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orbtastic wrote:They did a fair bit on "Irish luck" the other day? spent what seemed like forever talking to McCloskey.

To be fair I did say that in my post, however, this is the busiest week and month for Irish boxing in living memory and we couldnt command a front page.

slapbangwhallop wrote:

orbtastic wrote:They did a fair bit on "Irish luck" the other day? spent what seemed like forever talking to McCloskey.

To be fair I did say that in my post, however, this is the busiest week and month for Irish boxing in living memory and we couldnt command a front page.

It's not a charity, they put on what they think will sell the mag, and evidently not enough Irish people buy it.

Spreading anti-English feelings, that's the way to make Ricky into a bigger star across the country!

gobbles wrote:Spreading anti-English feelings, that's the way to make Ricky into a bigger star across the country!

I think a defence against an English fighte would sell more tickets than against the likes of Layera!

Yeah, true.

Ireland's always a slightly different case as it's the whole RTE thing and Dunne for example, I don't think he was shown on UK TV once. There is definitely always an English bias but as someone said the other day about Burns "I couldn't understand a word he said", despite me not thinking his accent is that thick. I think that geographic location does play a part too, there is an inherant laziness to a lot of London-centric things (not just boxing).

That said, a boxer will nearly always appeal to a core demographic...and the population of Scotland is pretty small compared to the UK overall, or even England.

burns would beat any english fighter in his weight division.
If an english fighter was holding the title he wouldnt mess around fighting fellow "brits" so why should burns?
Hes above domestic level now. Fair enough i can agree that his last two fights haven been against oppenents who are far from world class but thats boxing. Hes had enough years of undercard fights so deserves an opportunity to make good money and whilst doing so he is calling out bigger names so he cant be accused of ducking anyone.
Id be the first to agree that the last2 fights have been a rip off, 40 quid and then 50 quid to watch mis-matches just because its "world champnship boxing". Rip off yes

Still, billy i wouldnt accuse Skyof being anti scottish as they have had burns on ringside etc and mention him on a regular basis but i can see your point that if it was Khan, Haye or Froch there defo would have been more focus. Just use Hayes shambolic even against Harrison? That got shows dedicated to it and that was a bigger joke than Burns v Lareya!!

Although i wouldnt class Sky as being anti scottish i now recognise a few names on here that are.
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Emmseegee wrote:burns would beat any english fighter in his weight division.
If an english fighter was holding the title he wouldnt mess around fighting fellow "brits" so why should burns?
Hes above domestic level now. Fair enough i can agree that his last two fights haven been against oppenents who are far from world class but thats boxing. Hes had enough years of undercard fights so deserves an opportunity to make good money and whilst doing so he is calling out bigger names so he cant be accused of ducking anyone.
Id be the first to agree that the last2 fights have been a rip off, 40 quid and then 50 quid to watch mis-matches just because its "world champnship boxing". Rip off yes

Still, billy i wouldnt accuse Skyof being anti scottish as they have had burns on ringside etc and mention him on a regular basis but i can see your point that if it was Khan, Haye or Froch there defo would have been more focus. Just use Hayes shambolic even against Harrison? That got shows dedicated to it and that was a bigger joke than Burns v Lareya!!

Although i wouldnt class Sky as being anti scottish i now recognise a few names on here that are.
FREEDOM

Sky are trying to sell PPV. Haye and Khan are major stars, Burns is not. In a business sense, it's wise to have Haye and Khan banded about like they are.

Emmseegee wrote:burns would beat any english fighter in his weight division.
If an english fighter was holding the title he wouldnt mess around fighting fellow "brits" so why should burns?
Hes above domestic level now. Fair enough i can agree that his last two fights haven been against oppenents who are far from world class but thats boxing.

Just use Hayes shambolic even against Harrison? That got shows dedicated to it and that was a bigger joke than Burns v Lareya!!

So he's above fighting domestic level opposition, but his last two opponents are 'far from world class'? Bit of a contradiction? Not that I'm saying he should go back to fighting domestic opposition but you can excuse the lack of interest in defenses against Evensen and Laryea.

Haye vs Harrison made them XX Millions, Burns vs Lareya made them how much?

I think it's disgusting that Ringside and Sky don't have any commentators/pundits from Birmingham. I can't abide Ringsides anti-Birmingham stance, why are we continually oppressed by these southerners??

Emmseegee wrote: Although i wouldnt class Sky as being anti scottish i now recognise a few names on here that are.
FREEDOM

I hate the fact that Hadrian's wall is in such disrepair when then Chinese can keep their great wall in such pristine condition. Can't the national lottery fund it where they can rebuild it and make it 10 foot higher - with a few machine gun turrets built every 10 yards.

Ben Carey wrote:This thread is funny.

We await Alex Morrison's follow-up press release....

"I, Alex Morrison, manager of WBO super-featherweight champion Ricky Burns, wish to disassociate myself from recent comments made on the Boxrec forum by Billy Nelson who reckons the SKY Ringside team are anti-Jocks."

Scottrf wrote:

slapbangwhallop wrote:

orbtastic wrote:They did a fair bit on "Irish luck" the other day? spent what seemed like forever talking to McCloskey.

