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mugabi wrote:a bloke here swears for most his early fights johhny nelson came into the ring to the song "Body Talk" by Imagination

Actually that's a very good question.

I honestly don't think that Nelson had a consistent ring entrance music.
None that I can think of offhand like, it varied as far as I can remember.

no way proper cheesey effeminate 80's soul.

The way those guys leave on a flying carpet at the end of the video, didnt naseem hamed also enter the ring on a flying carpet once?.......its uncanny the similarities in style between the 80s ingle sheffield boys and this group.

johnny nelson's themetune

'lion sleeps tonight'

funso banjo baby wrote:johnny nelson's themetune

'lion sleeps tonight'

Nelson wasn't always safety first. Check out his fight with Norbert Ekassi. Nelson went to war that night and went out on his shield.

nobby_nobbins wrote:

funso banjo baby wrote:johnny nelson's themetune

'lion sleeps tonight'

Nelson wasn't always safety first. Check out his fight with Norbert Ekassi. Nelson went to war that night and went out on his shield.

I'd love to see that

mugabi wrote:

ERIC GUY wrote:Johns music was 'funkin for jamaica' I just called him to get the answer!!!
he was pissing himself laughing about 'Imagination',

that settles it! i just won 50 quid.

nelson was one hell of a champion imo the best cruiser p4p in the world. its just defending that wbo title was so lucrative he didnt need to chase the other belts.

i just think nelson circa 2003 would have eaten the cruiser haye for breakfast

Do I get a percentage as I got you the answer!!!

mugabi wrote:imo the best cruiser p4p in the world.

Don't quite get what you mean here? He was at Cruiser so there's no p4p comparison going on with other weights.
Do you mean he was the best Cruiser ever or the best at that time? If it's the former then Evander might have something to say about that..

Deserter wrote:

mugabi wrote:imo the best cruiser p4p in the world.

Don't quite get what you mean here? He was at Cruiser so there's no p4p comparison going on with other weights.
Do you mean he was the best Cruiser ever or the best at that time? If it's the former then Evander might have something to say about that..

lol, I was going to comment on that

crusader wrote:

Deserter wrote:

mugabi wrote:imo the best cruiser p4p in the world.

Don't quite get what you mean here? He was at Cruiser so there's no p4p comparison going on with other weights.
Do you mean he was the best Cruiser ever or the best at that time? If it's the former then Evander might have something to say about that..

lol, I was going to comment on that

sorry i meant the best cruiserweight in the world when he was fighting at top level
at his best which i would make around mid 2000s.
obviously p4p he cant compare to holyfield or toney
nelson was huge for cruiser and had skill and courage.

eric thanks! drop me a pm and u can have some of the readies! hahhha

Stand By Your Man - dedicated to Adam Smith

Should say, I rated him very highly as a fighter and was disappointed/disgusted by his early world title losses, as I'm sure he is. Those performances did not reflect the man's ability at all, but were part of his nature, as witnessed by the stinker vs Akinwande at York Hall. As his self belief grew though, Johnny became a phenomenal craftsman, a fighter nobody could do anything at all with, he was always in charge. I like the man, but he let himself down badly when him and Brendan crashed Carl Thompson's post-fight interview, that was just classless. Overall though, good memories with a scattering of terrible ones within.

nelson was avery good defensive fighter but he clammed up far too many times, even during his title reign, producing some terrible fights such as vs pietro aurino, guillermo jones, etc. even during some of his better cruiserweight wins like ezra sellers and marcello dominguez, johnny took so long to actually throw a punch that the sky commentators could not hide their exasperation. this is a boxer who sometimes struggled to find the mentality to throw punches, he was far too cautious for heavyweight and this is why ppl are harsh on him.

bripez wrote:

big lennox wrote:Is this Johnny Nelson, former European and world champion, who sparred the best around and never lost his world title in the ring?The only fighter who came close to toppling him during his 6 year world title reign was G Jones, and he tested positive for steriods(and has been a success since that fight).

