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Always wanted to see Eubank in there with McClellan instead of Benn.

Should have moved to Light/heavy years before, making the weight killed Him.

I'll go for Benn 1 as well but I think his best ever performance was against Denis Cronyn. He was absolutely perfect that night - every punch, every slither around the ring was poetry. It was akin to Ali's perfect performance against Cleveland Williams - flawless, beautiful and savage.

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I enjoyed his performance against Wharton.

That was a great display from him.

Wharton - he was sublime that night.

mugabi wrote:

coghaugen11 wrote:The way he got through the cute, tight peek-a-boo defences of Rocchigiani (robbed against Maske and Michalczewski after), Thornton (ranked #1 by everyone) and Malinga?

Delivering the most perfect of uppercuts to take Watson - who'd been all over him like sauce for 10-11 rounds - despite severe fatigue?

Beating Benn without a jab or guard (seemingly impossible)?

Beating Wharton toe-to-toe, one of the hardest and most naturally talented punchers out there?

Running Thompson close after jumping two weight divisions in one go and having one eye for half the fight?


Perhaps the 1st fight with Watson for the subtle skill? Or the clinical finish of Jarvis, for that punch itself?

What do you reckon boys?

eubanks had an incredible run on the fringes of the top level of 160-168 for so many years in what was the strongest period for the middleweight divisions since the 70s so it rankles me that during 88-95 he never faced a michael nunn,roy jones jnr,james toney, gerald mclellan,mike mccallum,roberto duran,sumbu kalambay, or julian jackson.it would have said a lot more if he could have faced at least 2 out of that list .

Unlike benn he didnt take on top top americans.

Anyway as it is he still put together a very very good resume just not a great one.

His best win was the benn kayo. Than the tragic watson kayo. I also rate highly the rocchigiani ,malinga, lindell holmes wins.

A fantastically strong,unorthodox fighter with sharp combinations and handspeed and courage and bottle in buckets.but he could have been so much more if he had had his mind on the job more

But mate we have to remember that Eubank was England-based, not America-based. Arum openly stated on ITV that he'd never let Nunn or Toney fight Eubank as long as he was promoting them, because he didn't have a big enough name in America to fight on pay-per-view and had too much of a difficult style to look good against. This was after Eubank had stated he wanted to fight them, and said he believed he could beat them. This was around late '92, early '93.

Eubank was the champion so it was about the other guys getting into contention, if the other champions weren't allowed to fight him.

Hearn wouldn't let McCallum fight Eubank in '91, saying 'What would he bring?'

Eubank's resume for a British fighter was outstanding. Even going back, he fought teak-tough Eric Holland in just his 4th fight and KD'd Holland for the only time in his long career. He dominated and demolished Simon Collins on a few days notice when Simon Collins had been a dangerous powerhouse pressuring hugely talented Tony Collins in a close one. He dominated Anthony Logan (WBC #16), Randy Smith and Hugo Corti (WBC #12) and demolished Jean-Noel Camara (European #6), all when he was 22-23 after 12-20 fights.

Then obviously Watson (x 2), Benn (x 2), Rocchigiani and the likes of Holmes, Malinga, Thornton - all either former/future world champions or losing only to the best lb4lb fighters. All in 39 months with Sherry (undefeated), Stretch (only ever lost on cut), Jarvis (beat Malinga), Essett (bettered most of Benn's American foes), Giminez and Close (European champion) inbetween. Unbelievable when you look back.

My choice would also be the performance against Wharton. Not just how good Eubank looked that night, but the fact Henry was fast out of the blocks instead of freezing as he did against Benn (not throwing a punch until the last second of the 5th round, which actually KD'd Benn), throwing punches right from the off and not letting up. And the fact Henry was never the same again after the beating Eubank gave him, though still managed to take out former and future world champions - underlying how dangerous he was.

Wharton was very very good, and at his absolute peak against Eubank.

coghaugen11 wrote:

mugabi wrote:

coghaugen11 wrote:The way he got through the cute, tight peek-a-boo defences of Rocchigiani (robbed against Maske and Michalczewski after), Thornton (ranked #1 by everyone) and Malinga?

Delivering the most perfect of uppercuts to take Watson - who'd been all over him like sauce for 10-11 rounds - despite severe fatigue?

Beating Benn without a jab or guard (seemingly impossible)?

Beating Wharton toe-to-toe, one of the hardest and most naturally talented punchers out there?

