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Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 12 Mar 2011, 07:55
by keithmoonhangover
I think it would be cool to have 8 heavyweights representing 8 different countries.

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 07:55
by Craig14
Tua's far too good for any prizefighter. And too much in debt to ever consider it.

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 08:11
by leforge
yid14 wrote:Tua's far too good for any prizefighter. And too much in debt to ever consider it.
32k would help then!

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 08:33
by keithmoonhangover
leforge wrote:
yid14 wrote:Tua's far too good for any prizefighter. And too much in debt to ever consider it.
32k would help then!
If Tua wins another couple of fights, then he'll get a world title shot and ££££££££££££ of pounds.

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 14:02
by Craig14
leforge wrote:
yid14 wrote:Tua's far too good for any prizefighter. And too much in debt to ever consider it.
32k would help then!
He owes millions to the taxman - unfortunatly 32k is a drop in the ocean. But he's fighting this saturday and it's the end to a silly t.v deal he signed so more meaningful and better paid fights should follow.

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 14:51
by McCannW14
yid14 wrote:
leforge wrote:
yid14 wrote:Tua's far too good for any prizefighter. And too much in debt to ever consider it.
32k would help then!
He owes millions to the taxman - unfortunatly 32k is a drop in the ocean. But he's fighting this saturday and it's the end to a silly t.v deal he signed so more meaningful and better paid fights should follow.
Lets face it he will probably go to his grave still owing the taxman. The IRS are better off doing a one off deal and wipe the slate clean.

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 16:12
by keithmoonhangover

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 16:20
by WelshDevil
This has Cliff Cousers name all over it. :OhYes:

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 16:29
by keithmoonhangover
WelshDevil wrote:This has Cliff Cousers name all over it. :OhYes:
100%

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 05:11
by Superheavy
Cue Sky promotional machine: "The Prizefighter tournament's explosive three round format could really suit the big hitting giant from [Germany]/[the United States]/[Russia]/[Ireland], etc etc"

They'll probably get Darren Corbett in again - he likes a Prizefighter pay check.

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 05:28
by Coco
keithmoonhangover wrote:Anyone remember this....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s ... Tournament

I'm sure no one got paid for that

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 05:41
by DavidPayne
McCannW14 wrote:
winkveron wrote:Just seen an interview with Eddie Hearn and he was talking about this event for May 7th. He said he wants to bring over some former champions from America and around the world and he also said the line up will be complemented by exciting domestic prospects.

Who do you think will be in it? Tyson? Holyfield?

Who would you like to see in it?
Fantastic idea and would sell out. Look forward to it.

I would like to see Cedric Boswell from the states. In shape I reckon he would beat Haye and give the Klits real trouble. Terrific old school fighter is Boswell.
Big Ced is all old school beast. I'd lvoe to see him decimate some of the European guys.

But he aint getting any younger. He'd smash the field listed below in my opinion.

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 11:24
by WelshDevil
Coco wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Anyone remember this....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s ... Tournament

I'm sure no one got paid for that
Tubbs got paid but it was nowhere near the $1 million originally advertised.

Seemed a good concept but too many of the original line-up pulled out.

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 15 Mar 2011, 02:09
by oliverfennell
MacTavish wrote:Think you might get someone like Joe Bugner (or is he a bit toooo old?).

Tim Witherspoon would deffo be up for it. :box:
Considering Witherspoon was denied a British licence in 2007 and Bugner denied one in 1996, I really don't think those are feasible!

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 15 Mar 2011, 02:30
by oliverfennell
damianhucker1 wrote:Replace any one of those with an african as i couldnt think of an African representative other than Sam peter who i dont think would be up for it despite the fact i think he would be a good additon .
Botha
Friday Ahunanya
Franklin Egobe
Flo Simba
Anton Nel

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 15 Mar 2011, 02:54
by Craig14
oliverfennell wrote:
damianhucker1 wrote:Replace any one of those with an african as i couldnt think of an African representative other than Sam peter who i dont think would be up for it despite the fact i think he would be a good additon .
Botha
Friday Ahunanya
Franklin Egobe
Flo Simba
Anton Nel
That's not a very inspiring list. I saw Egobe at the last prizefighter and was unfortunate enough to draw him out of the sweepstake. I saw Ahunanya fight Tua last year and I think he threw about ten punches in 12 rounds, Nel and Botha are way way past it and I've never heard of Flo Simba.

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 15 Mar 2011, 04:39
by oliverfennell
To be realistic, we need to eliminate anyone who

a) is aiming for a title shot (whether they'll get it or not is irrelevant - it's their stated goal) and a PF win would not aid them in that regard. So scratch Holyfield, Sam Peter, Tua, Toney.

b) can get more than, or a similar amount, to the 32k for a single fight. Again, that eliminates Holyfield, Peter etc.

c) couldn't be match-fit by May, so forget the long-inactive likes of Tyson, Bowe, Butterbean.

d) has a major fight scheduled before, in or soon after May. This eliminates Boswell, Peter, Holyfield, McBride, Leapai

So, basically, fighters with a reasonable name/reputation who stand to gain more with a win than they would lose with a defeat.

First of all, we'd need one or two UK guys. Previous winners Sprott, Rogan and Harrison would be good. Danny Williams, now that he's come back, would have nothing to lose. Skelton, while old, would be worth another run.

One or two big-name ex-champs from the States who are still active but don't look to be getting a title shot anytime soon. McCall, Briggs or Rahman would be perfect.

