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Is the Esham bout still on Mickey? You managing to get any training in with everything else that's going on? (Hope everything goes to plan with the little n and both are fit and well)

simon fox wrote:Is the Esham bout still on Mickey? You managing to get any training in with everything else that's going on? (Hope everything goes to plan with the little n and both are fit and well)

esham and me burt out play boys he thinks he still got it askin for big bucks more than he would get as a pro and little 1 due 6 days just been measured she only small we have 3 girls who do dancin and great at that they winners but this 1 going to box ha ha thanks for askin simon

My little lad was only tiny but he's caught up and is a handful; after 4 of em we ought to pitch in and buy you a telly

simon fox wrote:My little lad was only tiny but he's caught up and is a handful; after 4 of em we ought to pitch in and buy you a telly

truth was waiting for that come ha ha i know no more tempted for a little boy so can give him the belts 7 al in al they only stuck it the wardrobe you wouldnt know i even boxed you walk in my home i have even 1 fight i can show anyone mad it is going to c ed robinson next sky show i c him at to get my fight s from sky top man simon

I know Khaliq personally and have seen him toy with people in sparring. Good people too. He still does it to some active boxers. It's well noted in the local area that him and froch had a great spar. Gave froch all sorts of problems until the cobra landed an uppercut. He retired from the sport due to them not adVancing his career or getting fights. With some of the guys he fought it's worth looking at who they fought prior and then they don't seem so bad

kamicazze wrote:I know Khaliq personally and have seen him toy with people in sparring. Good people too. He still does it to some active boxers. It's well noted in the local area that him and froch had a great spar. Gave froch all sorts of problems until the cobra landed an uppercut. He retired from the sport due to them not adVancing his career or getting fights. With some of the guys he fought it's worth looking at who they fought prior and then they don't seem so bad

He was very good but you cant just say he would beat the likes of Alvarez and Berto with any sort of certainty.He would be a big underdog in both cases.As someone said,sparring is a different ball game.Again,he is a friend of yours and you obviously look up to him so i will leave it there and agree he was a very good fighter.

The success of Prizefighter and Skys continuing commitment to it has given Matchroom scope to branch out further into boxing. I think this is the key reason that they've signed up the likes of Kell and Barker, with it looking quite possible that Froch may be joining them.

I think it has to be a good thing - for too long it's been Warren and the rest; now there seems to be some serious competition with Matchroom and the Hattons building stables and being able to put on deeper, competitive cards. The should have the knock on effect of Warren having to up his game to retain his dates with Sky.

Again khaliq was promoted by tommy gilmour who is well renowned for not getting his fighters the oppurtunities they deserve. Matchroom are innocent on that side. However in the past they havent been the best advocates for boxing however it looks as if they may be about to put in a real effort. I hope so although they seem to be trying to sign established boxers rather than build new ones. Sounds a bit golden boyish. At least hattons are building

liamlion wrote:he's a promotional genius

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If you look at what he's done to darts alone, its incredible. Orient v West Ham is on the cards for next year too

kamicazze wrote:Again khaliq was promoted by tommy gilmour who is well renowned for not getting his fighters the oppurtunities they deserve. Matchroom are innocent on that side. However in the past they havent been the best advocates for boxing however it looks as if they may be about to put in a real effort. I hope so although they seem to be trying to sign established boxers rather than build new ones. Sounds a bit golden boyish. At least hattons are building

Gilmour is Matchroom's promotional partner. All Gilmour's fighters fight on Mathroom bills.

Gobbles, you seem to have some antithapy towards Matchroom.

gobbles wrote:

kamicazze wrote:Again khaliq was promoted by tommy gilmour who is well renowned for not getting his fighters the oppurtunities they deserve. Matchroom are innocent on that side. However in the past they havent been the best advocates for boxing however it looks as if they may be about to put in a real effort. I hope so although they seem to be trying to sign established boxers rather than build new ones. Sounds a bit golden boyish. At least hattons are building

Gilmour is Matchroom's promotional partner. All Gilmour's fighters fight on Mathroom bills.

your right gilmour always had some sort of say in my fights and was always ring side when i fought mr hearn was busy i know that