Running Thompson close after jumping two weight divisions in one go and having one eye for half the fight?


Perhaps the 1st fight with Watson for the subtle skill? Or the clinical finish of Jarvis, for that punch itself?

What do you reckon boys?

eubanks had an incredible run on the fringes of the top level of 160-168 for so many years in what was the strongest period for the middleweight divisions since the 70s so it rankles me that during 88-95 he never faced a michael nunn,roy jones jnr,james toney, gerald mclellan,mike mccallum,roberto duran,sumbu kalambay, or julian jackson.it would have said a lot more if he could have faced at least 2 out of that list .

Unlike benn he didnt take on top top americans.

Anyway as it is he still put together a very very good resume just not a great one.

His best win was the benn kayo. Than the tragic watson kayo. I also rate highly the rocchigiani ,malinga, lindell holmes wins.

A fantastically strong,unorthodox fighter with sharp combinations and handspeed and courage and bottle in buckets.but he could have been so much more if he had had his mind on the job more

But mate we have to remember that Eubank was England-based, not America-based. Arum openly stated on ITV that he'd never let Nunn or Toney fight Eubank as long as he was promoting them, because he didn't have a big enough name in America to fight on pay-per-view and had too much of a difficult style to look good against. This was after Eubank had stated he wanted to fight them, and said he believed he could beat them. This was around late '92, early '93.

Eubank was the champion so it was about the other guys getting into contention, if the other champions weren't allowed to fight him.

Hearn wouldn't let McCallum fight Eubank in '91, saying 'What would he bring?'

Eubank's resume for a British fighter was outstanding. Even going back, he fought teak-tough Eric Holland in just his 4th fight and KD'd Holland for the only time in his long career. He dominated and demolished Simon Collins on a few days notice when Simon Collins had been a dangerous powerhouse pressuring hugely talented Tony Collins in a close one. He dominated Anthony Logan (WBC #16), Randy Smith and Hugo Corti (WBC #12) and demolished Jean-Noel Camara (European #6), all when he was 22-23 after 12-20 fights.

Then obviously Watson (x 2), Benn (x 2), Rocchigiani and the likes of Holmes, Malinga, Thornton - all either former/future world champions or losing only to the best lb4lb fighters. All in 39 months with Sherry (undefeated), Stretch (only ever lost on cut), Jarvis (beat Malinga), Essett (bettered most of Benn's American foes), Giminez and Close (European champion) inbetween. Unbelievable when you look back.

I have to agree that his record is not as good as it could/should have been. He should have fought some of them guys at the very least. Its been said before that he turned down 1.5 million or something with in that region for the Jones jr fight but in his defence Jones jr of that time would beat anyone. Made far more financial sense to keep defending his title rather than go over to be beat up.

When did he turn down 1.5mill to fight Jones Jr in USA??

They both had mandatory challengers in Close(who failed brain scan) and Byrd before the Collins episode. I'd be amazed if he turned down £1.5m to fight Jones Jr in USA after he already lost one time to Collins.

I personally don't believe it. Jones Jr's handlers would never have splashed out that kind of money to take Eubank - unknown to American boxing fans - over to fight Jones Jr. Jones Jr wasn't generating any money in '93 and not a lot in '94, and not as much as Eubank, Benn or Collins in '95. It was Jones Jr who was desperate to come to England to fight Eubank to get some money and attention.

coghaugen11 wrote:

mugabi wrote:

coghaugen11 wrote:The way he got through the cute, tight peek-a-boo defences of Rocchigiani (robbed against Maske and Michalczewski after), Thornton (ranked #1 by everyone) and Malinga?

Delivering the most perfect of uppercuts to take Watson - who'd been all over him like sauce for 10-11 rounds - despite severe fatigue?

Beating Benn without a jab or guard (seemingly impossible)?

Beating Wharton toe-to-toe, one of the hardest and most naturally talented punchers out there?

Running Thompson close after jumping two weight divisions in one go and having
one eye for half the fight?

Perhaps the 1st fight with Watson for the subtle skill? Or the clinical finish of Jarvis, for that punch itself?

What do you reckon boys?

eubanks had an incredible run on the fringes of the top level of 160-168 for so many years in what was the strongest period for the middleweight divisions since the 70s so it rankles me that during 88-95 he never faced a michael nunn,roy jones jnr,james toney, gerald mclellan,mike mccallum,roberto duran,sumbu kalambay, or julian jackson.it would have said a lot more if he could have faced at least 2 out of that list .

