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oliverfennell wrote:Name: Tom Collins

Age: 55

Town: Leeds

Record: 26-22-2 (19)

Status: European light-heavyweight champion, 1987-1990
British light-heavyweight champion, 1987-1989
British light-heavyweight champion, 1982-1983
Central Area light-heavyweight champion, 1980

WBC light-heavyweight title challenger, 1989
WBO light-heavyweight title challenger, 1991
European light-heavyweight title challenger, 1988
British light-heavyweight title challenger, 1984 x 2
WBF cruiserweight title challenger, 1993

Best Wins: w pts 15 Dennis Andries, ko 4 Trevor Cattouse, ko 3 Yawe Davis, ko 2 Alex Blanchard, ko 9 Mark Kaylor, tko 2 Tony Wilson, ko 9 Eric Nicoletta

Significant Losses: l pts 8, l ko 6, l pts 12, l pts 12 Dennis Andries, l pts 10 Leslie Stewart, l pts 8 Chisanda Mutti, l pts 8 Ralf Rocchigiani, l pts 8 Alex Blanchard, l tko 2 Jeff Harding, l tko 6 Leeonzer Barber, l tko 8 Henry Maske, l tko 1 Johnny Nelson

Best fight: First title loss to Andries? KO win over Kaylor?

Strengths: Raw power, excitement, determination, experience.

Weaknesses: The archetypal vulnerable puncher, also liable to be outboxed at the higher level.

Video Link: will look later

Memorable for: Many, many upsets. Unpredictability. The perennial chance of a knockout win. A journeyman who grafted his way to two world title shots. Possibly the last British boxer to engage in a five-fight rivalry (could be wrong but nothing else springs to mind). And a piece of negative legacy - was involved in the first WBF (in fact, first non-big 4) title fight in Britain, which opened the floodgates...

Jeff Thomas wrote:Might bomb- might be full of win- who cares. Name fighters who time seems to have forgot but deserve a bit of kudos!!!

Name: Dean Pithie
Age: 38
Town: Coventry
Record: 25-5-2 (10KO's)

Status: Former Commonwealth Super Feather Champion, former WBO/WBC Intercontinental Champion

Best Wins:W Pts 12 Mzonke Fana, W Rsf 9 Paul Griffin, W Pts 12 Alex Moon, W Rsf 11 Stefy Bull

Significant Losses: L Pts 12 Michael Gomez, L KO 8 Gary Thornhill, L KO 6 Afif Djelti

Best fight: Prob the win over Matabola (rsf6)

Strengths: Nice compact boxing style, left hook, combination punching, hand speed

Weaknesses: Little fragile at top level, stopped a couple of times with body shots

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W78FC02tUSc (bit of Pithie Sparring - all I could find)

King Geedorah wrote:I’m not one to go for the obvious but I’ll make an exception for this thread.

Richard ‘The Secret’ Williams. Former two-time Commonwealth, IBO and WBF boss. Dropped a points decision early in his career but regrouped. Shot to prominence when he battered Shannan Taylor. There were rumours that Williams would get the nod to fight ODH as Oscar was dabbling with the idea of fighting in the UK (or at least said he was) but the ‘Golden Boy’ wanted Williams to boil down to featherweight, sign a three rematch clause and devote the rest of his life to the ‘Golden One’.

Williams dabbled in a ‘help the aged’ style food delivery job. Enjoyed playing his Playstation and was on his way to big things when Paul Samuels roused himself from his dogmatic slumbers and opened up a huge cut in their first meeting. Boxrec was so moved by his fight that they’ve added a note to the technical draw result, ‘Samuels was in the ascendancy at the time of the stoppage’ – strange given that they’re just supposed to give the bare result on the record pages and offer the option of clicking a link if we want opinion on the fight itself.

However, I digress. Williams won the rematch and was on his way to big things. Step in Sergio Martinez, we didn’t know him then, we don’t really know him now but, blimey, he weren’t half hot, mum.

Williams came in 2006. His work during this period reminded me of Vernon Forrest’s work after he came back. Some nice boxing and the odd quality finishing blow. Richard had a London derby against Howard Eastman for the British title. DG and I argued over this one, a lot, but it turned us into friends for life as we both liked/loved both fighters. We PM’d one another to confirm this, but I did want Williams to win.

It was a quality little fight, Richard was too small and Howard closed the show. Williams has been MIA ever since.

He finished with a 21-4-1 (17) record, he was, probably still is, 5’ 9’’ and he was an exceptionally decent boxer.

vagabundo55 wrote:Greg Haugen was English right? Valiant guy... mistake saying Chavez fought Taxi Cab drivers from Tijuana.

bennie wrote:

oliverfennell wrote:Name: Tom Collins

Age: 55

Town: Leeds

Record: 26-22-2 (19)

Status: European light-heavyweight champion, 1987-1990
British light-heavyweight champion, 1987-1989
British light-heavyweight champion, 1982-1983
Central Area light-heavyweight champion, 1980

WBC light-heavyweight title challenger, 1989
WBO light-heavyweight title challenger, 1991
European light-heavyweight title challenger, 1988
British light-heavyweight title challenger, 1984 x 2
WBF cruiserweight title challenger, 1993

Best Wins: w pts 15 Dennis Andries, ko 4 Trevor Cattouse, ko 3 Yawe Davis, ko 2 Alex Blanchard, ko 9 Mark Kaylor, tko 2 Tony Wilson, ko 9 Eric Nicoletta

Significant Losses: l pts 8, l ko 6, l pts 12, l pts 12 Dennis Andries, l pts 10 Leslie Stewart, l pts 8 Chisanda Mutti, l pts 8 Ralf Rocchigiani, l pts 8 Alex Blanchard, l tko 2 Jeff Harding, l tko 6 Leeonzer Barber, l tko 8 Henry Maske, l tko 1 Johnny Nelson

Best fight: First title loss to Andries? KO win over Kaylor?

Strengths: Raw power, excitement, determination, experience.

Weaknesses: The archetypal vulnerable puncher, also liable to be outboxed at the higher level.

Video Link: will look later

Memorable for: Many, many upsets. Unpredictability. The perennial chance of a knockout win. A journeyman who grafted his way to two world title shots. Possibly the last British boxer to engage in a five-fight rivalry (could be wrong but nothing else springs to mind). And a piece of negative legacy - was involved in the first WBF (in fact, first non-big 4) title fight in Britain, which opened the floodgates...

His fight with John Moody in 1987 is, in my opinion, one of the greatest domestic fights ever.

black panther wrote:Name: Chris Saunders
Age: 43
Town: Barnsley
Record: 23-23-1 (10KO's)

Status: Former British Welterweight Champion

Best Wins:W KO4 Kevin Lueshing, W KO2 Jose Varela, W PTS 12 Del Bryan

Significant Losses: L KO3 Billy Schwer, L KO 1 Billy Schwer, L TKO 4 Jason Matthews, L TKO3 Kevin Lueshing, L TKO4 Derek Roche, L TKO5 Michael Jennings

Best fight: Prob the win over future world title challenger Kevin Lueshing (WTKO4) who famously floored Tito Trinidad.

Strengths: Southpaw, hit harder than record suggests.

Weaknesses: Prone to cuts,questionable defence, needed a better manager (matched very tough from day one).

Notes: A guy who was "much better than his record" got some great wins like Lueshing and former european champ Varela which showed his ability. Ven at the end of his career managed to floor the very decent Michael Jennings before being stopped on cuts.

Links:

Record: http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

Lueshing rematch Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBi3R3o5eNY