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Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 08 May 2011, 14:25
by black panther
the truth wrote:What you on about opponents weren't the best? Manswell had one loss, Tony and one loss
Fields had three losses out of 47 wins with 45 kos, all were fringe contenders and he obliterated them, so if fury has kod fields in 40 secs you wouldn't be impressed?
This guys for real
I was impressed by him mate but come on. Sure those guys had great
looking records but on closer inspection they have been knocked out everytime they took a significant step up in class. Manswell was knocked out badly by Stieverne in 2 rounds who in turn was stopped by journeyman Demetrice King. Fields is great at knocking over journeymen, hence his great statistical record but
everytime he has fought someone who is near their prime and a step up in class he has been ko'ed in shocking fashion. (Monte Barrett, Michael Grant).
Good wins for Perez at this stage if his career for sure but hardly "fringe contenders" as you make out.
Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 08 May 2011, 15:00
by whiskey
I heard his spars with Fury were good for both men.
Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 08 May 2011, 15:47
by StevenB
I was impressed with his handspeed and agression. He's clearly got some skills, for me the obvious questions have to be around his conditioning and his will for a real fight...the Cubans aren't shy of the high life are they 8)
If Price, Fury or Chisora had performed like that, people would be going nuts. He dealt comforatably with what was infront of him, and Fields and Tony, whilst not worldbeaters are decent opponents by heavyweight standards. Again, what I really liked was his willingness to get involved, might cost him at the top level but it's going to be fun watching him along the way.
If he stays fit and motivated, I think he could challenge for an alphabet title no problem...
Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 10 May 2011, 06:41
by JDC
Get him in with Rogan. It would sell out in Ireland
Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 10 May 2011, 07:04
by Captain Hook
It wouldn't last five minutes...
Good fighter, exciting......which is what the division needs.
Think he would bomb out most heavies pretty quickly, barring the elite (Klit bros, Haye et al) and someone with a good defence who could keep him on the end of a stiff jab, like Price.
Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 10 May 2011, 07:28
by johnswan1
He is no Tyson but he'll probably be good enough to be the man of the division when the K's and Haye are gone. I get the impression that he likes doing things his own way though so much would depend on his dedication in training.
Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 10 May 2011, 07:30
by apophenic
johnswan1 wrote:He is no Tyson but he'll probably be good enough to be the man of the division when the K's and Haye are gone. I get the impression that he likes doing things his own way though so much would depend on his dedication in training.
yes...richie woodhall didnt seem exacly enthusiastic about him when it was mentioned that he used to train him....
'talented' was as far as he apparently wanted to commit himself...which speaks volumes imo.
Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 10 May 2011, 07:40
by Happy Slapper
He looked good but it's difficult to say how far he'll go as Prizefighter is a funny format.
If I had to stick my neck out I think he's got a great chance once the K's and Haye have gone.
He looked more impressive than any of the current crop of British heavies, Chisora, Fury and Price included.
Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 10 May 2011, 09:25
by mrbassie
There are a few of his early fights on youtube if anybody hasn't seen him before. They don't tell you much about him other than he can punch.
Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 10 May 2011, 09:30
by mickey1975
apophenic wrote:johnswan1 wrote:He is no Tyson but he'll probably be good enough to be the man of the division when the K's and Haye are gone. I get the impression that he likes doing things his own way though so much would depend on his dedication in training.
yes...richie woodhall didnt seem exacly enthusiastic about him when it was mentioned that he used to train him....
'talented' was as far as he apparently wanted to commit himself...which speaks volumes imo.
Glenn McCrory, and i think its pretty clear he knows just how talented Perez is and is probably incredibly frustrated he never knuckled down for him. I watched a programme on all the effort Glenn went to to bring the Cubans over, and a lot of expense. I would imagine he feels pretty cheated to be honest.
Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 10 May 2011, 09:34
by SAPFO
mickey1975 wrote:apophenic wrote:johnswan1 wrote:He is no Tyson but he'll probably be good enough to be the man of the division when the K's and Haye are gone. I get the impression that he likes doing things his own way though so much would depend on his dedication in training.
yes...richie woodhall didnt seem exacly enthusiastic about him when it was mentioned that he used to train him....
'talented' was as far as he apparently wanted to commit himself...which speaks volumes imo.
Glenn McCrory, and i think its pretty clear he knows just how talented Perez is and is probably incredibly frustrated he never knuckled down for him. I watched a programme on all the effort Glenn went to to bring the Cubans over, and a lot of expense. I would imagine he feels pretty cheated to be honest.
He did not say much on the subject did he Glen.
Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 10 May 2011, 11:39
by Lenny
If he stays in the UK & Ireland, then I hope he finds it easier than most imports to fight the top domestic opposition and not stagnate for year upon year
My bet is he moves to either Germany or the States and gets fats
Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 10 May 2011, 12:03
by apophenic
mickey1975 wrote:apophenic wrote:johnswan1 wrote:He is no Tyson but he'll probably be good enough to be the man of the division when the K's and Haye are gone. I get the impression that he likes doing things his own way though so much would depend on his dedication in training.
yes...richie woodhall didnt seem exacly enthusiastic about him when it was mentioned that he used to train him....
'talented' was as far as he apparently wanted to commit himself...which speaks volumes imo.
Glenn McCrory, and i think its pretty clear he knows just how talented Perez is and is probably incredibly frustrated he never knuckled down for him. I watched a programme on all the effort Glenn went to to bring the Cubans over, and a lot of expense. I would imagine he feels pretty cheated to be honest.
you know i wrote glen mac to start with and then doubted myself and (in) corrected it to richie w....
i thought that glenn was in vegas to cover the manny / shane fight?
Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 10 May 2011, 12:10
by the truth
Mcrory didn't bring the cubans over not the pros
He brought two Cuban amateur coaches over
The 3 pros were trained by him for a bit under nowhere Hyde promotions
Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 10 May 2011, 13:30
by mickey1975
the truth wrote:Mcrory didn't bring the cubans over not the pros
He brought two Cuban amateur coaches over
The 3 pros were trained by him for a bit under nowhere Hyde promotions
I remember the coaches now you say.
Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 10 May 2011, 14:20
by crusader
Very impressive in Prizefighter, but I want to see him against a top 25 opponent in a full length bout before talking about his success at the highest level. I think it is too early to say that he will be the "man" outside of the Klits and Haye. Certainly looks promising though.
Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 12 May 2011, 06:27
by Shirow
I have to admit that it was the first time i had seen Perez but i wasn't impressed as a lot of you seem to have been. Was he particularly sloppy because he knew all the fights were sprints?
His stone faced total confidence was impressive & reminded me a lot of Rigondeaux but i didn't see anything like the same technique to back it up. What has he shown before to prove his isn't just another welcome addition to the domestic mix?
Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 12 May 2011, 07:06
by SAPFO
None of our crop strike fear into their opponents the way Perez did on Saturday. They just did not want to know when he was coming at them.
Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 16 May 2011, 17:35
by Champfan10
What about Perez v A-force?
Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 16 May 2011, 18:12
by jBacca
I think Pricey stands the best chance against Perez but he'd have to get him out there quick because that overhand-right that the Cuban loves throwing, would be perfect against my fellow Scouser and his low left hand guard.
Re: How far can Mike Perez go?
Posted: 21 May 2011, 08:49
by SAPFO
Champfan10 wrote:What about Perez v A-force?
Perez TKO1
He is the kind of fighter that Audley has nightmares about