Unlike benn he didnt take on top top americans.

Anyway as it is he still put together a very very good resume just not a great one.

His best win was the benn kayo. Than the tragic watson kayo. I also rate highly the rocchigiani ,malinga, lindell holmes wins.

A fantastically strong,unorthodox fighter with sharp combinations and handspeed and courage and bottle in buckets.but he could have been so much more if he had had his mind on the job more

But mate we have to remember that Eubank was England-based, not America-based. Arum openly stated on ITV that he'd never let Nunn or Toney fight Eubank as long as he was promoting them, because he didn't have a big enough name in America to fight on pay-per-view and had too much of a difficult style to look good against. This was after Eubank had stated he wanted to fight them, and said he believed he could beat them. This was around late '92, early '93.

Eubank was the champion so it was about the other guys getting into contention, if the other champions weren't allowed to fight him.

Hearn wouldn't let McCallum fight Eubank in '91, saying 'What would he bring?'

Eubank's resume for a British fighter was outstanding. Even going back, he fought teak-tough Eric Holland in just his 4th fight and KD'd Holland for the only time in his long career. He dominated and demolished Simon Collins on a few days notice when Simon Collins had been a dangerous powerhouse pressuring hugely talented Tony Collins in a close one. He dominated Anthony Logan (WBC #16), Randy Smith and Hugo Corti (WBC #12) and demolished Jean-Noel Camara (European #6), all when he was 22-23 after 12-20 fights.

Then obviously Watson (x 2), Benn (x 2), Rocchigiani and the likes of Holmes, Malinga, Thornton - all either former/future world champions or losing only to the best lb4lb fighters. All in 39 months with Sherry (undefeated), Stretch (only ever lost on cut), Jarvis (beat Malinga), Essett (bettered most of Benn's American foes), Giminez and Close (European champion) inbetween. Unbelievable when you look back.

nope michael nunn was interested in fighting eubanks or benn from an early stage. it was don king not arum who bought nunn over to england several times to watch these guys,particularly before benn-eubanks 2, it was all signed and sealed the winner would become subject to options by don king and would have to fight nunn next....of course the fight ended in a draw and that scenario didnt play out....eubanks openly stated he wouldnt fight nunn even tho a nunn -eubanks fight would have been big bucks in england with the crowds chris bought in and american tv would be covering it.

same for mccallum, eubanks didnt want him and to be fair neither did benn. mccallum bought a lot to the table, genuine recognition and a world title.

toney- eubanks tried to make this match particularly around 93 and early 94.

coghaugen11 wrote:

mugabi wrote:

coghaugen11 wrote:The way he got through the cute, tight peek-a-boo defences of Rocchigiani (robbed against Maske and Michalczewski after), Thornton (ranked #1 by everyone) and Malinga?

Delivering the most perfect of uppercuts to take Watson - who'd been all over him like sauce for 10-11 rounds - despite severe fatigue?

Beating Benn without a jab or guard (seemingly impossible)?

Beating Wharton toe-to-toe, one of the hardest and most naturally talented punchers out there?

Running Thompson close after jumping two weight divisions in one go and having one eye for half the fight?




Perhaps the 1st fight with Watson for the subtle skill? Or the clinical finish of Jarvis, for that punch itself?

What do you reckon boys?

eubanks had an incredible run on the fringes of the top level of 160-168 for so many years in what was the strongest period for the middleweight divisions since the 70s so it rankles me that during 88-95 he never faced a michael nunn,roy jones jnr,james toney, gerald mclellan,mike mccallum,roberto duran,sumbu kalambay, or julian jackson.it would have said a lot more if he could have faced at least 2 out of that list .

Unlike benn he didnt take on top top americans.

Anyway as it is he still put together a very very good resume just not a great one.

His best win was the benn kayo. Than the tragic watson kayo. I also rate highly the rocchigiani ,malinga, lindell holmes wins.

A fantastically strong,unorthodox fighter with sharp combinations and handspeed and courage and bottle in buckets.but he could have been so much more if he had had his mind on the job more

But mate we have to remember that Eubank was England-based, not America-based. Arum openly stated on ITV that he'd never let Nunn or Toney fight Eubank as long as he was promoting them, because he didn't have a big enough name in America to fight on pay-per-view and had too much of a difficult style to look good against. This was after Eubank had stated he wanted to fight them, and said he believed he could beat them. This was around late '92, early '93.

