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This will be a cracker.. Billy your a top man, I just can't see how he beats Stephen?? He won't outbox him and I am yet to see anyone outfight him and that includes all the places I've been with him and people who are world class.. I tipped John to beat Lindsay to Swifty and Billy but Stephen is not Lindsay.. He has a fantastic brain that can adapt to anything that's put in front of him..

Is the commenwealth title up for graps aswell?
We all have our opinons on the last fight, the fact everyone is divided means it really was close, but that is water under the bridge. In the last fight Stephen took the fight to John early on and dominated the opening rounds, when Simmy got close to Stephen and worked him inside Stephen didn't like it. People can say He hurt his hand but incase we all forgot, it boxing you are going to hurt your hand it is part and parcel of the sport, its how you react that's importaint. I personally feel Simmy had a bad night in the first fight and didn't box the way he can but I think Simpson will be head home with both belts. Stephen comes across as a nice guy on here but I just think Simmy will edge this one. Good luck to both boxers

What a massive fight for Smith this has grown into. Simpson beating Lindsay could end up being the best thing that ever happened him! It'll be close whoever wins. I agree with those saying Simpson's performance was poor, he was getting his punches off second far too often. However that is balanced by Smith's hand injury, fighting away from home and inexperience. Its a very good match at this point in their careers.

I'm a big fan of Simpson but he clearly has not dominated domestic level. A loss has always been around the corner. I think alot will depend on what kind of shape Simpson is in.

Overall I think Smith will take a close decison.

SOUTHPAW wrote:

simon fox wrote:Alright Michael; You'd been around the same weight for over 10 years, when you stopped boiling down and dieting you were bound to pile it on. It happened to a few feathers and superfeathers round Donny. Pete Gabbitus is really stocky, you not think he'd been 9/4 and 9/9 up to been about 35 years old. He must be 14 stone now (muscle).

PETER GABBITUS.............Got robbed blind against him.....He bit me too...

Oh he knew all the tricks ; he was a splendid boxer 10 years before you boxed him Chris. Did he nip you on the titty or the ear?

tear up wrote:

simon fox wrote:Is it happening up in Hartlepool? That will be some scrap; what weight is it made at?

esham in dream land punch drunk when talk with him on the phone two burnt out play boys fightin 4 years to late ha everyone in this town want it

Bomber 1 wrote:This will be a cracker.. Billy your a top man, I just can't see how he beats Stephen?? He won't outbox him and I am yet to see anyone outfight him and that includes all the places I've been with him and people who are world class.. I tipped John to beat Lindsay to Swifty and Billy but Stephen is not Lindsay.. He has a fantastic brain that can adapt to anything that's put in front of him..

You must be a fantastic friend to have bomber; you really sing their praises. I thought that the 1st bout was close but that John Simpson had done enough to win. Lindsay is also another top class domestic fighter with a fine mind. Simpson must feel horribly apprehensive before the judges scorecards are announced as I've yet to see him cop a close decision. I imagine that the 2nd bout will be as hard fought; I'm really looking forward to it.

simon fox wrote:

Bomber 1 wrote:This will be a cracker.. Billy your a top man, I just can't see how he beats Stephen?? He won't outbox him and I am yet to see anyone outfight him and that includes all the places I've been with him and people who are world class.. I tipped John to beat Lindsay to Swifty and Billy but Stephen is not Lindsay.. He has a fantastic brain that can adapt to anything that's put in front of him..

You must be a fantastic friend to have bomber; you really sing their praises. I thought that the 1st bout was close but that John Simpson had done enough to win. Lindsay is also another top class domestic fighter with a fine mind. Simpson must feel horribly apprehensive before the judges scorecards are announced as I've yet to see him cop a close decision. I imagine that the 2nd bout will be as hard fought; I'm really looking forward to it.

Tony is a top man mate and of coarse hes entitled to his opinion just like everyone else but i agree with an earlier statement lindsay has a very good boxing brain and look what john done to him? Roll on 27th the jock are on there way

billy nelson wrote:

simon fox wrote:

Bomber 1 wrote:This will be a cracker.. Billy your a top man, I just can't see how he beats Stephen?? He won't outbox him and I am yet to see anyone outfight him and that includes all the places I've been with him and people who are world class.. I tipped John to beat Lindsay to Swifty and Billy but Stephen is not Lindsay.. He has a fantastic brain that can adapt to anything that's put in front of him..

