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Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 10 Mar 2011, 16:16
by Tommy Gunn13
orbtastic wrote:Has anyone seen the Dunne fight? It was down at 135 I think and I've heard that Thacko had him down early but gassed a little and got stopped due to the weight. I don't know if that's excuses or not, having never seen it. I don't think it was televised.
I never did see this fight,but im sure it was on the undercard of a tv fight&was shown...
I may be confusing this fight with the Ayers-Dunne fight??
Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 10 Mar 2011, 16:20
by palooka
I saw the Ayres v Dunne fight on TV; it may have been ITV; what a fight

Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 10 Mar 2011, 16:22
by Teddy's Toupee
simon fox wrote:I've not seen the fight but there a fantastic interview in 'Sweet Fighting Man' 1 or 2 with Colin Dunne; I'm sure that the fight is mentioned there.
I read an interview with Jon Thaxton and he said he made the move up in weight to light welter as he felt he wasn't strong enough to compete with Billy Schwer and Colin Dunne (there was Michael Ayres as well at the weight); shows how strong the lightweights were back then.
Getting down to lightweight definitely affected his strength and stamina. I could tell the difference when sparring with him. He seemed stronger up at light-welter. I know it's only a few pounds, but at the lower weights it can make a real difference.
Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 10 Mar 2011, 16:29
by Tommy Gunn13
simon fox wrote:I saw the Ayres v Dunne fight on TV; it may have been ITV; what a fight

Ayers was in a couple of top domestic dust ups,the Rigby fight was a cracker..
Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 10 Mar 2011, 16:31
by Tommy Gunn13
Teddy's Toupee wrote:simon fox wrote:I've not seen the fight but there a fantastic interview in 'Sweet Fighting Man' 1 or 2 with Colin Dunne; I'm sure that the fight is mentioned there.
I read an interview with Jon Thaxton and he said he made the move up in weight to light welter as he felt he wasn't strong enough to compete with Billy Schwer and Colin Dunne (there was Michael Ayres as well at the weight); shows how strong the lightweights were back then.
Getting down to lightweight definitely affected his strength and stamina. I could tell the difference when sparring with him. He seemed stronger up at light-welter. I know it's only a few pounds, but at the lower weights it can make a real difference.
Sorry Teddy who did you spar with..Dunne or Thaxton?
Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 10 Mar 2011, 16:39
by palooka
Teddys off line; he's a pal of mine. He used to spar Jon Thaxton over at Brendan Ingles.
Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 10 Mar 2011, 16:43
by Tommy Gunn13
simon fox wrote:Teddys off line; he's a pal of mine. He used to spar Jon Thaxton over at Brendan Ingles.
Ah right..is Teddy an ex pro then?
Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 10 Mar 2011, 16:53
by orbtastic
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:simon fox wrote:I saw the Ayres v Dunne fight on TV; it may have been ITV; what a fight

Ayers was in a couple of top domestic dust ups,the Rigby fight was a cracker..
Sure was.
It genuinely makes me despair looking at the TV schedules these days, there were some tremendous fights back during that time. Seems every week on SKY had a good, quality match-up. Sure some of the SKY cards this year have produced decent entertaining fights but nothing really on a par with the ones mentioned in this thread.
Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 10 Mar 2011, 17:00
by palooka
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:simon fox wrote:Teddys off line; he's a pal of mine. He used to spar Jon Thaxton over at Brendan Ingles.
Ah right..is Teddy an ex pro then?
Yes he was; he had about 20 pro bouts; I don't want to unmask him though.
Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 10 Mar 2011, 17:14
by Tommy Gunn13
simon fox wrote:Tommy Gunn13 wrote:simon fox wrote:Teddys off line; he's a pal of mine. He used to spar Jon Thaxton over at Brendan Ingles.
Ah right..is Teddy an ex pro then?
Yes he was; he had about 20 pro bouts; I don't want to unmask him though.
I wasnt expecting you to..he might divulge who he is

