Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 04 Mar 2011, 07:10
what about Marc 'too sharp' johnson losing his 2nd fight to Richie Wenton?! fight took place in belfast how random!
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Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 04 Mar 2011, 08:26
Juan Manuel Marquez lost his first fight.
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 04 Mar 2011, 08:39
Bloody hell, losing to Bobby Gunn in his debut then boxing the likes of Paul Vaden after a handful of fights! Brave fighter and even braver management.Coco wrote:http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
This fella turned his career around!
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 04 Mar 2011, 10:14
Glen Johnson?
Looking at his record before Woods et al you'd have never have imagined he'd go on to become a world champ and KO Jones, and still be competing at the heighest level in 2011
Looking at his record before Woods et al you'd have never have imagined he'd go on to become a world champ and KO Jones, and still be competing at the heighest level in 2011
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 04 Mar 2011, 11:15
A loss can be turned into a positive as long as you learn from it ;)
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 04 Mar 2011, 11:26
Captain Hook wrote:Glen Johnson?
Looking at his record before Woods et al you'd have never have imagined he'd go on to become a world champ and KO Jones, and still be competing at the heighest level in 2011
I think Glen made 30-0 untill Hopkins got him.
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 04 Mar 2011, 11:35
True, but he lost nine times before becoming world champ and is still fighting for titles.....certainly worthy of a mention IMO.
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 04 Mar 2011, 11:35
and he's never won a fight in his life!lefty wrote:no thats charlie zelenoffKing Geedorah wrote:Hagler dropped two in Philly and had a draw against Seales. He went onto become the best fighter of all time (in my eyes).
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 04 Mar 2011, 11:39
Some heavyweight champs:
Dempsey drew on his debut, Weaver lost. Braddock was a journeyman, Douglas was thought of as the same. Johnson was fairly inconsistent early on.
Dempsey drew on his debut, Weaver lost. Braddock was a journeyman, Douglas was thought of as the same. Johnson was fairly inconsistent early on.
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 04 Mar 2011, 11:45
Did he lose via a bad cut? Read somewhere that Frank Maloney pulled him out to stop the cut getting worse.Coco wrote:Scott Harrison lost to Miguel Matthews
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 04 Mar 2011, 14:29
He only lost to Kirk once. The other one was David Keir when he was stopped on a cut in a fight he was winning.Londonirish wrote: Matthew Hatton getting beat by David Kirk twice
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 04 Mar 2011, 14:41
As stated earlier if u read the threadG-man wrote:He only lost to Kirk once. The other one was David Keir when he was stopped on a cut in a fight he was winning.Londonirish wrote: Matthew Hatton getting beat by David Kirk twice
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 04 Mar 2011, 14:46
So it was - carry on. 
DD
DDRe: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 04 Mar 2011, 15:20
G-man wrote:He only lost to Kirk once. The other one was David Keir when he was stopped on a cut in a fight he was winning.Londonirish wrote: Matthew Hatton getting beat by David Kirk twice
mexican roadsweeper wrote:Hi Martin,Londonirish wrote:There's some Boxers with Early Record's that i would'nt imagine that they'd get that far.. Nathan Cleverly only beating Ernie Smith 39-38 on his debut, and Darren Gethin 39-38 in his second fight.. Matthew Hatton getting beat by David Kirk twice
One of those losses you have down as being to Kirky was against David Keir and if I remember rightly was down to Matthew being cut badly from a head clash
My reading aint the Best
I got the the David bit right tho DDRe: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 06 Mar 2011, 11:02
Rafael Marquez lost his first fight - to this man, talk about a tough debut
Victor Rabanales
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Victor Rabanales
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Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 07 Mar 2011, 13:05
There was an American journeyman, David Jaco, who made Razor Ruddock quit on his stool after eight rounds in Canada in 1985. Ruddock claimed an asthma attack (that's a good one) but he had simply underestimated Jaco, run out of steam and got his arse kicked.
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 07 Mar 2011, 13:16
Many Mexican fighters lose fights early in their career's and end up going onto win world titles Javier Jauregi IBF Lightweight champion, Orlando Salido & Cristobal Cruz won IBF Featherweight titles, Burgos won the IBF Light Flyweight titles. They seem to get thrown to the wolves and bounce back very strongly.
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 07 Mar 2011, 13:20
Don't most of them turn pro at 14 or 15? That would harden anyone, I'd guess. Margarito also lost a few times early, too.El Raincoat wrote:Many Mexican fighters lose fights early in their career's and end up going onto win world titles Javier Jauregi IBF Lightweight champion, Orlando Salido & Cristobal Cruz won IBF Featherweight titles, Burgos won the IBF Light Flyweight titles. They seem to get thrown to the wolves and bounce back very strongly.
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 05:36
Kirino Garcia is the best example you'll find.
Lost his first 23.
Lost his first 23.
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 19:08
Looking at the Prize Fighter line and seeing Robin Reid Drew his 6thfight with http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer Danny Juma only lost to decent people but even still...
Danny Juma only lost to decent people but even still...Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 20:08
Joe Bugner lost by Ko to 1-3 opponent in 1st fight
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Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 20:13
Jack Dempsey lost his 1st fight....by KO
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Indian Jack Dempsey that is....
Never knew how many Jack Dempseys there were in pro boxing.......
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Indian Jack Dempsey that is....
Never knew how many Jack Dempseys there were in pro boxing.......
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 20:33
steve foster snr got thrown in with everyone early on & became a good fighter & boxed for a world title v a very capable champ.
steve robinson went on to win a world title.
alan minter if you check his record.
even mguigan
steve robinson went on to win a world title.
alan minter if you check his record.
even mguigan
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 20:47
Oh yeah he lost to Chris Eubank's brother, Simon I thinkhurlock wrote:steve foster snr got thrown in with everyone early on & became a good fighter & boxed for a world title v a very capable champ.
steve robinson went on to win a world title.
alan minter if you check his record.
even mguigan
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 20:51
peter i think.