To me, Johnny is a huge success story, and a man of real character.How many lose 8 of their 10 amateur fights, their first 3 as a pro and then go on to dominate V Jirov in sparring amongst others, and win worthy belts at the top end of boxing, and retire after a lengthy undefeated run? Not many, I'd wager.

In fact, being very nervous and still getting in the ring indicates the very opposite of yellow to me.A brave and talented man is Johnny.

I agree with everything you say there mate.

Me too, top post.

wesley05 wrote:

Captain Hook wrote:

Pugilist-specialist wrote: You seem a little bitter about Sheffield boxers. Was this started by Nelson stopping Carl Thompson ? Naz sparking Brodie in the amateurs ? Your predictions that Moore would beat Rhodes and Jennings would beat Brook ?

Is it any wonder that Hatton steered clear of Witter ?

I'm bitter about Sheffield boxers?! I love Sheffield, went to uni in Yorkshire. Great place

I like Jennings and wanted him to beat Brook. It was unconvincing and I'd like to see a rematch.

And Moore is someone I've met on many occasions and respect a lot. Wanted him to beat Rhodes and he didn't. Was a shame, but I gave Rhodes his props. In fact I did it to his face when we met outside the Echo Arena on the night of the Smith v Quigley fight.

I do find it amusing how Sheffield fans are so blinkered, but that's to be expected.

PS Naz is one of my boxing heroes, if you carry on looking through my past posts you'll discover that. And Hatton would have walked through Witter at any point in his career. Don't flog that horse mate, it bolted years ago. Ta

Hey pal it seems to me you have a issue with Sheffield boxers big time

Get a grip pal, based on what?

I find it amusing Sheffield posters seem to be the most precious on here if you say anything against Brook, Nelson, Naz, Witter, Rhodes etc etc...but I certainly don't have an issue with Sheffield boxers. I'm just a bloke from North Wales, I don't give a toss where they're from.

On the subject of Nelson he appeared on a Tyson show here in North Wales last year, I met him and he was a lovely guy. Told an amusing story about meeting Tyson in a lift, think it was in Scotland somewhere.

PS The YELLOW song post was just a joke, maybe a little below the belt so I'll apologise to anyone offended (though why you would be is beyond me)

Nelson made amends for the poor part of his career and will be remembered fondly. I may get hold of a copy of that book on Amazon, anyone else read it?

The book is worth a read.

Glyn Leach wrote:Stand By Your Man - dedicated to Adam Smith

Should say, I rated him very highly as a fighter and was disappointed/disgusted by his early world title losses, as I'm sure he is. Those performances did not reflect the man's ability at all, but were part of his nature, as witnessed by the stinker vs Akinwande at York Hall. As his self belief grew though, Johnny became a phenomenal craftsman, a fighter nobody could do anything at all with, he was always in charge. I like the man, but he let himself down badly when him and Brendan crashed Carl Thompson's post-fight interview, that was just classless. Overall though, good memories with a scattering of terrible ones within.

Excellent post, you should write columns for a paper or magazine!

I'm a little more "sceptical" shall we say of Johnny's performances as a champion. I remember he had one or two problems vs Sellars and Dominguez (I think) on top of the Jones one, I didn't like his post fight interviews in these fight. I didn't for one minute belief it was tactical and part of a master plan and always under control. Dominguez gassed for me, Sellars got caught and well.... he lost against Jones, and lost big also. He didn't give these opponents the credit they deserved it was like "so I lost a couple of rounds, I was in control, knew it was going to happen, just took my time etc".

Sometimes he would look electric, I thought after the Thompson fight "wow, its clicking now for Johnny" - and there were some good nights for him.... Looked the biz against Rudiger May and out in Italy for his final defence, nice to get redemption as it was his first fight on a terrestial network since those dark dark days... but sadly, most of his opponents in these world title fights remind me P4P of the guys Ricky Burns has been defending against - substandard in essence.

I feel he had the talent to Unify, just a shame it never even looked close to happening.

