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Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 21 May 2011, 23:08
by Gray-Fox
growling?
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 21 May 2011, 23:21
by ttornado
bengulnaci1 wrote:I though Jim Watt was ok, not sure what he said that was so wrong.
He scored it for DeGale by one point, which, it could have very easily gone that way.
It was a close fight and Watt did a decent job. Not sure why he is coming in for stick, here.
Nelson was alittle OTT, sure but he obviously really wanted DeGale to win. He just needs to learn to be a little more objective.
PS More Adam Smith growling
Someone needs to show this guy how to conduct interviews. Bring back Gary Newbon.
It's sky they thought DeGale would win, like most punters did, so it was just building the fighter who they thought would win and make them the easiest multi-multi-millions as degale can fornicating talk and sell a fight. while groves is a very good prospect his not a box office personality. although his fists can change that :)
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 22 May 2011, 02:49
by m1kee50
bengulnaci1 wrote:I though Jim Watt was ok, not sure what he said that was so wrong.
He scored it for DeGale by one point, which, it could have very easily gone that way.
It was a close fight and Watt did a decent job. Not sure why he is coming in for stick, here.
Nelson was alittle OTT, sure but he obviously really wanted DeGale to win. He just needs to learn to be a little more objective.
PS More Adam Smith growling
Someone needs to show this guy how to conduct interviews. Bring back Gary Newbon.
I thought Watt had forgotten Groves' name, he only seemed to mention anything with reference to Degale.
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 22 May 2011, 06:19
by palooka
jonp wrote:Im starting to enjoy the verbal fights between barry and Nelson more than the boxing.
"Let me finish Johnny"
" Listen to this"
Nelson tapping im on the leg to get in
And the stares when the other is making a good point
Its effing brilliant
There does seem to be a little bit of petty jealousy going on
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 22 May 2011, 07:12
by Happy Slapper
Jim Watt and Nelson were disgraceful. Watt makes his imnd up who has won before a punch is thrown. It was a close fight but how anyone could score that for DeGale is absolutely beyond me. It was close but clear.
Credit to Adam Booth, his gameplan was genius. DeGale needs to sack McDonnell. He looked amateurish.
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 22 May 2011, 07:16
by supacook2k
What did nelson say thats getting this reaction?
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 22 May 2011, 08:43
by Finn
im not bothered i'd rather see pundits give their oppinions rather than sit on the fence. We all thought the same thing.
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 22 May 2011, 08:51
by MightyWarrior
MachoMan09 wrote:When it comes to studio pundits, two's company three's a crowd. An anchor + 2 in the studio is enough. It was too crowded in there last night and, as a result, terrible.
McGuigan is the best in the (UK) business but his product is badly degraded when he is in a crowded room.
Nelson has shown potential but needs re-educating on how to conduct himself. He needs to be briefed on the concept of neutrality and also to calm the eff down. If he doesn't improve quickly, he should go. He was very poor indeed last night.
Calzaghe is not suited to that job at all.
Dave Darts needs to get a grip of the pundits and control the studio. If he can't do that, they need to bring in somebody who can.
Yep well said, Darts is useless, needs to be sent packing asap, and Nelson is just embarassing, master of the obvious and painful to watch.
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 22 May 2011, 08:53
by banjo
bengulnaci1 wrote:I though Jim Watt was ok, not sure what he said that was so wrong.
He scored it for DeGale by one point, which, it could have very easily gone that way.
It was a close fight and Watt did a decent job. Not sure why he is coming in for stick, here.
Nelson was alittle OTT, sure but he obviously really wanted DeGale to win. He just needs to learn to be a little more objective.
PS More Adam Smith growling
Someone needs to show this guy how to conduct interviews. Bring back Gary Newbon.
Where is Newbon these days? He still doing that Sky Sports phone in? Speaking of which it was hilarious that time when somebody called up and called him a c*nt live on air.
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 22 May 2011, 08:56
by palooka
banjo wrote:bengulnaci1 wrote:I though Jim Watt was ok, not sure what he said that was so wrong.
He scored it for DeGale by one point, which, it could have very easily gone that way.
It was a close fight and Watt did a decent job. Not sure why he is coming in for stick, here.
Nelson was alittle OTT, sure but he obviously really wanted DeGale to win. He just needs to learn to be a little more objective.
PS More Adam Smith growling
Someone needs to show this guy how to conduct interviews. Bring back Gary Newbon.
Where is Newbon these days? He still doing that Sky Sports phone in? Speaking of which it was
hilarious that time when somebody called up and called him a c*nt live on air.
I wonder if it was the same kid who called Five Star 'f ing crap' on a phone in
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 22 May 2011, 08:58
by banjo
simon fox wrote:banjo wrote:bengulnaci1 wrote:I though Jim Watt was ok, not sure what he said that was so wrong.
He scored it for DeGale by one point, which, it could have very easily gone that way.
It was a close fight and Watt did a decent job. Not sure why he is coming in for stick, here.
Nelson was alittle OTT, sure but he obviously really wanted DeGale to win. He just needs to learn to be a little more objective.
PS More Adam Smith growling
Someone needs to show this guy how to conduct interviews. Bring back Gary Newbon.
Where is Newbon these days? He still doing that Sky Sports phone in? Speaking of which it was
hilarious that time when somebody called up and called him a c*nt live on air.
I wonder if it was the same kid who called Five Star 'f ing crap' on a phone in
Think the callers name was Ben, the video is on youtube still I think.
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 22 May 2011, 09:00
by palooka
Did someone get Keith Chegwin as well?
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 22 May 2011, 09:53
by split_decision
Are people only just realising this? I've had a major problem with this for quite some time. The marquee fighter is always the one they commentate on. "Degale needs to do this" or "Thats better from Degale". Very rare you see much credit given towards the other man in the ring. Im resigned to thinking thats just typical british commentary though.
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 22 May 2011, 09:55
by banjo
split_decision wrote:Are people only just realising this? I've had a major problem with this for quite some time. The marquee fighter is always the one they commentate on. "Degale needs to do this" or "Thats better from Degale". Very rare you see much credit given towards the other man in the ring. Im resigned to thinking thats just typical british commentary though.
It's common with most companies, like HBO with their star names.
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 22 May 2011, 11:41
by Teddy's Toupee
simon fox wrote:banjo wrote:bengulnaci1 wrote:I though Jim Watt was ok, not sure what he said that was so wrong.
He scored it for DeGale by one point, which, it could have very easily gone that way.
It was a close fight and Watt did a decent job. Not sure why he is coming in for stick, here.
Nelson was alittle OTT, sure but he obviously really wanted DeGale to win. He just needs to learn to be a little more objective.
PS More Adam Smith growling
Someone needs to show this guy how to conduct interviews. Bring back Gary Newbon.
Where is Newbon these days? He still doing that Sky Sports phone in? Speaking of which it was
hilarious that time when somebody called up and called him a c*nt live on air.
I wonder if it was the same kid who called Five Star 'f ing crap' on a phone in
And called "Matt Bianco" wankers on Swap Shop.
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 22 May 2011, 11:43
by palooka
Could it all be the work of an insane genius?
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 22 May 2011, 19:15
by Bricks
DIRT SUGAR wrote:Wish Nelson had shown as much fire in his fights as he does when giving his opinion on a fighter/fight, he'd still be champion today! He's the only fighter to this day that has genuinely nearly made me fall to sleep. A real snorefest and to this day I actually can't remember what happened from round six to round 11 of said fight! I'm not joking either!
if he had growled and forced his delivery as much as a fighter as he does as a commentator he could have been hw champ too.
Growl....growl.....growl.......
Im sure adam smith-he of the gay side glances and feline like back straightning gestures- puts him up to it......tells him to growl every time he opens his mouth.....
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 22 May 2011, 19:20
by Bricks
leforge wrote:Nelson is a twat saw him geting make up on before they went live knob!
i bet he was listening to "body talk" by imagination while they were putting the make up on........i do agree i felt degale would batter groves even tho i longed for jimmy to lose.....so we should take it easy on johhny......it isnt johhny who needs to go ,joking aside i like jonny as a pundit......its mcrory who should go.......he was the one who started this fashion of growling forced delivery pundity on sky.....the way he talked through the ring entrances last night for pascal-hopkins , he deserved to be bottled by a group of teenage thugs in a north east boozer for the way he did that.......
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 22 May 2011, 19:25
by Bricks
simon fox wrote:Could it all be the work of an insane genius?
i confess i am the hidden hand behind all these great moments in time.....it was also me who called julia bradbury a "cccunt" on watchdog.....
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 22 May 2011, 20:30
by Gray-Fox
LOL @ McGuigan being good.
Jim Watt is the best when he isn't being biased, same with Johnny actually. The rest know sweet FA about boxing.
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 23 May 2011, 05:46
by Ezzard
I like Nelson and don't mind the pundits championing a man (as long as it's one each). But totally agree the commentating seemed very biased as they described the action.
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 23 May 2011, 06:01
by apophenic
Im sure adam smith-he of the gay side glances and feline like back straightning gestures
on a side note reference growling - my missus accused me of growling at some bit of totty whilst i was driving thru town last week...she said she doesn't mind me checking em out but draws the line at growling...
i was humming along to a tune on the radio ffs....honest.
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 23 May 2011, 06:09
by Glyn Leach
I think they kind of set it up to have Barry pro one fighter, Johnny pro the other, just to get some sort of debate going. Remember the Haye-Harrison fight where Nelson had the short end of the stick and had to make a case for Auds?
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 23 May 2011, 06:21
by Captain Hook
kingfinn wrote:oh come on we all agreed with nelson and thought groves would get a pasting before the fight. I find it funny now people are claiming nelson was disrespectful.
We didn't all think that, I put cash on a Groves decision and am thrilled he did it.
Nelson and co were embarrassing, I get the feeling he had never seen Groves even fight.
Unbeaten talent, very good boxer with lots of power......and was completely written off by most.
DeGale is all talk.....
Re: Nelson and Commentry team so disrespectful to Groves
Posted: 23 May 2011, 08:47
by subsy
Fat Git wrote:gazza8 wrote:
and during the fight any similtanious shots were only Degale landing!
was this just me who noticed?
Absolutely right with that. I don't know what Watt and Darke were watching.
Yep, was really annoying