Eubank was the champion so it was about the other guys getting into contention, if the other champions weren't allowed to fight him.

Hearn wouldn't let McCallum fight Eubank in '91, saying 'What would he bring?'

Eubank's resume for a British fighter was outstanding. Even going back, he fought teak-tough Eric Holland in just his 4th fight and KD'd Holland for the only time in his long career. He dominated and demolished Simon Collins on a few days notice when Simon Collins had been a dangerous powerhouse pressuring hugely talented Tony Collins in a close one. He dominated Anthony Logan (WBC #16), Randy Smith and Hugo Corti (WBC #12) and demolished Jean-Noel Camara (European #6), all when he was 22-23 after 12-20 fights.

Then obviously Watson (x 2), Benn (x 2), Rocchigiani and the likes of Holmes, Malinga, Thornton - all either former/future world champions or losing only to the best lb4lb fighters. All in 39 months with Sherry (undefeated), Stretch (only ever lost on cut), Jarvis (beat Malinga), Essett (bettered most of Benn's American foes), Giminez and Close (European champion) inbetween. Unbelievable when you look back.

nope michael nunn was interested in fighting eubanks or benn from an early stage. it was don king not arum who bought nunn over to england several times to watch these guys,particularly before benn-eubanks 2, it was all signed and sealed the winner would become subject to options by don king and would have to fight nunn next....of course the fight ended in a draw and that scenario didnt play out....eubanks openly stated he wouldnt fight nunn even tho a nunn -eubanks fight would have been big bucks in england with the crowds chris bought in and american tv would be covering it.

same for mccallum, eubanks didnt want him and to be fair neither did benn. mccallum bought a lot to the table, genuine recognition and a world title.

toney- eubanks tried to make this match particularly around 93 and early 94.

Eubank Benn 1, and the Carl Thompson fight. Chris and Carl looked weights apart and Chris was so game. I miss Eubank and so does Boxing! Wondering if his lad is gonna be good..

mugabi wrote:

coghaugen11 wrote:

mugabi wrote: eubanks had an incredible run on the fringes of the top level of 160-168 for so many years in what was the strongest period for the middleweight divisions since the 70s so it rankles me that during 88-95 he never faced a michael nunn,roy jones jnr,james toney, gerald mclellan,mike mccallum,roberto duran,sumbu kalambay, or julian jackson.it would have said a lot more if he could have faced at least 2 out of that list .

Unlike benn he didnt take on top top americans.

Anyway as it is he still put together a very very good resume just not a great one.

His best win was the benn kayo. Than the tragic watson kayo. I also rate highly the rocchigiani ,malinga, lindell holmes wins.

A fantastically strong,unorthodox fighter with sharp combinations and handspeed and courage and bottle in buckets.but he could have been so much more if he had had his mind on the job more

But mate we have to remember that Eubank was England-based, not America-based. Arum openly stated on ITV that he'd never let Nunn or Toney fight Eubank as long as he was promoting them, because he didn't have a big enough name in America to fight on pay-per-view and had too much of a difficult style to look good against. This was after Eubank had stated he wanted to fight them, and said he believed he could beat them. This was around late '92, early '93.

Eubank was the champion so it was about the other guys getting into contention, if the other champions weren't allowed to fight him.

Hearn wouldn't let McCallum fight Eubank in '91, saying 'What would he bring?'

Eubank's resume for a British fighter was outstanding. Even going back, he fought teak-tough Eric Holland in just his 4th fight and KD'd Holland for the only time in his long career. He dominated and demolished Simon Collins on a few days notice when Simon Collins had been a dangerous powerhouse pressuring hugely talented Tony Collins in a close one. He dominated Anthony Logan (WBC #16), Randy Smith and Hugo Corti (WBC #12) and demolished Jean-Noel Camara (European #6), all when he was 22-23 after 12-20 fights.