always good to have boxers old&new on the forum...
Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 02:46
by jessi
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:simon fox wrote:Tommy Gunn13 wrote:
That Ko win made Thaxton really..He could always bang as a young one in the Ams,shame his only Aba run was stopped by a more skilfull&experienced Georgie Smith...
Who was some fighter himself; and a very hard hitter (who knocked Paul Ryan out in the amateurs)
Smith wasnt really a banger in the Ams,he knocked Ryan out in the english semis as they was known then..Boxed Thaxton a couple of years after that(Thaxton was 18 i think)
i used to spar georgie smith as an amateur at canvey abc, his punches where very acurate and stung, his younger brother david was even better, they both could of been very good but they never had the 100% dedication it took to be the best.
Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 03:45
by Tommy Gunn13
jessi wrote:Tommy Gunn13 wrote:simon fox wrote:
Who was some fighter himself; and a very hard hitter (who knocked Paul Ryan out in the amateurs)
Smith wasnt really a banger in the Ams,he knocked Ryan out in the english semis as they was known then..Boxed Thaxton a couple of years after that(Thaxton was 18 i think)
i used to spar georgie smith as an amateur at canvey abc, his punches where very acurate and stung, his younger brother david was even better, they both could of been very good but they never had the 100% dedication it took to be the best.
Canvey had a some good boxers in the early 90s..I see his brother David box a few times(wasnt at his brothers standerd)
Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 05:20
by Jon Saxon
orbtastic wrote:jessi wrote:orbtastic wrote:He was a cabbie. Those were his words. I remember it clearly.
I can even remember what he was wearing.
he may of been a mini cab driver, if he was appologys, i was reffering to a london black cab driver, but his cousin still remains confident he was neither, but i will find out for sure tonight and post on here when i know, either way he was a good little fighter.
Yeah it's ok mate, written word and all that, it can be very literal.
I swear I can remember him being interviewed by SKY, before one of his fights up at 147, probably was the McCreesh fight and he's sitting there being quite self effacing in his flat cap, talking about banging out people cos they were taking the piss out of his chin etc. My memory is amazing, sometimes it lets me down and this is what, well over 10 years ago and I've not seen it since. Like I say, I've got it on tape, along with 10-15 of his other fights. He was fun to watch.
I thought Hale was a mortal lock to bang him out.
Here's the Hale & Thacko fights, haven't seen them in probably 15 years..brings back some good memories:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UysQfZz7jUs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LITzByerkVo
Oh yeah...good to see Howard in the corner there (!) You got any good anecdotes for us Scrap?
Thanks for the links, saw both of those live, stil cant believe he beat Hale
Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 08:20
by Scrap
Orbtastic,too many

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Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 09:53
by jessi
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:jessi wrote:Tommy Gunn13 wrote:
Smith wasnt really a banger in the Ams,he knocked Ryan out in the english semis as they was known then..Boxed Thaxton a couple of years after that(Thaxton was 18 i think)
i used to spar georgie smith as an amateur at canvey abc, his punches where very acurate and stung, his younger brother david was even better, they both could of been very good but they never had the 100% dedication it took to be the best.
Canvey had a some good boxers in the early 90s..I see his brother David box a few times(wasnt at his brothers standerd)
yer we had darren dainty, james gunn, the smiths, bradley smith, terry brocklebank, john martin, brett baker, and loads more, i won south east novice in 95 ! i think we won essex club of the year every year from 88 to 2001. good times
Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 11:21
by Tommy Gunn13
jessi wrote:Tommy Gunn13 wrote:jessi wrote:
i used to spar georgie smith as an amateur at canvey abc, his punches where very acurate and stung, his younger brother david was even better, they both could of been very good but they never had the 100% dedication it took to be the best.
Canvey had a some good boxers in the early 90s..I see his brother David box a few times(wasnt at his brothers standerd)
yer we had darren dainty, james gunn, the smiths, bradley smith, terry brocklebank, john martin, brett baker, and loads more, i won south east novice in 95 ! i think we won essex club of the year every year from 88 to 2001. good times
Lee Woolcock aba champion.darren humphreys,Andy Simms,Gary Cox&few more..
Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 12:02
by lefthook82
First time I've seen that KO from Thaxton, thats in the Julian Jackson/Herol Graham mould
Damnnnn!!!
Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 12:28
by palooka
I saw that documentary about Dr Feelgood and Canvey Island looked a right rum place. Might go on that tour they do one day
I saw Georgie Smith box Derick Roach in Carlisle when he was passed his peak but he hung tough and showed he still could cut it. His stamina was done though. When he turned pro he bowled them over. He must have had a good, strong character to even get in with Ryan as an amateur as Paul was knocking them cold.
Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 12:46
by orbtastic
Scrap wrote:Orbtastic,too many