You must be a fantastic friend to have bomber; you really sing their praises. I thought that the 1st bout was close but that John Simpson had done enough to win. Lindsay is also another top class domestic fighter with a fine mind. Simpson must feel horribly apprehensive before the judges scorecards are announced as I've yet to see him cop a close decision. I imagine that the 2nd bout will be as hard fought; I'm really looking forward to it.

Tony is a top man mate and of coarse hes entitled to his opinion just like everyone else but i agree with an earlier statement lindsay has a very good boxing brain and look what john done to him? Roll on 27th the jock are on there way

i have my 4th child born on that date hoprfully or would of been ring side to witness these to go ahead once again i like swifty but im pals with john but sorry guys i say john win s this one and deserves a european shot or the ibf i use to dream abvout that belt for a full year

Should be a belter i'll be raging if it doesn't go ahead. I also thought Simpson won the first encounter. He's yet to lose a rematch which is interesting plus he's beat a few undefeated champs along the way as well as had a few dodgy decisions too. Both guys were not at their best in the last bout i thought. Smiths a talented fighter no doubt about it but i'm going for Simmo.

Is Simpson promoted by Maloney ?

Alba wrote:Is Simpson promoted by Maloney ?

I thought it was Morrison to be honest.

I thought that after the Lindsay fight, it was mentioned that maloney was now promoting simpson - was it part of the deal to fight lindsay? Possible that morrison is still his manager like morrison is still Burns manager.

sgtcecil wrote:I thought that after the Lindsay fight, it was mentioned that maloney was now promoting simpson - was it part of the deal to fight lindsay? Possible that morrison is still his manager like morrison is still Burns manager.

You might be right mate. Was thinking but, if Maloney is promoting Simmy, why is he going down to Liverpool if he won the purse? Anno John boxes better away from home but you would think it would be back up here again. Is the commenwealth up for grabs aswell.

simon fox wrote:

SOUTHPAW wrote:

simon fox wrote:Alright Michael; You'd been around the same weight for over 10 years, when you stopped boiling down and dieting you were bound to pile it on. It happened to a few feathers and superfeathers round Donny. Pete Gabbitus is really stocky, you not think he'd been 9/4 and 9/9 up to been about 35 years old. He must be 14 stone now (muscle).

PETER GABBITUS.............Got robbed blind against him.....He bit me too...

Oh he knew all the tricks ; he was a splendid boxer 10 years before you boxed him Chris. Did he nip you on the titty or the ear?

Neck..then i put him down and the ref..Mr Roy Snipe just told him to get up...lol....he was past his best...didnt think he was that strong..i thought Dean Bramhall was stronger

Simpson deserves all the credit in the world as he is tough as old boots with under-rated old school skills. But trust me he doesn't beat Swifty Smith. Ever. Smith done the bizzo up in Scotland and his hand genuinely 'went' during that fight. With two good mitts and having that bit more experience of a big TV fight under his belt I'll be having a massive punt on this and am praying I can get something like the 5/6 I got first time round.

TheGoods wrote:Simpson deserves all the credit in the world as he is tough as old boots with under-rated old school skills. But trust me he doesn't beat Swifty Smith. Ever. Smith done the bizzo up in Scotland and his hand genuinely 'went' during that fight. With two good mitts and having that bit more experience of a big TV fight under his belt I'll be having a massive punt on this and am praying I can get something like the 5/6 I got first time round.

John Simpson v Stephen Smith-27/04/2011 20:00

Fight Winner
4/6 Stephen Smith
5/4 John Simpson
20/1 Draw

Just copy and pasted it from SportingBet. Am going the draw for value.

DougieC30 wrote:

sgtcecil wrote:I thought that after the Lindsay fight, it was mentioned that maloney was now promoting simpson - was it part of the deal to fight lindsay? Possible that morrison is still his manager like morrison is still Burns manager.

You might be right mate. Was thinking but, if Maloney is promoting Simmy, why is he going down to Liverpool if he won the purse? Anno John boxes better away from home but you would think it would be back up here again. Is the commenwealth up for grabs aswell.

I'd imagine ticket sales. He must be confident in John - after all his best performances are away from home and he isn't a prolific ticket seller like Burns. Also a Liverpool showcase for Price.

I really hope Simpson does it and I'd have him and swifty both favorites to beat the EBU holder. I think an IBF shot would be a step too far for Simpson but you couldn't begrudge him of it.