Some faded big names from other parts of the world - Botha, Owen Beck, Timo Hoffman, Corrie Sanders

Some respected/exciting veterans - Barrett, Travis Walker, Lance Whitaker, McCline

Undefeated fighters with something to prove - Flo Simba, Tor Hamer, Justin Whitehead

One or two giants just for the spectacle - Julius Long, Ustinov, Fields

Some journeymen who've been known to spring upsets - Demetrice King, Zuri Lawrence, Zack Page...

Boxers who've won similar tournaments before would carry a bit of prestige. How about Maurice Harris, who won the Thunderbox equivalent a few years ago, or Ivica Bacurin, who won the latest Bigger's Better and actually looked pretty decent.

Some realistic comebacks specifically for Prizefighter a la Reid, Dodson, Holden (I know the latter two didn't actually happen, but you know what I mean) - Moorer, Byrd, Maskaev, Larry Donald, Mercer?? (probably wouldn't be licensed by the board)

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 15 Mar 2011, 04:44
by oliverfennell
yid14 wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:
damianhucker1 wrote:Replace any one of those with an african as i couldnt think of an African representative other than Sam peter who i dont think would be up for it despite the fact i think he would be a good additon .
Botha
Friday Ahunanya
Franklin Egobe
Flo Simba
Anton Nel
That's not a very inspiring list. I saw Egobe at the last prizefighter and was unfortunate enough to draw him out of the sweepstake. I saw Ahunanya fight Tua last year and I think he threw about ten punches in 12 rounds, Nel and Botha are way way past it and I've never heard of Flo Simba.
Sure, not "very inspiring" but Prizefighter is not for A-listers. Depending on the field, Botha could do well through grit and experience, Nel is a win-some/lose-some fighter but can be exciting for that reason, Ahunanya may not be especially exciting but I'm sure he could comfortably outbox some, Egobe did well vs McBride and as for Flo Simba, well, this is all I know of him, but it's good enough for me! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTMb30L_eIk

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 15 Mar 2011, 05:20
by Craig14
oliverfennell wrote:
yid14 wrote:
oliverfennell wrote: Botha
Friday Ahunanya
Franklin Egobe
Flo Simba
Anton Nel
That's not a very inspiring list. I saw Egobe at the last prizefighter and was unfortunate enough to draw him out of the sweepstake. I saw Ahunanya fight Tua last year and I think he threw about ten punches in 12 rounds, Nel and Botha are way way past it and I've never heard of Flo Simba.
Sure, not "very inspiring" but Prizefighter is not for A-listers. Depending on the field, Botha could do well through grit and experience, Nel is a win-some/lose-some fighter but can be exciting for that reason, Ahunanya may not be especially exciting but I'm sure he could comfortably outbox some, Egobe did well vs McBride and as for Flo Simba, well, this is all I know of him, but it's good enough for me! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTMb30L_eIk
He lookslike a future opponent for Tyson Fury.
In all honesty though I don't see the point of having a has-been international heavyweight prizefighter. I think the concept is much better suited to lighter weights and younger boxers where there's more action and I'd keep it with well supported home fighters. If it's not broke don't fix it.

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 15 Mar 2011, 08:59
by oliverfennell
yid14 wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:
yid14 wrote: That's not a very inspiring list. I saw Egobe at the last prizefighter and was unfortunate enough to draw him out of the sweepstake. I saw Ahunanya fight Tua last year and I think he threw about ten punches in 12 rounds, Nel and Botha are way way past it and I've never heard of Flo Simba.
Sure, not "very inspiring" but Prizefighter is not for A-listers. Depending on the field, Botha could do well through grit and experience, Nel is a win-some/lose-some fighter but can be exciting for that reason, Ahunanya may not be especially exciting but I'm sure he could comfortably outbox some, Egobe did well vs McBride and as for Flo Simba, well, this is all I know of him, but it's good enough for me! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTMb30L_eIk
He lookslike a future opponent for Tyson Fury.
In all honesty though I don't see the point of having a has-been international heavyweight prizefighter. I think the concept is much better suited to lighter weights and younger boxers where there's more action and I'd keep it with well supported home fighters. If it's not broke don't fix it.
Well it shouldn't be all has-beens. The best Prizefighters are a mix of hopefuls and veterans. As for the weights, I'd say with the exception of the recent superfeather one, they have tended to more entertaining higher up the scales - heavyweights 1,2,3, cruiserweights 1 and lightheavies 1.

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 15 Mar 2011, 09:10
by leforge
Like to see Sprott in this. If not like to see Sprott fight Dimtrenko v Snowseki? (I know I spelt Albert name wrong)

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 15 Mar 2011, 13:20
by slapbangwhallop
I'll say that Mike Perez will enter and win this IF he can put the cakes and rum away for two months.

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 22 Mar 2011, 07:33
by leforge
Rahman, Vinny Madelone,Kevin Johnson,Sprott, Sexton, Mike Perez all mentioned to be in it by Eddie Hearn on the main event show. 4 of names be annouced on Thursday.

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 22 Mar 2011, 07:35
by leforge
Germany, Hollond, Polond all take the tv for this apparently.

Re: Int'l Heavyweight Prizefighter

Posted: 22 Mar 2011, 09:18
by Flump
It's got potential as an idea, I'd watch it, but guys like Botha, Witherspoon etc will never get licenced. Even Danny Williams might struggle.