Man' Pt1

Posted: 01 Mar 2011, 07:38
by Ezzard
mugabi wrote:
Ezzard wrote:Great stuff Terry, big thanks!

Agree with comments on the opponents. Blocker was a top contender whereas Hatcher and Bumphus had seen better days at 140. Those wins and the manner of them did flatter to a large degree. The win over Blocker might not have looked pretty but it was a very good victory.

Honeyghan buoyed by remarks by Hagler and Tyson seemed to fall in love with his punching power. This led to a suicidal strategy against Starling. I remember when Molinares KO’d Starling…Lloyd was doing some commentary/analysis work on TV and was saying how Starling looked “shot”. He didn’t look that way to me and it seemed as if Honeyghan wasn’t taking the threat seriously enough.

The fight with Breland (who Lloyd would have beaten on his day) and the crowd’s reaction is one of my worst memories from following boxing.


Mittee was a top boxer who many, including me, thought would best Honeyghan. Lots of domestic rivalries back then on BBC and ITV. We’d walk to school discussing Honmeyghan-Mittee-Laing; McGuigan-Cowdell; Bruno-Bugner; Sibson-Kaylor-Christie-Graham; Pyatt-Rodney; McKenzie-McAuley... Used to watch Saturday afternoon boxing with my Nan… Would lvoe to go back in iem for one of those saturday afternoon shows...Just for a coupe of hours...

Curry looked great but the US media were in love with him back then. They wanted someone to replace Sugar Ray and they didn’t want it to be Marvin. Roberto was fat. Tommy would not be forgiven for losing to Marvin. There are many now on forums who won’t accept Honeyghan’s victory.

I was playing football with mates over the park during that time in your life when you’re too old to be at home but too young to get served in pubs. A mate came over and said he knew the result from the radio. We all said don’t tell us, don’t tell us… He whispered to one mate who wasn’t going to able to watch. Mate’s jaw dropped “No f**king way!” he shouted… We all knew then…

Anyway, big thanks for the article and the thread. Made my day.
yes ezzard, the ko magazine in question in fact all of them of that time (late 85- early 87) are full of talk of a curry v hagler superfight... Curry was undoubtedly a fantastic fighter but hagler cmon he was a formidable fighter from another age and time (philly mid 70s) and a total throwback......while Curry was supposed to be a new sugar ray leonard albeit a totally different fighter.and if curry wasnt the new srl in the same issue michael olajide was being lined up as the new srl. The interview olajide does in the magazine is full of talk of how he would beat hagler using the same template srl did a month or so later.

As a 10 year old honeyghan caught my imagination like no other fighter. I was taking up boxing and my dad and me watched all his fights.

Great thread and article by the ts and all the posters here who genuinelly shed new light on a very enigmatic and somewhat mysterious figure in honeyghan despite his ubiquitousness in pimp regalia at fight shows!
KO loved Curry. He was a great talent but they couldn't wait to see the back of Hagler.

Leonard-Curry at 147 would have been a great fight.

I remember when The Ring gave a joint fighter fo the year to Hagler and Curry - it seemed outrageous at the time. All the best to Don but Marvin was way ahead.

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan: Reflecting on the 'Ragamuffin Man' Pt1

Posted: 01 Mar 2011, 07:42
by DavidPayne
You deserve a bigger audience for this work Telstar.

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan: Reflecting on the 'Ragamuffin Man' Pt1

Posted: 01 Mar 2011, 08:47
by DavidPayne
King Geedorah wrote:
DavidPayne wrote:You deserve a bigger audience for this work Telstar.
Cheers mate but we’re getting hefty hit rates so I’m pretty happy. A Recent John Murray interview hit five figures within one hour. Probably the Khan impact but these old timer ones do decent numbers and attract more emails than news articles for one reason or another. Strange but true.
As Young Kenny would say "fair play".