Glyn Leach wrote:Stand By Your Man - dedicated to Adam Smith

Should say, I rated him very highly as a fighter and was disappointed/disgusted by his early world title losses, as I'm sure he is. Those performances did not reflect the man's ability at all, but were part of his nature, as witnessed by the stinker vs Akinwande at York Hall. As his self belief grew though, Johnny became a phenomenal craftsman, a fighter nobody could do anything at all with, he was always in charge. I like the man, but he let himself down badly when him and Brendan crashed Carl Thompson's post-fight interview, that was just classless. Overall though, good memories with a scattering of terrible ones within.

This one passed me by earlier......class post.

King Geedorah wrote:Mr Sandman.

This is a flippant joke by the way and is not way indicative of an anti-Sheffield agenda. I like Nelson, once asked to be formally introduced to him and called him “Mr Nelson”, much to his amusement.

What's your problem with Sheffield you Manc cu*t?!

Captain Hook wrote:PS The YELLOW song post was just a joke, maybe a little below the belt so I'll apologise to anyone offended (though why you would be is beyond me)

Nelson made amends for the poor part of his career and will be remembered fondly. I may get hold of a copy of that book on Amazon, anyone else read it?

It's a good read.

I was only playing with you earlier Hooky, but I got a good bite !

After Kell beat Jennings, your sour description of his accent "like a Wakefield hairdresser" was pure Boxrec gold !

King Geedorah wrote:

danfoster wrote:

King Geedorah wrote:Mr Sandman.

This is a flippant joke by the way and is not way indicative of an anti-Sheffield agenda. I like Nelson, once asked to be formally introduced to him and called him “Mr Nelson”, much to his amusement.

What's your problem with Sheffield you Manc cu*t?!

A bugger to get ta

I enjoy it over in't'field. Also like Nelson. He's got a smooth, jazzy presenting style, keep expecting him to break out into 'She Gave Me Potatoes Of The Night' mid-interview. I like it, I love it.

Also agree with the esteemed Big Daddy Caning GL. Nelson was frustrating but could be nice to watch and always had the beating of Thompson in my opinion. I also felt that he would have had enough to get past Big Mac. You may not believe this, but I was once asked to list some fantasy fights and plumped for Nelson versus James Toney up at cruiserweight. That is some hardcore sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet right there.

I think I've vindicated myself.

i'll let you off on the basis of that outrageously geeky choice of dream fight!

nice one - wouldnt have thought of it myself but i see where you're coming from

Pugilist-specialist wrote:

Captain Hook wrote:PS The YELLOW song post was just a joke, maybe a little below the belt so I'll apologise to anyone offended (though why you would be is beyond me)

Nelson made amends for the poor part of his career and will be remembered fondly. I may get hold of a copy of that book on Amazon, anyone else read it?

It's a good read.

I was only playing with you earlier Hooky, but I got a good bite !

After Kell beat Jennings, your sour description of his accent "like a Wakefield hairdresser" was pure Boxrec gold !

You just never know with you Sheffield lot (God I hate you people) :)

Morning, afternoon and night
We lay together side by side
Searchin' for lust, searchin' for breath
Searchin' for the touch of life

No words are spoken, the only sound we hear is
Body talk, body talk

The heat of passion is such a beautiful thing
As it overflows, pleasure grows
All the dreams it can bring

Your lips in my eyes and gentle sighs
If body talk, body talk

Cool and kind, so soft and pure, a touching moment
Heated feelings once exploded, but have melted
We were two souls torn apart with bitter ages
Through expression, not aggression, we have become one

Body talk, body talk

Cool and kind, so soft and pure, a touching moment
Heated feelings once explode but have melted
Ooh, we are two souls torn apart with bitter ages
Through expression, not aggression, we have become one

Searchin' for lust, searchin' for breath
Searchin' for the touch of life

No words are spoken, the only sound we hear
Is body talk, body talk

Body talk
Body talk
Body talk

Captain Hook wrote:
You just never know with you Sheffield lot (God I hate you people) :)

No more questions m' Lord !