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Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 24 Apr 2011, 09:56
by T.M.K
oliverfennell wrote:
King Geedorah wrote: literally think that every one of them has a chance, and so does my body.
I cannot think of one single fraction of an aspect in which Airich has even a fraction of a chance at a fraction of success.
Seconded. Whoever draws him for the first round will be laughing....

:TU:

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 24 Apr 2011, 10:29
by WestEndRiot
We all know how conditioned your average heavyweight is, so i think anyone securing an early ko in the first round gets an absolutely huge advantage, more so than at the other weights.

This is why until the draw is made i think anyone can win it, even Airich who didn't impress me one bit in the sole performance of his that i saw

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 24 Apr 2011, 10:32
by WestEndRiot
It's also why i'm not keen on probable favourite Kevin Johnson, who due to his style will likely have to fight 9 rounds to win it

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 24 Apr 2011, 11:19
by oliverfennell
WestEndRiot wrote:We all know how conditioned your average heavyweight is, so i think anyone securing an early ko in the first round gets an absolutely huge advantage, more so than at the other weights.

This is why until the draw is made i think anyone can win it, even Airich who didn't impress me one bit in the sole performance of his that i saw
Airich was in a similar tournament (Bigger's Better) just the other week and lost in the semi-finals despite it being populated by novices and him being the only one of any discernible pedigree.

http://www.BS.com/biggers-bett ... nso--38216

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 24 Apr 2011, 17:08
by leforge
I thought arich would get replaced after that loss. I think they need german as it going out on german tv.

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 24 Apr 2011, 21:33
by Crease
I'm going with Gomez.

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 25 Apr 2011, 06:23
by keithmoonhangover
Crease wrote:I'm going with Gomez.
x2

If there are no pull outs, then I think the winner is due a title shot or at least a final eliminator.

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 25 Apr 2011, 07:40
by WestEndRiot
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Crease wrote:I'm going with Gomez.
x2

If there are no pull outs, then I think the winner is due a title shot or at least a final eliminator.
A World title?! I don't think one of them has beaten a top 20 opponent in their career, bar Gomez a decade ago as a cruiser (Does a 40 odd year old McCall count?). And possibly Sprott vs Williams and Skelton but that's pushing it

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 25 Apr 2011, 07:52
by keithmoonhangover
WestEndRiot wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Crease wrote:I'm going with Gomez.
x2

If there are no pull outs, then I think the winner is due a title shot or at least a final eliminator.
A World title?! I don't think one of them has beaten a top 20 opponent in their career, bar Gomez a decade ago as a cruiser (Does a 40 odd year old McCall count?). And possibly Sprott vs Williams and Skelton but that's pushing it
Juan Carlos Gomez is currently ranked 9th at Heavyweight by the WBC. So potentially, the winner could well find himself in the top ten.

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 25 Apr 2011, 08:09
by SAPFO
This hopefully is the start of a revolution in boxing, with fringe world scene fighters scrapping it out and potentially earning themselves a crack at a World Title with a good showing. Add the fact it is on NORMAL SKY! What value for money! Well done Matchroom! :TU:

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 25 Apr 2011, 08:15
by keithmoonhangover
carlbcfc wrote:This hopefully is the start of a revolution in boxing, with fringe world scene fighters scrapping it out and potentially earning themselves a crack at a World Title with a good showing. Add the fact it is on NORMAL SKY! What value for money! Well done Matchroom! :TU:
x2

I wonder how much the fighters are really getting paid. Does anyone the correct figures?

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 25 Apr 2011, 09:52
by oliverfennell
King Geedorah wrote:
T.M.K wrote:
oliverfennell wrote: I cannot think of one single fraction of an aspect in which Airich has even a fraction of a chance at a fraction of success.
Seconded. Whoever draws him for the first round will be laughing....

:TU:
Yeah, I should probably have explained that a post in which I picked every single fighter to win the overall tournie using various parts of my body was made purely in jest and wasn't an actual prediction.
Quite aware of the humorous tinge, Terence, but it could well have been a jocular way to indeed say that everyone has a chance.

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 28 Apr 2011, 16:06
by crusader
The draw

Quarter-final matchups
Mike Perez vs Fres Oquendo
Kevin ‘Kingpin’ Johnson vs Gregory Tony
Michael Sprott vs Tye Fields
Juan Carlos Gomez vs Konstantin Airich

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 28 Apr 2011, 16:20
by alexpaterson
If johnson can adapt to the 3 rounds then I think he'll have to much class and win handily. Otherwise Perez's style should suit it. Should be a good night either way.

