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Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 13:11
by Chris W 1982
WestEndRiot wrote:Horse wrote:Chris W 1982 wrote:What can Sky or FW do at three day notice.
It's an unfortunate incident that is no one's fault. How about upgrading Olubawimo/McDermott to a CW title fight?????
Yes, making McDermott vs Olubamiwo for the Commonwealth title would help make this televised event far more acceptable.
Is that sarcasm? It's always hard to tell with you
Anyway, upgrading this to the commonwealth title would be an absolute joke, and one of the biggest problems we've got in modern boxing, putting a shiny new label on something and claiming it's something it isn't to sell it to the public.
Weren't sure whether it was sarcasm myself.
I'm approaching this obstacle with only three days to go. What can you seriously expect Sky/FW to do with such short notice? The bill is yet to be cancelled so at this moment in time, one has to assume that there will be some sort of action occurring at the York Hall on Saturday night.
It's not ideal that the original card is falling apart and I offer my sympathies to fans who expected to see Bellew/McKenzie or Gavin/Cook. Olubawimo v McDermott looks the likely headliner pending a replacement for Cook so it was my thinking that TV bosses might want to put a better shine on a 50-50 heavyweight fight.
If that deserves sarcastic backlashes then I'll be better prepared next time I post.
Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 13:16
by jBacca
Chris W 1982 wrote:WestEndRiot wrote:Horse wrote:Yes, making McDermott vs Olubamiwo for the Commonwealth title would help make this televised event far more acceptable.
Is that sarcasm? It's always hard to tell with you
Anyway, upgrading this to the commonwealth title would be an absolute joke, and one of the biggest problems we've got in modern boxing, putting a shiny new label on something and claiming it's something it isn't to sell it to the public.
Weren't sure whether it was sarcasm myself.
I'm approaching this obstacle with only three days to go. What can you seriously expect Sky/FW to do with such short notice? The bill is yet to be cancelled so at this moment in time, one has to assume that there will be some sort of action occurring at the York Hall on Saturday night.
It's not ideal that the original card is falling apart and I offer my sympathies to fans who expected to see Bellew/McKenzie or Gavin/Cook. Olubawimo v McDermott looks the likely headliner pending a replacement for Cook so it was my thinking that TV bosses might want to put a better shine on a 50-50 heavyweight fight.
If that deserves sarcastic backlashes then I'll be better prepared next time I post.
Horse is a robot. I don't think robots know such a trait.
Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 13:23
by Horse
WestEndRiot wrote:Horse wrote:Yes, making McDermott vs Olubamiwo for the Commonwealth title would help make this televised event far more acceptable.
Is that sarcasm? It's always hard to tell with you
Anyway, upgrading this to the commonwealth title would be an absolute joke, and one of the biggest problems we've got in modern boxing, putting a shiny new label on something and claiming it's something it isn't to sell it to the public.
It was genuine.
A Commonwealth title fight is over 12 rounds, whereas a Southern Area title fight is over 10. The Commonwealth title is also a lot more respected as a title than a Southern Area title.
Getting Chisora to drop his Commonwealth title to help save a farcical situation for Warren is a bit cynical, but it wouldn't be the worst example of belt dropping for similar reasons in recent years.
Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 13:24
by Counter-puncher
can you be sarcastic accidentally?
Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 13:38
by Horse
Counter-puncher wrote:can you be sarcastic accidentally?
I am not sure.
Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 13:40
by jessi
frank warrens to blame for this, if he had put gavin in with a top 10 opponent originally none of this last minute stuff would of happened, he still hasent got an opponent for jamie cox ! mitchell out of murray fight too, i dont trust warren one bit anymore.
Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 13:41
by WestEndRiot
Not having a pop at you Chris, and for what it's worth i think Larry and McDermott is potentially a cracking fight, as a fan of both guys i was looking forward to this one more than either of the previous headliners.
I just hate when promoters put these belts on the line to sell a fight as something it's not, we've seen it a million times with these obscure Africans that come out of nowhere for a Commonwealth fight. But i guess it is their job and i'm sure the thought has crossed warrens mind to make it seem more attractive to the casual viewer.
Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 14:09
by hurlock
nigel wright???
Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 14:21
by Andy
jessi wrote:frank warrens to blame for this, if he had put gavin in with a top 10 opponent originally none of this last minute stuff would of happened, he still hasent got an opponent for jamie cox ! mitchell out of murray fight too, i dont trust warren one bit anymore.
Jamie Cox is off the bill following the loss of his father.
Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 14:22
by Scottrf
mexican roadsweeper wrote:Jamie Coxx is off the bill following the loss of his father.
jessi wrote:frank warrens to blame for this, if he had put gavin in with a top 10 opponent originally none of this last minute stuff would of happened, he still hasent got an opponent for jamie cox ! mitchell out of murray fight too, i dont trust warren one bit anymore.
There's no need to use that to make someone look bad, he obviously didn't know.
Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 14:31
by jessi
Scottrf wrote:mexican roadsweeper wrote:Jamie Coxx is off the bill following the loss of his father.
jessi wrote:frank warrens to blame for this, if he had put gavin in with a top 10 opponent originally none of this last minute stuff would of happened, he still hasent got an opponent for jamie cox ! mitchell out of murray fight too, i dont trust warren one bit anymore.
There's no need to use that to make someone look bad, he obviously didn't know.
no i dident know that about jamie cox father and my thoughts are with him and his family.
Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 14:36
by dreamtime
So is Frankie going to be fighting or not on Saturday? Anyone know yet?
Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 14:38
by palooka
He'll be boxing Michael Lomax all being well; a solid, tidy boxing welterweight.
Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 14:40
by jessi
but the frankie gavin situation is not right, warren only stepped up opponents since bellews injury, it proves frank believes his way past these opponents, but what about vinny mitchell ? and the news about jamie cox was terrible but he was still on boxrec as opponent tba only 2 days ago, he died 2 weeks ago, his name should of been taken off the bill then, but in general warrens fighters are to fight tba till the last minute, its just unprofessional.
i really hope the lomax fight comes off, it has to, larry v mccdermot is great but there has to be two good fights.
Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 14:45
by johnnygreaves
fornicate me, if this shows off it will be my 4th fight this year to go tits up. I'm brassic, I'll seriously box Gavin meself! I'd jump into a bucket of tits & come out suckin me thumb at the mo
Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 14:47
by jessi
johnnygreaves wrote:eff me, if this shows off it will be my 4th fight this year to go tits up. I'm brassic, I'll seriously box Gavin meself! I'd jump into a bucket of tits & come out suckin me thumb at the mo

Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 14:52
by palooka
It can only get better Johnny

Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 14:55
by johnnygreaves
Well it can't get no worse si !
Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 14:57
by lefty
johnnygreaves wrote:Well it can't get no worse si !
Ahh the joys of being a pro boxer

Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 14:58
by Scottrf
johnnygreaves wrote:Well it can't get no worse si !
Don't tempt fate!
Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 15:17
by dreamtime
simon fox wrote:He'll be boxing Michael Lomax all being well; a solid, tidy boxing welterweight.
Thanks. I hope it's on - really looking forward to my first visit to the York Hall especially to watch Frankie.

Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 15:20
by iwz678
dreamtime wrote:simon fox wrote:He'll be boxing Michael Lomax all being well; a solid, tidy boxing welterweight.
Thanks. I hope it's on - really looking forward to my first visit to the York Hall especially to watch Frankie.

so lomax v purdy is off? money must have been a lot better then
Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 15:53
by Tommy Gunn13
iwz678 wrote:dreamtime wrote:simon fox wrote:He'll be boxing Michael Lomax all being well; a solid, tidy boxing welterweight.
Thanks. I hope it's on - really looking forward to my first visit to the York Hall especially to watch Frankie.

so lomax v purdy is off? money must have been a lot better then
Purdy is injured,its on another thread..
Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 16:37
by Old bones Ian
This isn't good, if Frankie doesn't get a fight this month, that will mean he has had 6 rounds of pro boxing in 10 months!!
Re: Gavin v Cook off
Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 17:51
by danfoster
Doesn't Lomax v Gavin have all the hallmarks of a horrendous clash of styles?
Anyway it will be good to measure Gavin's performance against that of Kell Brook - Kell demoralised Lomax with his speed, accuracy and power and the ref did Lomax a favour in round three and called a halt. Be interesting to see how Gavin gets on ...