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Re: Fury - Chisora PPV Question.
Posted: 24 May 2011, 11:11
by stujones
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:stujones wrote:Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
It's an interesting question mate. I get the feeling they are the types that will price it at £15 or not do it at all.
Primetime? They have done cheaper PPV's in the past - Holyfield vs Botha, Steiglitz vs Ornelas etc and they have done deals.
However, Premier sports have stated on FB have stated that the Watson vs O Donnell 2 bill was the most expensive show they had - so obviously there is the cost to budget the show also.
As for the other point you made. Khan vs McCloskey did very well, all things considered.... but a good point made by another poster not so long ago - it did benefit from the Sky collapse - people got to hear about it, and the channel it was on etc. This will not, becuase there is not a story attached to its TV deal.
So what's your prediction for where it will end up and for how much, Stu?
Ummm..... not sure on either counts. All I've read about premier is that they found the previous show expensive and while they are investing they are still in the speculate to accumulate stage - but production costs will be much higher for this.
With Khan being on the same night - I'm predicting it will be a £15 PPV (Possibly a package offer) - probably on primetime, but not ruling out Sky or Premier either - although I don't think the latter will offer both.
Sorry for the fence hopping there, just very hard to call. If Khan was a 100% a Sky fighter then I would say Khan and this bill would be a decent(ish) SBO event, that probably Sky would accept. Similarly, if Khan signed a multi fight deal with Primetime then I would say its a Shoeing for it to be on Primetime..... and it could (but not Khan) end up on Premier!
Re: Fury - Chisora PPV Question.
Posted: 24 May 2011, 11:26
by jamesmcdonnell
tenner tops is what I'd pay.
Re: Fury - Chisora PPV Question.
Posted: 24 May 2011, 11:27
by Wales
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:smcb80 wrote:primetime offer absolutely no marketing, nobody will know the fight is on. the fighters would make more money scrapping in the street with a violin case opened for passers-by to throw their shrapnel in
You would need a big old suitcase.
Khan-McCloskey grossed around £1 million.
They did Ian, but Sky did all the marketing up until the final hour, then the press did all the markting with the story of sky dumping Khan.
Re: Fury - Chisora PPV Question.
Posted: 24 May 2011, 11:49
by wrimc
i think this will be teamed with Khan PPV to try and boost sales. the only problem i see is team khan seem unlikely to give away a large proportion of the ppv money and hennessey has bid a substantial amount for this purse.
This bill will also have theophane on defending his British title
Re: Fury - Chisora PPV Question.
Posted: 24 May 2011, 11:52
by jamesmcdonnell
wrimc wrote:i think this will be teamed with Khan PPV to try and boost sales. the only problem i see is team khan seem unlikely to give away a large proportion of the ppv money and hennessey has bid a substantial amount for this purse.
This bill will also have theophane on defending his British title
Khan's people would want a huge chunk. However, they would also bring a lot more punters.
Re: Fury - Chisora PPV Question.
Posted: 24 May 2011, 12:40
by ScottDetonator
This is the routine that we really don't want to get into. If this fight is PPV, it'll probably cost £14.99, if that is the case then it's really taking us, the boxing public, as complete mugs. It's also setting us up for paying for any half decent fight. No chance I'd pay for this fight unless I was going to the venue.
Re: Fury - Chisora PPV Question.
Posted: 24 May 2011, 12:44
by loaded_gloves
Anybody who votes 'yes' hurts boxing fans, drives the sport irreversibly further from the mainstream, and deserves to be financially raped by sleazy boxing promoters and TV companies.
Re: Fury - Chisora PPV Question.
Posted: 24 May 2011, 12:49
by stujones
THEBUTCH wrote:Fury has had exposure on the ITV channels, two excellent scraps on Sky and has never knowingly under sold himself when the opportunity arose!
Surely this fight wouldn't have to make £1 million, it's not a world title fight where as Khan's was.
Wonder if Mick will get the criticisms as to why he is not a household name!
Re: Fury - Chisora PPV Question.
Posted: 24 May 2011, 12:49
by Camcas
This will be the worst PPV of all time if it goes to it
Re: Fury - Chisora PPV Question.
Posted: 24 May 2011, 12:53
by stujones
Camcas wrote:This will be the worst PPV of all time if it goes to it
Bennett vs Earl? Wasn't Theobola vs Cornelius Carr on some obscure PPV channell?
Re: Fury - Chisora PPV Question.
Posted: 25 May 2011, 06:13
by freddydoesdallas
Perhaps sky will throw a real curveball if Khan does stick with primetime and decide to show Chisora v Fury on skysports 1. If i had a competitor trying to nab a corner of my market then i'd be doing that
Re: Fury - Chisora PPV Question.
Posted: 25 May 2011, 08:19
by THEBUTCH
Carr v Thobela was on Bravo.
Re: Fury - Chisora PPV Question.
Posted: 25 May 2011, 09:31
by stujones
THEBUTCH wrote:Carr v Thobela was on Bravo.
I thought it might have been, but I can remember some obscure PPV channel (something like the PPV service that was part of ON Digital) offer some obscure British PPV's fights - I'm sure one of these involved Carr.
Re: Fury - Chisora PPV Question.
Posted: 25 May 2011, 10:06
by m1kee50
IMO that fight on its own is not worth a fiver, its a main support to a Froch fight... oh no, hang on, better make it Barker, oh no, wait...
If Fury is all the selling point MH has left, and his response is to sell him as a PPV fighter when he holds the ENGLISH title... it would serve him right if no-one bought it. Fury will probably be the next to leave I reckon, too many have jumped ship recently for it to be a coincedence.