I didnt know matchroom and Gilmour were in cohesion. I do admit that there were so many titles at one point such as wbu, ibo, iba, wbf and so on that it kind of took the spin of it. The IBO have become more recognized since. Nowadays its international titles that are used rather than these. Nonetheless i do think James Hare, Jawaid Khaliq, and some others were quality fighters. Certainly above european level but on the fringes of world class. Jawaid himself has admitted that he would not have beat Fforest, Mosley, Antonio margarito and Zab Judah. But WBC champ at the time Jose rivera, cory Spinks, Joshua Clottey and daniel santos were the sort of guys he could have raised himself to beat. He was meant to fight WBU cham James Hare, Vernon Fforest, and WBF champ Chad Bennet at different times but never came to fruition so he was a tad bit unlucky. He also won ABA title which impresses me. Nowadays i think he would easily beat the likes of Mathew Hatton. Maybe it seems im a bit biased but this was my opinon before i knew the guy. As a boxer you can see a lot of little things he does that make the difference. Id love to hear Michael Hunters take on it or any other amateur or pro boxer for that matter.

kamicazze wrote:I didnt know matchroom and Gilmour were in cohesion. I do admit that there were so many titles at one point such as wbu, ibo, iba, wbf and so on that it kind of took the spin of it. The IBO have become more recognized since. Nowadays its international titles that are used rather than these. Nonetheless i do think James Hare, Jawaid Khaliq, and some others were quality fighters. Certainly above european level but on the fringes of world class. Jawaid himself has admitted that he would not have beat Fforest, Mosley, Antonio margarito and Zab Judah. But WBC champ at the time Jose rivera, cory Spinks, Joshua Clottey and daniel santos were the sort of guys he could have raised himself to beat. He was meant to fight WBU cham James Hare, Vernon Fforest, and WBF champ Chad Bennet at different times but never came to fruition so he was a tad bit unlucky. He also won ABA title which impresses me. Nowadays i think he would easily beat the likes of Mathew Hatton. Maybe it seems im a bit biased but this was my opinon before i knew the guy. As a boxer you can see a lot of little things he does that make the difference. Id love to hear Michael Hunters take on it or any other amateur or pro boxer for that matter.

seems strange that Khaliq didn't get them fights you talk about, was he a big ticket seller ??

Barry Hearn getting back into the sport through his son can be only a good thing for the sport

He sold out Harvey hadden a few times but I wouldn't say he was a massive ticket seller. Many of his fights relied on a decent undercard to sell a few more tickets. As he was a cabby he had a strong following there but not the kind of ticket seller that would get fights easy.

stujones wrote:huge clout worldwide? I think Barry has done fantastically well and I credit anyone who works as hard as him - but I aint convinced Matchroom is a global worldwide brand - I know they are branching out with the darts and its massive over here, but I cannot imagine the likes of Dennis Preistely being mobbed in China or America.

The Pro Box series was run here in the States during the early 90's. Always wondered why Sky didn't branch out that way.

floyd67 wrote:

stujones wrote:huge clout worldwide? I think Barry has done fantastically well and I credit anyone who works as hard as him - but I aint convinced Matchroom is a global worldwide brand - I know they are branching out with the darts and its massive over here, but I cannot imagine the likes of Dennis Preistely being mobbed in China or America.

The Pro Box series was run here in the States during the early 90's. Always wondered why Sky didn't branch out that way.

@ Kamicazze thanks for that
i liked these shows as you got to see the whole show the only thing i'd have done different is i would of got some interviews of the fighters to show just before there fight.

stujones wrote:huge clout worldwide? I think Barry has done fantastically well and I credit anyone who works as hard as him - but I aint convinced Matchroom is a global worldwide brand - I know they are branching out with the darts and its massive over here, but I cannot imagine the likes of Dennis Preistely being mobbed in China or America.

Or Mexbrough for that matter.

stujones wrote:huge clout worldwide? I think Barry has done fantastically well and I credit anyone who works as hard as him - but I aint convinced Matchroom is a global worldwide brand - I know they are branching out with the darts and its massive over here, but I cannot imagine the likes of Dennis Preistely being mobbed in China or America.

I mean more in terms of the fact their sports are televised everywhere. The Pool, Snooker, Darts, poker, tenpin etc. are all packaged together in one hour programmes and shown around the world.

While I'm not saying the dartists are world renowned stars, broadcasters and sponsors worldwide know Hearn and matchroom product.

Can only be good for the Game IMO they are a class outfit