Then obviously Watson (x 2), Benn (x 2), Rocchigiani and the likes of Holmes, Malinga, Thornton - all either former/future world champions or losing only to the best lb4lb fighters. All in 39 months with Sherry (undefeated), Stretch (only ever lost on cut), Jarvis (beat Malinga), Essett (bettered most of Benn's American foes), Giminez and Close (European champion) inbetween. Unbelievable when you look back.

nope michael nunn was interested in fighting eubanks or benn from an early stage. it was don king not arum who bought nunn over to england several times to watch these guys,particularly before benn-eubanks 1, it was all signed and sealed the winner would become subject to options by don king and would have to fight nunn next....of course the fight ended in a draw and that scenario didnt play out....eubanks openly stated he wouldnt fight nunn even tho a nunn -eubanks fight would have been big bucks in england with the crowds chris bought in and american tv would be covering it.

same for mccallum, eubanks didnt want him and to be fair neither did benn. mccallum bought a lot to the table, genuine recognition and a world title.

toney- eubanks tried to make this match particularly around 93 and early 94.

Sorry dude but you have your facts completely wrong.

Nunn had nothing to do with King until '93.

Eubank stated he wanted to fight McCallum in 1990, and thought he would beat him. Eubank did openly state that he wouldn't fight Nunn, though, and that he probably wouldn't beat him.

coghaugen11 wrote:

mugabi wrote:

coghaugen11 wrote: But mate we have to remember that Eubank was England-based, not America-based. Arum openly stated on ITV that he'd never let Nunn or Toney fight Eubank as long as he was promoting them, because he didn't have a big enough name in America to fight on pay-per-view and had too much of a difficult style to look good against. This was after Eubank had stated he wanted to fight them, and said he believed he could beat them. This was around late '92, early '93.

Eubank was the champion so it was about the other guys getting into contention, if the other champions weren't allowed to fight him.

Hearn wouldn't let McCallum fight Eubank in '91, saying 'What would he bring?'

Eubank's resume for a British fighter was outstanding. Even going back, he fought teak-tough Eric Holland in just his 4th fight and KD'd Holland for the only time in his long career. He dominated and demolished Simon Collins on a few days notice when Simon Collins had been a dangerous powerhouse pressuring hugely talented Tony Collins in a close one. He dominated Anthony Logan (WBC #16), Randy Smith and Hugo Corti (WBC #12) and demolished Jean-Noel Camara (European #6), all when he was 22-23 after 12-20 fights.

Then obviously Watson (x 2), Benn (x 2), Rocchigiani and the likes of Holmes, Malinga, Thornton - all either former/future world champions or losing only to the best lb4lb fighters. All in 39 months with Sherry (undefeated), Stretch (only ever lost on cut), Jarvis (beat Malinga), Essett (bettered most of Benn's American foes), Giminez and Close (European champion) inbetween. Unbelievable when you look back.

nope michael nunn was interested in fighting eubanks or benn from an early stage. it was don king not arum who bought nunn over to england several times to watch these guys,particularly before benn-eubanks 2, it was all signed and sealed the winner would become subject to options by don king and would have to fight nunn next....of course the fight ended in a draw and that scenario didnt play out....eubanks openly stated he wouldnt fight nunn even tho a nunn -eubanks fight would have been big bucks in england with the crowds chris bought in and american tv would be covering it.

same for mccallum, eubanks didnt want him and to be fair neither did benn. mccallum bought a lot to the table, genuine recognition and a world title.

toney- eubanks tried to make this match particularly around 93 and early 94.

Sorry dude but you have your facts completely wrong.

Nunn had nothing to do with King until '93.

Eubank stated he wanted to fight McCallum in 1990, and thought he would beat him. Eubank did openly state that he wouldn't fight Nunn, though, and that he probably wouldn't beat him.

you wanna talk about facts but seem to make it up as u go along. i said nunn was bought over by don king before benn-eubanks 2 to england with the winner signed to meet nunn.......of course that fight was in 1993 so whats your point about nunn wasnt with king till 93?

provide some proof/reference eubanks wanted mccallum in 90 please

mugabi wrote:

coghaugen11 wrote:

mugabi wrote: nope michael nunn was interested in fighting eubanks or benn from an early stage. it was don king not arum who bought nunn over to england several times to watch these guys,particularly before benn-eubanks 1, it was all signed and sealed the winner would become subject to options by don king and would have to fight nunn next....of course the fight ended in a draw and that scenario didnt play out....eubanks openly stated he wouldnt fight nunn even tho a nunn -eubanks fight would have been big bucks in england with the crowds chris bought in and american tv would be covering it.

same for mccallum, eubanks didnt want him and to be fair neither did benn. mccallum bought a lot to the table, genuine recognition and a world title.

toney- eubanks tried to make this match particularly around 93 and early 94.

