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Finch wrote:

JediKnight wrote:DeGale is going nowhere he lost to a big underdog (11/4)! He'll be working in McDonalds next week, just like that fella that one the silver medal and got spanked by the Columbian. You can't possibly win a world title after losing so early on in your career! Name me 1 person that has

Hopkins & Nelson lost their first fights.

Try Alexis Arguello!

McCannW14 wrote:

Finch wrote:

JediKnight wrote:DeGale is going nowhere he lost to a big underdog (11/4)! He'll be working in McDonalds next week, just like that fella that one the silver medal and got spanked by the Columbian. You can't possibly win a world title after losing so early on in your career! Name me 1 person that has

Hopkins & Nelson lost their first fights.

Try Alexis Arguello!

I think you're missing something

Barry McGuigan

David Haye (Thompson was 3/1 just like Groves)

edit just realised they have merged the threads got confused there for a minute

McCannW14 wrote:

kingfinn wrote:Im hearing alot of people writting degale off now.

If he gets the experience and training to match his talent he's easily going to achieve world honours.

He didnt really do anything that wrong he just got baffled by groves tactics and style - his team are more to blame for that than him. He's a 11 fight novice not a seasoned pro. I doubt he's even operating at 60% of his potential.

Its not like he got ko'd or schooled he lost by a point.

They were both poor. Imagine what Froch would do to them. The mind boggles

i think we have to be realistic about what stage in their careers fighters are at. froch is an established champion where as degale and groves are talented novices, give it a year or two and id expect them to be gaining world honours.

Finch wrote:

JediKnight wrote:DeGale is going nowhere he lost to a big underdog (11/4)! He'll be working in McDonalds next week, just like that fella that one the silver medal and got spanked by the Columbian. You can't possibly win a world title after losing so early on in your career! Name me 1 person that has

Hopkins & Nelson lost their first fights.

he's clearly joking and using khan as an example

kingfinn wrote:

Finch wrote:

JediKnight wrote:DeGale is going nowhere he lost to a big underdog (11/4)! He'll be working in McDonalds next week, just like that fella that one the silver medal and got spanked by the Columbian. You can't possibly win a world title after losing so early on in your career! Name me 1 person that has

Hopkins & Nelson lost their first fights.

he's clearly joking and using khan as an example

It's Sunday we're all too hungover for irony.

Degale is as good now as he will ever be.

He is pretty much the finished article.

Wheras Groves can adapt and grow into a man. He has the correct mindset and humble approach to concentrate entirely on his game.

G0mez wrote:Degale is as good now as he will ever be.

He is pretty much the finished article.

Please tell me you don't actually believe this

lefthook82 wrote:

G0mez wrote:Degale is as good now as he will ever be.

He is pretty much the finished article.

Please tell me you don't actually believe this

no way is he the finished article - booth even said that after the fight.

lefthook82 wrote:

G0mez wrote:Degale is as good now as he will ever be.

He is pretty much the finished article.

Please tell me you don't actually believe this

DeGale can improve lots and lots. With his feet on the ground and with a bit of the rough, (instead of being the feted Golden Boy). He may need a big challenge and the fall of last night may be a very good thing for him.

There are consequences for being a dick before a fight and then losing the high profile PPV bout; he can rebuild but it will take him a bit of time to get back on track. No way should George rematch him; it is not a charity! James will have to work his tail off to get up there and hopefully he will be a much more pleasant and respectful man; someone we would want to win, who we could get behind and support.

simon fox wrote:

lefthook82 wrote:

G0mez wrote:Degale is as good now as he will ever be.

He is pretty much the finished article.

Please tell me you don't actually believe this

DeGale can improve lots and lots. With his feet on the ground and with a bit of the rough, (instead of being the feted Golden Boy). He may need a big challenge and the fall of last night may be a very good thing for him.

There are consequences for being a dick before a fight and then losing the high profile PPV bout; he can rebuild but it will take him a bit of time to get back on track. No way should George rematch him; it is not a charity! James will have to work his tail off to get up there and hopefully he will be a much more pleasant and respectful man; someone we would want to win, who we could get behind and support.

booth seemed to be clearly hinting at the possibility of a rematch much further down the line during the ringside interview.

Scrap wrote:Plus His pscyhcodinamics arnt as ingrained as Degales.

How many days have you spent with Groves and DeGale to know to the state of their psychodynamics. Understanding the state of an individuals ego, id and superego isn't a quick process.

You need to do a lot more than beat Paul Smith to be 'potential world class'. Sorry.

He may get there in the end, but Saturday night showed just how carried away we all get.

McCannW14 wrote:

kingfinn wrote:Im hearing alot of people writting degale off now.

If he gets the experience and training to match his talent he's easily going to achieve world honours.

He didnt really do anything that wrong he just got baffled by groves tactics and style - his team are more to blame for that than him. He's a 11 fight novice not a seasoned pro. I doubt he's even operating at 60% of his potential.

Its not like he got ko'd or schooled he lost by a point.

They were both poor. Imagine what Froch would do to them. The mind boggles

That's true, but to be fair to both of them, they're about 2.5 years off being in Carl Froch's league & that's if they have the talent to go that far.

The Dark Destroyer wrote:

bengulnaci1 wrote:DeGale is still a class fighter. If these guys meet again, I am not so sure James will win. George will get better, as will James.

George is got a good team and a good attitude, he will do ok.

I disagree. I think we saw Groves give everything he had tonight, and saw half of what Degale has.

If degale was that good he would have dominated groves, he didn't, he's a prospect no doubt, but he needs to stop the insults, get his head down and start again.

The Dark Destroyer wrote:
He barely did anything for the first six rounds. With a better trainer he would have won last night.

This...

I think DeGale with a more focused attitude and trainer (not that cheerleader McDonnell) can deliver at the highest level.

JediKnight wrote:DeGale is going nowhere he lost to a big underdog (11/4)! He'll be working in McDonalds next week, just like that fella that one the silver medal and got spanked by the Columbian. You can't possibly win a world title after losing so early on in your career! Name me 1 person that has

WTF is this. Poor attempt at humour.