To be fair I did say that in my post, however, this is the busiest week and month for Irish boxing in living memory and we couldnt command a front page.

It's not a charity, they put on what they think will sell the mag, and evidently not enough Irish people buy it.

Chicken and egg my friend!

Also are you saying that English/Scottish/Welsh readers are not interested in Irish fighters?

slapbangwhallop wrote: Also are you saying that English/Scottish/Welsh readers are not interested in Irish fighters?

That is a pandoras box you are opening my friend!

slapbangwhallop wrote:Chicken and egg my friend!

Also are you saying that English/Scottish/Welsh readers are not interested in Irish fighters?

They will be most interested in boxers in their country, and a magazine will focus on those they feel their readership is interested in. It's not a magazine's job to promote boxers. If Burns won an Olympic medal and was consistently in exciting and high quality fights, him being Scottish would be secondary.

Scottrf wrote:

slapbangwhallop wrote:Chicken and egg my friend!

Also are you saying that English/Scottish/Welsh readers are not interested in Irish fighters?

They will be most interested in boxers in their country, and a magazine will focus on those they feel their readership is interested in. It's not a magazine's job to promote boxers. If Burns won an Olympic medal and was consistently in exciting and high quality fights, him being Scottish would be secondary.

I think you are missing my point.

I never said that it was the "magazine's job to promote boxers". That begs the question, what is the point of the magazine? From a business perspective its purely down to sales and advertising. From a boxing perspective it is to report and preview on the most pertainant boxing events on the scene.

I dont know what the sales are in the various countries and regions. But what I do know is that if you ignore a sector of the market they wont buy the magazine, and if you fill your magazine with writers from a certain area then who "will be most interested in boxers in their country" then people outside that wont buy the magazine.

Is that good for the magazine, is that good for the boxing public in the UK and Ireland, will that be good for sales?

Buy the way, Boxing News and SKY Boxing do a great job in my opinion.

The fight deserved more of a mention than it received. I'm sure they will take a greater interest if the Fana fight comes off. I don't think Ringside are anti-Scottish. Billy is right.......'mon the Jocks!!!!!

yeah it was a rather paltry blink and you'll miss it coverage of the fight.

just tell allegedly to make the adrien broner fight.

never wanted to see a yank get a beating at the braehead more than that guy.

Chambers2 wrote:I think it's disgusting that Ringside and Sky don't have any commentators/pundits from Birmingham. I can't abide Ringsides anti-Birmingham stance, why are we continually oppressed by these southerners??

nelson, piper, mcCory, watt ! all southerners, anyway you got woodhall now, why do birmingham people sound so miserable ? :geek2:

jessi wrote:why do birmingham people sound so miserable ?

Because they live in Birmingham

jessi wrote:

Chambers2 wrote:I think it's disgusting that Ringside and Sky don't have any commentators/pundits from Birmingham. I can't abide Ringsides anti-Birmingham stance, why are we continually oppressed by these southerners??

nelson, piper, mcCory, watt ! all southerners

I don't think it's them making the decisions

jessi wrote:why do birmingham people sound so miserable ? :geek2:

You ever been there?

Scottrf wrote:

jessi wrote:why do birmingham people sound so miserable ?

Because they live in Birmingham

ha ha, im so stupid, dident even think of that one !

Chambers2 wrote:

billy nelson wrote:

Chambers2 wrote: Fcuk off Billy, put your toys back in the pram!! That's a typical Scottish/Welsh/Irish response to something they don't like, if in doubt blame the English (1000's of years of oppression and all that bollocks)


Yeah they looked really anti-Scottish when they sent Jamie Moore up there last week to interview you and Ricky, it was an excellent 10 minute piece if I recall

They brought jamie up to do that in my gym coz it coincided with Ricky's fight. Listen if it were khan,haye or carl the'd have been mentioned 100%.Anyway nobody from Englands even good enough now to fight Burns maybe thats why we were blanked COME ON THE JOCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Crollas gonna get ya!!
Crollas gonna get ya!!

dont think crollas gona get him, but sykes will, so thats two billy !

Chambers2 wrote:

jessi wrote:

Chambers2 wrote:I think it's disgusting that Ringside and Sky don't have any commentators/pundits from Birmingham. I can't abide Ringsides anti-Birmingham stance, why are we continually oppressed by these southerners??

nelson, piper, mcCory, watt ! all southerners

I don't think it's them making the decisions

jessi wrote:why do birmingham people sound so miserable ? :geek2:

You ever been there?

i drive up the m6 occasionally as fast as possible !

GAV wrote:The fight deserved more of a mention than it received. I'm sure they will take a greater interest if the Fana fight comes off. I don't think Ringside are anti-Scottish. Billy is right.......'mon the Jocks!!!!!

The fight was a joke, they shouldn't have mentioned it at all, they should have pretended it never happened.

The Dark Destroyer wrote:They could have mentioned it while recapping last weeks fights. Although surely there is some assumed knowledge, fans of the sport watch Ringside that is shown on a subscription channel that carried the Burns fight last weekend, I'm sure 99% of the people who watch it watched the Burns fight.

Yeah, to be honest, it annoyed me on Ringside when they would show previews then repeat them in the build up on Saturday Fight Night. I'd rather see new stuff than recaps.