Sorry dude but you have your facts completely wrong.

Nunn had nothing to do with King until '93.

Eubank stated he wanted to fight McCallum in 1990, and thought he would beat him. Eubank did openly state that he wouldn't fight Nunn, though, and that he probably wouldn't beat him.

you wanna talk about facts but seem to make it up as u go along. i said nunn was bought over by don king before benn-eubanks 2 to england with the winner signed to meet nunn.......of course that fight was in 1993 so whats your point about nunn wasnt with king till 93?

provide some proof/reference eubanks wanted mccallum in 90 please

Lol nice little edit ;)

It was in Boxing News and his ITV post-fight interviews.

For example after he fought Hugo Corti he said he wanted the winner of Watson-McCallum and believed he would beat either of them because 'their feet are far too heavy to deal with my dancing and moving', he also said the only two fighters in the world he wouldn't be confident of beating were Herol Graham and Michael Nunn.

And after he fought Eduardo Contreras, he said his next fight would be against either McCallum for the WBA title or Jackson for the vacant WBC title, and 'I'm sure they're not as slippery as this opponent was - infact, I know they're not, I've studied them.'

Infact McCallum-Eubank was set for the same night as Benn-Barkley! But they never got it signed and sealed due to contractual difficulties on McCallum's side.

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This thread illustrates the problem you get when you try to establish facts based on things that Eubank said. Eubank often talked nonsense that he made up on the spur of the moment and he regularly contradicted himself. He did indeed say he wanted to fight McCallum. He said it in response to a question from me at a press conference in the run-up to Benn-Eubank. But once he had a belt round his waist and he discovered he could make terrific money facing second-rate jokers, he wanted no part of him. Mike actually followed Eubank around for a while to publically challenge him - pretty rich when he was the more legitimate champion - but Eubank virtually ignored him. At a press conference after the first Eubank-Watson fight, McCallum turned up and said he would "take his space, break his face and chop off his head". At that stage, Eubank was acutely aware that as a badly weight-drained middleweight, going in with the most feared body puncher in the world would have been suicide.

Eubank could make much more money fighting Stretch and Watson. McCallum had no American TV backing him. Not Eubank's fault really.

Also Eubank had internal injuries post-Benn I and post-Watson I so would've been plain idiotic to tackle the best body puncher in the business directly after either.

And Eubank certainly wasn't trying to make a Toney fight throughout '93 or early '94, mugabi. He was in talks with Don King and SKY TV around those times - Toney wasn't affiliated with King and King's Showtime tournament proposition, and the SKY offer was about a one-year eight-fight tour for eight-figure income (in which Eubank did indeed express an interest to fight Toney at the end of it in Jul '95 provided they both carried on winning - infact it may of even been written into the contract in some capacity), so had he fought Toney in 'early 94' there was a strong chance he'd lose his world title and unbeaten record and thus ruining everything.

You originally mentioned, before editing your post, that Nunn was with King in 1990. No, son, not until '93. Arum had Nunn (though he was managed by Goosen) until then. Arum also had Toney (though he was managed by Kallen), who never went with King in the 90s.

coghaugen11 wrote:Eubank could make much more money fighting Stretch and Watson. McCallum had no American TV backing him. Not Eubank's fault really.

Also Eubank had internal injuries post-Benn I and post-Watson I so would've been plain idiotic to tackle the best body puncher in the business directly after either.

What internal injuries did he have coghaugen, broken ribs?

I think he said bruised ribs and ruptured organs (urinating blood) after Benn I, and a broken sternum after Watson I.

coghaugen11 wrote:I think he said bruised ribs and ruptured organs (urinating blood) after Benn I, and a broken sternum after Watson I.

Broken Sternum? Ouch! Lol it takes a certain character to collect an injury like that and still go back for more.

Eubank had such a great right uppercut --he got in tonnes of terrific ones on Benn and a tragic one on Watson. I don't think he used it again for about a year and a half or more after the Watson tragedy, but poor Ray Close caught it off the ropes when Eubank pulled it up from short range and dropped big Ray. He got it through the high southpaw guard of Rocchigiani quite a fair few times and Calzaghe shipped some too. --Earlier on on his stoppage run in 89-90 it was the right uppercut that did all the damage for him. So untelegraphed.