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Re: Boxing News

Posted: 01 Mar 2011, 07:39
by Counter-puncher
^^^ wow, good post :TU:

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 01 Mar 2011, 08:42
by chinny
great post Deserter!

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 01 Mar 2011, 09:21
by Deserter
Thanks guys. The only caveat I'd add though is that I've been back in Dubai for two years now, so my circ estimates aren't based on the latest figures. The only one I'm definite about in terms of accuracy is Fighters Only, as I found that figure out when I was back at Christmas.

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 01 Mar 2011, 21:06
by dbflex
Wrists wrote:For me its as good as ever.

Some of the changes are excellent, and they now have a young (Dennen looks about 15 :lol: ) team of writers like Flexen, Christie alongside a good editor alongside the excellent Dan Herbert who compliment each other very well.

I like it.

In fact with BM as well our publications blow the likes of the Ring and KO out of the water.

Keep up the good work.

PS. Flexen could do with a haircut

:box:
Are u offering?

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 01 Mar 2011, 21:10
by dbflex
bengulnaci1 wrote:I like Tris and his style.

I do agree that Claude, although on occasion he used to stand his ground, in general, used to backdown when a certain promoter used to throw his toys out of his pram.

I get the impression Tris will not bow so easily.

The Woodhall and Calzaghe piece is a bit bland, but that's do with maybe the questions or possibly that both guys are a little introverted.

Teddy Atlas and his 'calls' are always amusing to read, as he makes claims then, when they are wrong, he tells us the following week how he 'knew' within 5 secs why things were going to go the way they did.

PS Danny Flexen, whilst a good reporter and writer, just what was he thinking when he picked Mayweather Jnr to beat Hearns??? His argument was not a particularly convincing one, to be honest.
Someone had to argue that side of the debate and as the biggest Mayweather advocate in the office that thankless task fell to me. I had a much better argument but it was three times the length which would fit on half a page unfortunately. Honest guv, I swear.

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 01 Mar 2011, 21:11
by dbflex
And I'll happily take credit for Donaire, as it was indeed superb, although Tris wrote it, not me. See what you think of the Fury piece on Thursday.

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 01 Mar 2011, 23:44
by Ben_London
One thing I never understood is why someone has to have done something to have an opinion. It's like sometimes you hear old football pros saying "you've never played the game, so you don't know" bla bla.

It's like saying you can't comment on politics as you've never been a politician...

Or whatever, you can't comment on someone's acting ability as you've never been an actor.

I find it's just usually a poor excuse from someone without a good argument.

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 02 Mar 2011, 03:05
by m1kee50
Ben_London wrote:One thing I never understood is why someone has to have done something to have an opinion. It's like sometimes you hear old football pros saying "you've never played the game, so you don't know" bla bla.

It's like saying you can't comment on politics as you've never been a politician...

Or whatever, you can't comment on someone's acting ability as you've never been an actor.

I find it's just usually a poor excuse from someone without a good argument.
Thankfully there isnt TOO much of that on here. Mainly the people who use the argument haven't actually done anything either. Crab Bucket and all that.

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 02 Mar 2011, 03:17
by dbflex
MatthewS wrote:
Ben_London wrote:One thing I never understood is why someone has to have done something to have an opinion. It's like sometimes you hear old football pros saying "you've never played the game, so you don't know" bla bla.

It's like saying you can't comment on politics as you've never been a politician...

Or whatever, you can't comment on someone's acting ability as you've never been an actor.

I find it's just usually a poor excuse from someone without a good argument.
Thankfully there isnt TOO much of that on here. Mainly the people who use the argument haven't actually done anything either. Crab Bucket and all that.
And just for the record 50 per cent of BN have had amateur contests

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 02 Mar 2011, 10:08
by dbf
Was that Nick Bond I saw helping out at ringside at the Fitzroy show at Earlsfield on Saturday? If so, good man!!

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 02 Mar 2011, 16:53
by NazNaci1
Also saw a great peice by Tris Dixon, sparring Lenord Pierre. I thought Lenord might progress into something but never happened and he hasn't fought since Pavlik beat him in 2006.

Guess he retired.

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 02 Mar 2011, 23:34
by dbflex
dbf wrote:Was that Nick Bond I saw helping out at ringside at the Fitzroy show at Earlsfield on Saturday? If so, good man!!
Yes, and he is.

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 03 Mar 2011, 09:10
by chinny
Excellent Fury piece Danny, hats off.

Brave of you to keep his views on 'a womans place' in and stunning that the interview took place on the day his old man went down.

By the way, the terrified photo shows you've already had that soldier haircut.

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 03 Mar 2011, 09:50
by Wrists
Quality piece Danny - really good.

Class pic of you on that cart thingameebob.

Good mag keeps getting better

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 03 Mar 2011, 12:01
by dbf
dbflex wrote:
dbf wrote:Was that Nick Bond I saw helping out at ringside at the Fitzroy show at Earlsfield on Saturday? If so, good man!!
Yes, and he is.
Good stuff. Get him on a ABA judges course!

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 03 Mar 2011, 12:31
by Chris W 1982
Nick's a top man who has a vast knowledge of the amateur game. Only met him a couple of times but when we shared stories at the GB championhips in November, you can see just how much the vest game means to him.

Nice to see him giving back to the unpaid code.

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 03 Mar 2011, 13:18
by Ulysses
Chris W 1982 wrote:Nick's a top man who has a vast knowledge of the amateur game. Only met him a couple of times but when we shared stories at the GB championhips in November, you can see just how much the vest game means to him.

Nice to see him giving back to the unpaid code.
Well said. I've also met him a few times. He's just one man trying to make a difference. :TU:

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 03 Mar 2011, 14:02
by alexpaterson
I really like it, I think it's a great read!