You would assume that the Commonwealth would be fought for.

billy nelson wrote:

liamsmith88 wrote:Here we go AGAIN, am surei read the same comments off u Billy before the first fight. How is ibf title long overdue wen theres people like Jamie Moore, John murry, kell brook, matt mackilin all still waiting on world title fights after dominating domestic level, John Simpson has never dominated domestic level

Well you dont win the lonsdale belt outright unless youve dominated the division

You do if its over a 7 year period with 7 losses between it!

billy nelson wrote:

$wifty wrote:Never knew you were offered the fight Michael, news to me that, would have been great to share a ring with ye, great fighter.

Same old from Billy, John may not have performed to his best...but do u think I did with the hand injury? I watched John at his best in Belfast John has seen nothing from me yet. I will win April 27th and go home with the British Title

No you won't!!! just make sure your there and dont pull out Stephen?

Here u go again talking your usual shite!!! When have I pulled out ever? And why would I? I was there at the press conference today, where was u? Where was John? I went to both press conferences in Glasgow last time! I have nothing to fear from John Simpson, cant wait to here what u are wafflin after this fight!

$wifty wrote:

billy nelson wrote:

liamsmith88 wrote:Here we go AGAIN, am surei read the same comments off u Billy before the first fight. How is ibf title long overdue wen theres people like Jamie Moore, John murry, kell brook, matt mackilin all still waiting on world title fights after dominating domestic level, John Simpson has never dominated domestic level

Well you dont win the lonsdale belt outright unless youve dominated the division

You do if its over a 7 year period with 7 losses between it!

billy nelson wrote:

$wifty wrote:Never knew you were offered the fight Michael, news to me that, would have been great to share a ring with ye, great fighter.

Same old from Billy, John may not have performed to his best...but do u think I did with the hand injury? I watched John at his best in Belfast John has seen nothing from me yet. I will win April 27th and go home with the British Title

No you won't!!! just make sure your there and dont pull out Stephen?

Here u go again talking your usual shite!!! When have I pulled out ever? And why would I? I was there at the press conference today, where was u? Where was John? I went to both press conferences in Glasgow last time! I have nothing to fear from John Simpson, cant wait to here what u are wafflin after this fight!

serious question,should you win this fight do you think Warren would put you in a world title fight ? If you win i would imagine that you woud get some sort of rating with the IBF etc so it could be done. all the best mate

Alba wrote:

$wifty wrote:

billy nelson wrote:Well you dont win the lonsdale belt outright unless youve dominated the division

You do if its over a 7 year period with 7 losses between it!

billy nelson wrote:No you won't!!! just make sure your there and dont pull out Stephen?

Here u go again talking your usual shite!!! When have I pulled out ever? And why would I? I was there at the press conference today, where was u? Where was John? I went to both press conferences in Glasgow last time! I have nothing to fear from John Simpson, cant wait to here what u are wafflin after this fight!

serious question,should you win this fight do you think Warren would put you in a world title fight ? If you win i would imagine that you woud get some sort of rating with the IBF etc so it could be done. all the best mate

No mate, I have not once looked past John, too much respect for him to do so......I will defend the British first and foremost!

This fight has a draw written all over it....nothing to separate the two,im having a little flutter on the draw

I thought Simpson won the first fight and has been robbd in most of his losses. I also saw it as a bad performance from John as I think he well has the beating of smith. I hope Simmo stops him this time. If he is on form like he was against Lyndsey he should do it.

Hope you don't do as much holding this time Swifty.

DaveBoyMorrison wrote:I thought Simpson won the first fight and has been robbd in most of his losses. I also saw it as a bad performance from John as I think he well has the beating of smith. I hope Simmo stops him this time. If he is on form like he was against Lyndsey he should do it.

Hope you don't do as much holding this time Swifty.

Dont upset him he might do a houdini like his brother

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:

DaveBoyMorrison wrote:I thought Simpson won the first fight and has been robbd in most of his losses. I also saw it as a bad performance from John as I think he well has the beating of smith. I hope Simmo stops him this time. If he is on form like he was against Lyndsey he should do it.

Hope you don't do as much holding this time Swifty.

Dont upset him he might do a houdini like his brother

That's certainly not my intention, this forum would be much poorer if the pros did not get involved.

billy, if i remember rightly, u stated in a diffrent topic before christmas, john will beat linsey an so will stephen, an ill will say this, not many boxers in britain have a boxing brain like stephen smith, an alot ov boxers who no him will agree. like we sed be4 the 1st fight, we will say it, an here it once again, AND THE NEWWWW.....