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Glyn Leach wrote:Exactly John, it's all in the definition. Hatton has every reason to feel pissed off, his career ended badly and he fucked up in the News of the Screws, but did he ever show signs of or complain of being depressed before then? Maybe he did but didn't mention it, but I don't remember him mentioning it.

Counter-puncher wrote:

Glyn Leach wrote:Exactly John, it's all in the definition. Hatton has every reason to feel pissed off, his career ended badly and he fucked up in the News of the Screws, but did he ever show signs of or complain of being depressed before then? Maybe he did but didn't mention it, but I don't remember him mentioning it.

he's a jack-the-lad, thats just how Ricky Hatton is.

johnswan1 wrote:Some good points raised here.

The problem for me is defining what is depression.

Sutherland had it. Of course he did - because he ended up dead over it.

Does Hatton have that same depression? Or is he having a form of the post holiday depression we all get in some form or another? You know when you go and have a brilliant holiday or do some travelling and then come back and are depressed that you have to fit back into the daily routine of the office?

What would Max Clifford say if Hatton went to him after being caught out taking drugs and shamed in a national newspaper?

"Come on young lad. Admit that you were wrong and that you are suffering depression and get yourself booked into rehab for a few weeks. By the time you come out people will go from saying what a pudendum you are to what a brave hero you are".

Didn't they say he was an alcoholic but now he says he is controlling it to only every other week? I know reformed alcoholics and they will tell you that any alcoholic who tells you he can control his drinking isn't yet ready to face up to the truth.

I can't say that Hatton doesn't suffer from depression or what the extend of such depression is but all this talk of black holes etc. - I'd imagine not everybody feels suicidal and that you don't need to be suicidal to be diagnosed with depression. People on here are saying "if you have depression it will always be there with you". I don't really agree with that. I think there are of course different levels of depression, many of which are treatable and probably curable. In many of the worst cases the depressed person portrays little sign of it before taking their own life.

There is no exact science behind it and nobody can say the only treatment is pills that are available on the NHS to try to correct a chemical imbalance. How can anybody write off the work of psychiatrists whom have worked hard to help people with depression and have achieved favourable results?

G0mez wrote:Depression is hideous.

You know you have it if you prefer to wear a dressing gown all day at the weekend instead of your jeans !

(Unless your Hugh Hefner obviously)

deadpan wrote:Lots of people really don't understand depression. Too many from the John Gregory school of empathy around here.

johnswan1 wrote:I find it very difficult to sympathise with a guy whom has earned well in excess of £10m throughout his career and has reached the pinnacle of his sport and come out the other side unharmed. I can understand in relative terms that going from being the man of the moment and being involved in so many adrenalin fuelled moments to being a has been must have an impact and will take some getting used to, but ultimately the guy has been blessed with a talent many of his peers have not had and has enjoyed highs most won't experience and has earned more money than most of them combined. Rather than tell us all about how difficult this battle has been for him, Ricky should probably be more thankful for all he has achieved and work on finding a non destructive way of enjoying himself outside of the ring. Is hitting rock bottom really getting publicly shamed for taking drugs whilst still having millions in the bank? Perhaps I'm being a little harsh here but can we really take a guy seriously when he says he has hit rock bottom yet his net worth is still in excess of £10m and himself and his family are in good health?

Glyn Leach wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:

Glyn Leach wrote:Exactly John, it's all in the definition. Hatton has every reason to feel pissed off, his career ended badly and he fucked up in the News of the Screws, but did he ever show signs of or complain of being depressed before then? Maybe he did but didn't mention it, but I don't remember him mentioning it.

he's a jack-the-lad, thats just how Ricky Hatton is.

Yep. We can pontificate all day really, and it's been enjoyable, but we don't know what the eff is going on in the fella's head.

Wrists wrote:I find it hard to understand why and british fight fan would want to knock a guy who fought the best, beat some great fighters, was fundamentally down to earth, a nice guy and someone who put the sport in the spotlight for good reasons for a number of years.

Some of the anti Hatton stuff I hear at times astounds me it really does.

What's the problem?? Oh that's right he didn't fight Junior Witter........................

Andypittcov wrote:

Wrists wrote:I find it hard to understand why and british fight fan would want to knock a guy who fought the best, beat some great fighters, was fundamentally down to earth, a nice guy and someone who put the sport in the spotlight for good reasons for a number of years.

Some of the anti Hatton stuff I hear at times astounds me it really does.

What's the problem?? Oh that's right he didn't fight Junior Witter........................

It's the British Mentality to look for the negatives in everyone and everything.