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I bet!
Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 11:19
by jessi
just to update anyone who was interested, paul ryan never took or passed the knowledge of london to become a black cab driver, however he did dable in minicab driving for a very short period of time in the chigwell/loughton area of essex. and aslo according to his uncle his still the minder of a rich arab in central london !
im hopefully going to get an interview with him, so if anyone wants to ask boxing or after boxing related questions feel free to let me know what i should ask him ?

Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 11:30
by Syntax Error
When I was at University & living in East London in the early 1990s, I used to go & watch him fight in Barking & Dagenham; also at Earls Court once.
He was tremendously entertaining fighter.
By no means a great fighter, but certainly one of my favourites.
Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 16 Mar 2011, 17:45
by 1southpaw
jessi wrote:just to update anyone who was interested, paul ryan never took or passed the knowledge of london to become a black cab driver, however he did dable in minicab driving for a very short period of time in the chigwell/loughton area of essex. and aslo according to his uncle his still the minder of a rich arab in central london !
im hopefully going to get an interview with him, so if anyone wants to ask boxing or after boxing related questions feel free to let me know what i should ask him ?

paul told me he had sun bed shops ?? and was doing very well out of it
Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 16 Mar 2011, 17:48
by NazNaci1
Can't say I liked him, came across as bit of a bully.
I remember him saying in an interview, possibly BN?, that if anyone cut him while driving, he would chase them and give them a good hiding. This was while he was fighting, too.
Obviously didnt give a sh!t that he was a professional fighter and that joe public, were exactly that.
Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 01:04
by jessi
1southpaw wrote:jessi wrote:just to update anyone who was interested, paul ryan never took or passed the knowledge of london to become a black cab driver, however he did dable in minicab driving for a very short period of time in the chigwell/loughton area of essex. and aslo according to his uncle his still the minder of a rich arab in central london !
im hopefully going to get an interview with him, so if anyone wants to ask boxing or after boxing related questions feel free to let me know what i should ask him ?

paul told me he had sun bed shops ?? and was doing very well out of it
i will ask him ! so far the questions are have you had or got sun bed shops and are you abit of a road rage bully ?

Re: Scrap Iron Ryan
Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 06:32
by 1southpaw
jessi wrote:1southpaw wrote:jessi wrote:just to update anyone who was interested, paul ryan never took or passed the knowledge of london to become a black cab driver, however he did dable in minicab driving for a very short period of time in the chigwell/loughton area of essex. and aslo according to his uncle his still the minder of a rich arab in central london !
im hopefully going to get an interview with him, so if anyone wants to ask boxing or after boxing related questions feel free to let me know what i should ask him ?

paul told me he had sun bed shops ?? and was doing very well out of it
i will ask him ! so far the questions are have you had or got sun bed shops and are you abit of a road rage bully ?

hehehehe i've been in his company on a few nights out years back not long before the hale & thaxton fights and he was a lovely fella like most boxers are i wouldn't look into him giving someone a slap to much hehehe