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 03 Mar 2011, 20:49
by dbflex
Ulysses wrote:
Chris W 1982 wrote:Nick's a top man who has a vast knowledge of the amateur game. Only met him a couple of times but when we shared stories at the GB championhips in November, you can see just how much the vest game means to him.

Nice to see him giving back to the unpaid code.
Well said. I've also met him a few times. He's just one man trying to make a difference. :TU:
I always knew you were ur own biggest fan!

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 03 Mar 2011, 21:30
by reggaereggae
the truth wrote:Anyone else think its went downhill since claude left? i personally dont like the way they praise fighters one fight then slag them the next. how many times have these writers stepped in the ring? i think they should get some respect for people doing a hard job.
Visually, the layout, the graphics, the photos and so on; it has really improved. It is still a must-buy for the serious fan.

But on the negative side, the writing has gone down awfully. Tris DIxon's writing is dreadful, cliche laden, uninspiring dross. I quite like the new approch in terms of 'guest columnist' and the pie chart...not everything works but it's good to try.

I Like the 60 second interview though some of the questions are bland.

But as a writer he is poor. I believe he 'boxed'. Not sure what kind of fights..and his opening editorial about how he 'toured' the US boxing gyms before realising he was a better writer than fighter was egotistical and risible. Like he was some kind of travelling warrior gloriously toiling in the US gyms. What nonsense. As he wrote If he thinks he was a better fighter than writer, he must have been a truly dreadful fighter as his writings is, at best pedestrian. I've seen him on a you tube video and he can barely hit the pads properly.

He come across quite well on TV but he sounds and acts almost exactly like claude used to - which is fine, claude came accross well... but it's very odd.
He should go to writing school - I'm serious. He needs to learn to put some decent prose together.

And what was that Flexen article about Mathew and Ricky Hatton about??? He spends half the article talking about himslef and his brother and imagining various possible scenarios....WTF is that about??? Ibuy BN to read about boxing not Flexen's family. Awful. Just make some intro about brotherly jealousy and move on.

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 03 Mar 2011, 23:23
by dbflex
reggaereggae wrote:
the truth wrote:Anyone else think its went downhill since claude left? i personally dont like the way they praise fighters one fight then slag them the next. how many times have these writers stepped in the ring? i think they should get some respect for people doing a hard job.
Visually, the layout, the graphics, the photos and so on; it has really improved. It is still a must-buy for the serious fan.

But on the negative side, the writing has gone down awfully. Tris DIxon's writing is dreadful, cliche laden, uninspiring dross. I quite like the new approch in terms of 'guest columnist' and the pie chart...not everything works but it's good to try.

I Like the 60 second interview though some of the questions are bland.

But as a writer he is poor. I believe he 'boxed'. Not sure what kind of fights..and his opening editorial about how he 'toured' the US boxing gyms before realising he was a better writer than fighter was egotistical and risible. Like he was some kind of travelling warrior gloriously toiling in the US gyms. What nonsense. As he wrote If he thinks he was a better fighter than writer, he must have been a truly dreadful fighter as his writings is, at best pedestrian. I've seen him on a you tube video and he can barely hit the pads properly.

He come across quite well on TV but he sounds and acts almost exactly like claude used to - which is fine, claude came accross well... but it's very odd.
He should go to writing school - I'm serious. He needs to learn to put some decent prose together.

And what was that Flexen article about Mathew and Ricky Hatton about??? He spends half the article talking about himslef and his brother and imagining various possible scenarios....WTF is that about??? Ibuy BN to read about boxing not Flexen's family. Awful. Just make some intro about brotherly jealousy and move on.
So you've finally turned on me, after hating on Tris for an eternity. Hmm, if by half the article, you mean the opening two paragraphs of a four-page piece, then your definition is skewed to say the least. It made sense in the context of the piece in my opinion and several other readers liked it, but each to their own. As for Tris' boxing skills and experience, what does that have to do with his writing? You say he portrays himself as a 'travelling warrior' then proceed to quote him admitting he was a better writer than fighter – so is he humble or egotistical, make up your mind. No-one's perfect, maybe you're better in the ring than Tris (Nick would know) but are you a better writer than the man you label 'pedestrian' or than the guy who writes about his own family too much?

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 04 Mar 2011, 11:43
by oliverfennell
Final round wrote:there was none left in my local WHSmith which is a good sign.
Or a bad sign, if the shop wasn't even stocking it...

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 04 Mar 2011, 11:47
by oliverfennell
Wrists wrote: In fact with BM as well our publications blow the likes of the Ring and KO out of the water.
KO's been closed for a couple of years, as has Boxing Digest. As far as I know, The Ring is the only national boxing mag in the US now.

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 04 Mar 2011, 12:01
by oliverfennell
Ben_London wrote:One thing I never understood is why someone has to have done something to have an opinion. It's like sometimes you hear old football pros saying "you've never played the game, so you don't know" bla bla.

It's like saying you can't comment on politics as you've never been a politician...

Or whatever, you can't comment on someone's acting ability as you've never been an actor.

I find it's just usually a poor excuse from someone without a good argument.
Agree completely, and I always retort that people have an opinion on films, music, art, politics, other sports, food, etc without having been involved in those industries. How long would a restaurant last if any customer complaints were met with "Have you ever ran a restaurant? Are you a trained chef? No? Well, you need to show more respect!"

Re: Boxing News

Posted: 04 Mar 2011, 12:05
by Tommy Gunn13
oliverfennell wrote:
Final round wrote:there was none left in my local WHSmith which is a good sign.
Or a bad sign, if the shop wasn't even stocking it...
Your so negative Oliver.... :lol: