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Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 02 Apr 2011, 19:05
by Final round
Enzo can't take a big punch anymore. Tony has a good punch at Lhw and he'd hurt Enzo.

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 02 Apr 2011, 19:28
by davie
Coco wrote:Two FW light heavyweights both at championship level, seems logical they will fight soon, should be a great fight, two bangers who both can be hurt, both very big at the weight, should be a cracker
please tell me your talking about a different enzo than the one i'm thinking of.

maccaranelli is a cruiserweight, but more importantly, he should never fight again if he values his health.

i was a big fan, but i really worry the guys going to get seriously hurt.

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 03 Apr 2011, 03:50
by mickey1975
taffytoon wrote:
bengulnaci1 wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:Its mad people can write Enzo off against Bomber because he has been sparked at Cruiser,a stone and half above Light-Heavy.All those defeats,with the exception of Swaby,came against quality operators including David Haye FFS!I think it would be a big leap for Tony and a very dangerous fight for him.Apart from the Haye bout,Enzo did land on the others and judging by Tony's last two fights,you have to say he is in with a hell of a chance.I would even make him favourite(sorry Bomber!).
You do know that coming down in weight does not necessarily mean you will be more effective, a bigger puncher or more likely to take the punches. In truth, doing this means the exact opposite. Your much more vunerable, not more effective.

To think Enzo, dropping a few pounds will right what is already wrong, is crazy. He will be even less dangerous and more likely to get sparked. Time will tell, but i am pretty sure i am right.
Your argument is correct but Tony is a Huge LH and this logic also applies to him. Enzo has made the weight easily, I think staying at LH for Tony is a struggle and is the reason he has been dropped so often. I still think it would be a good fight and have Enzo winning.
Absolutely right.Tony even said in the interview after the Ajisafe fight,"i didnt think i could do the distance at Cruiser",or words to that effect.That suggests a hell of a lot of draining,as does his weight for years in the amateurs.Anyone who has followed Enzo's career knows he has always walked around at around the Cruiser limit.I reckon they are naturally similar sizes with Enzo being the bigger puncher.Who knows how good Tony will be,we will find out when he gets to Euro level,but he has struggled with a lot less accomlished fighters than Enzon recently.

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 03 Apr 2011, 04:04
by crusader
Enzo looked world class until Frenkel knocked him out, so he can still fight, it's just his chin that lets him down. I think he is a better fighter than Toney (no offense bomber) but it's hard to say how this fight would go without knowing how the move down impacts Enzo, and if he still has confidence after being knocked out so brutally.

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 03 Apr 2011, 14:16
by taffytoon
lefty wrote:
bengulnaci1 wrote:Not killer instinct mate, its a case of, if someone is going to hit you anyways, you may aswell hit them back.
True,well confidence then!Ive always had this fear that il crack someone as hard as i can and it wont have any impact on them and then they'll beat me half to death!Ha.Not a good way of being actually.
With this in mind surely you should stop typing the Cr*p you type towards pro boxers?

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 03 Apr 2011, 14:19
by NazNaci1
Probably best if we stay off that particular argument, matey :TU:

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 03 Apr 2011, 15:03
by taffytoon
bengulnaci1 wrote:Probably best if we stay off that particular argument, matey :TU:
I wrote this BEFORE reading his comment about Michaels Mother, after reading that the guy is an absolute ar*ehole who is now on ignore. Nasty piece of work if you ask me. :shame: :shame:

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 03 Apr 2011, 15:36
by DazBoxingFan
Very good question

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 03 Apr 2011, 15:39
by Dioufy
DazBoxingFan wrote:Very good question
E-X-A-C-T-L-Y what I was thinking.

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 10:17
by IronLiver
I find both men very similar fighters I'd love to see it

Enzo hits a little harder and has a hell of a lot more big fight experience.

Although Tony is no mug in any department and punches very hard he also seems to have the ability to mop himself off the canvas and have the heart and brains to get himself back in a fight.


I can't pick a winner for this one atm

A real fans kinda fight though.

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 10:44
by merseybox
saw maccarinelli at recent prizefighter in liverpool. looks very drawn at light-heavy. very drawn.

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 12:03
by Arnie
Bellew wins

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 12:17
by DIRT SUGAR
Enzo'll be weak as a kitten at light-heavy, he won't bring power down with him at this stage in his career. Bellew early.

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 17:45
by brian13
Bomber by KO within three rounds.

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 18:29
by Asterix
When do we get to see Big Macc fight at light heavy? I can't predict this fight properly unless I know what Maccarinelli is like.

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 07:53
by Captain Hook
The last thing Mac needs is to drop down a weight and immediately get in with a guy who seems to bang as hard as any cruiser. It would be awful match making.

Great for neutrals, but not for those of us who don't want to see him laid out on the canvas again. He's had several sickening KOs to deal with already, and I fear this would be another one.

A peak Enzo would beat Bellew but he's had several hidings now and should steer clear of powerful bangers like Tony IMO.

Bellew should be aiming for Clev, though I agree this would be a great scalp for him.

I hope it doesn't happen tbh.

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 08:54
by JamesH
taffytoon wrote:
bengulnaci1 wrote:Probably best if we stay off that particular argument, matey :TU:
I wrote this BEFORE reading his comment about Michaels Mother, after reading that the guy is an absolute ar*ehole who is now on ignore. Nasty piece of work if you ask me. :shame: :shame:
Have to say Lefty, you didn't do yourself any favours there. I haven't been on too often of late but the general view of you seems to have gone from you being a well intentioned but naive poster, to being a complete arse-nibbling knob head.

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 12:06
by kamicazze
All of enzo's knockouts have been by massive punchers, but then you cant discount ovill mckenzie's power. That guy can bang. Personally, i think it could be a world title fight as both are good enough to be on that level. Enzo has more power, and experience. But id say that Bellew has come through adversity before, has more well rounded boxing skills and is hungry for it. If bellew goes down, history suggests he will get back up and carry on but if enzo goes down history will mean hes finished and on top of that no ref would even risk letting him continue after he's gone down after the events of his last fight

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 18:33
by mickey1975
kamicazze wrote:All of enzo's knockouts have been by massive punchers, but then you cant discount ovill mckenzie's power. That guy can bang. Personally, i think it could be a world title fight as both are good enough to be on that level. Enzo has more power, and experience. But id say that Bellew has come through adversity before, has more well rounded boxing skills and is hungry for it. If bellew goes down, history suggests he will get back up and carry on but if enzo goes down history will mean hes finished and on top of that no ref would even risk letting him continue after he's gone down after the events of his last fight
Thats a bit ofa generalization.Enzo got up to k.o Bruce Scott but didnt David Haye.Hardly Bob Ajisafe though,is he?

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 11:04
by jaywillo1983
merseybox wrote:saw maccarinelli at recent prizefighter in liverpool. looks very drawn at light-heavy. very drawn.
I saw him to an he looked ill.

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 13:15
by Darcy Delaney
jaywillo1983 wrote:
merseybox wrote:saw maccarinelli at recent prizefighter in liverpool. looks very drawn at light-heavy. very drawn.
I saw him to an he looked ill.
Enzo said he's done the weight in the gym and felt strong if he's telling the truth i could see him clearing up at light heavy i think he hits to hard for Bellow but i just think why didn't he do light heavy years back ????

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 14:17
by Dan Dares
kamicazze wrote:If bellew goes down, history suggests he will get back up and carry on but if enzo goes down history will mean hes finished and on top of that no ref would even risk letting him continue after he's gone down after the events of his last fight
Spot on. Bellew's been down, but i've never seen him look wobbly. Enzo has never been anywhere near 175 professionally. I can't see him retaining his power.

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 06 Apr 2011, 14:36
by chiggsy
Bellew by brutal ko.
I saw enzo at the last prizefighter and he had a neck like an ostrich,looked very drawn.
Bellews honey punch is the left hook and when it lands it's all over for enzo.

Re: Enzo v Bellow, who wins?

Posted: 07 Apr 2011, 15:56
by jaywillo1983
Darcy Delaney wrote:
jaywillo1983 wrote:
merseybox wrote:saw maccarinelli at recent prizefighter in liverpool. looks very drawn at light-heavy. very drawn.
I saw him to an he looked ill.
Enzo said he's done the weight in the gym and felt strong if he's telling the truth i could see him clearing up at light heavy i think he hits to hard for Bellow but i just think why didn't he do light heavy years back ????

I really like Enzo as a person, he comes across as very humble (unlike most talented boxers over last 18 months) but time is definately up, no matter what weight he is at. He looked so frail and ill at the prizefighter, but if he still thinks he can go for one last hurrah, then i really hope it works for him.