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 28 Apr 2011, 16:22
by exittored
crusader wrote:The draw

Quarter-final matchups
Mike Perez vs Fres Oquendo
Kevin ‘Kingpin’ Johnson vs Gregory Tony
Michael Sprott vs Tye Fields
Juan Carlos Gomez vs Konstantin Airich
Thats a great draw for TYE FIELDS especially to keep away from Perez, Oquendo and Johnson till final. Oquendo vs Perez is a real 50/50 for me but i'm just leaning towards Fres.

Semi's for me are:

Oquendo vs Johnson
Fields vs Gomez

Final:

Johnson vs Fields.

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 28 Apr 2011, 18:00
by WestEndRiot
After the draw i'm still favouring Perez, think Sprott has a decent shot though.

Only a week away, odds should be available soon

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 28 Apr 2011, 18:02
by keithmoonhangover
Gomez ever day of the week for me.

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 28 Apr 2011, 18:22
by stujones
WestEndRiot wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Crease wrote:I'm going with Gomez.
x2

If there are no pull outs, then I think the winner is due a title shot or at least a final eliminator.
A World title?! I don't think one of them has beaten a top 20 opponent in their career, bar Gomez a decade ago as a cruiser (Does a 40 odd year old McCall count?). And possibly Sprott vs Williams and Skelton but that's pushing it
Agree these fighters are miles away from world title fights - Kevin Johnson disgraced himself in a world title fight and Gomez has looked terrible of late. However, I think Oquendo has top 20 names on his resume - albeit a long time ago - Etteine, Izon, Harris were top twenty fighters when they fought - and he was unlucky against the likes of Toney, close against Holyfield and if memory serves me - close against Byrd for the title. Didn't people think he did enough to win that fight?

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 28 Apr 2011, 18:40
by crusader
WestEndRiot wrote:After the draw i'm still favouring Perez, think Sprott has a decent shot though.

Only a week away, odds should be available soon
Just curious why you favor Perez. He has never competed with fighters anywhere near the likes of Sprott, Oquendo, Johnson, Gomez, etc.

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 28 Apr 2011, 18:57
by WestEndRiot
crusader wrote:
WestEndRiot wrote:After the draw i'm still favouring Perez, think Sprott has a decent shot though.

Only a week away, odds should be available soon
Just curious why you favor Perez. He has never competed with fighters anywhere near the likes of Sprott, Oquendo, Johnson, Gomez, etc.
This is true, but he has beaten everyone put in front of him and you can't ask much more than that. The few fighters that have taken him the distance haven't won a single round against him.

He had terrible trouble with injuries too which i'm sure is the reason for his slow progress.

I do have to admit to some bias though, as i got to know him a little bit and see him up close in training when he was in Newcastle with McCrory, and i was very impressed with what i saw, so much natural ability.

One criticism i will throw his way is that he gets very frustrated when he can't blast them out early which could be dangerous in this format.

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 28 Apr 2011, 19:02
by crusader
Thanks for the response :TU:

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 28 Apr 2011, 19:52
by T.M.K
crusader wrote:The draw

Quarter-final matchups
Mike Perez vs Fres Oquendo
Kevin ‘Kingpin’ Johnson vs Gregory Tony
Michael Sprott vs Tye Fields
Juan Carlos Gomez vs Konstantin Airich
Semis: Perez vs Johnson and Sprott vs Gomez

Final: Perez vs Gomez

Winner: Gomez.


(Hope Sprott wins it though, just wish he'd have had at least a little 8-rounder or something since winning the last edition).

"T.M.K"

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 29 Apr 2011, 15:24
by bfchunk
Oquendo's pulled out following death of friend.

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 29 Apr 2011, 15:47
by GlobalBox
Shame he is out but more a shame for his loss, very close to the guy who has died, Kept Fres from so much early in his teens I believe, He really fancied the job and I hope
he can bounce back, he has been on the end of so many bad decisions, perhaps his connections with Haye can get him some opportunites and some well earned luck

Re: Prizefighter line up

Posted: 29 Apr 2011, 15:56
by funso banjo baby
thats bad luck

i expect some more changes yet