Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 17:20
I'll have to disagree with you there smeldey fight was ok but the main event was poor i nearly fell asleep watching it 
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Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 18:57
Gomez has hit the nail on the head! Taken the words out of my mouth!
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 05:41
I like Maloney's shows, agree recently though the stable is looking a bit thin he needs to get out there and sign up some new talent. Matchroom and Hatton both seem to be nicking all the good up and coming/available fighters at the mo.
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 05:48
Hattons I don't think will amount to much. Matchroom will get stronger again.TheCobra wrote:I like Maloney's shows, agree recently though the stable is looking a bit thin he needs to get out there and sign up some new talent. Matchroom and Hatton both seem to be nicking all the good up and coming/available fighters at the mo.
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 06:11
He's part managed by themJamesH wrote:I didn't think so, always been something of a free spirit has Ashley.leforge wrote:No he is not. Had options after the Daws fight. When Fury loses who has Hennessy got!JamesH wrote:Is Theophane a Hennessy fighter now?
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 06:22
I like the way Frank has the guts to come on this forum and defend his decisions. I have new found respect for the the man.
I think it all boils down to the matchmaking. If he puts good match ups, then SKY will buy them.
I think it all boils down to the matchmaking. If he puts good match ups, then SKY will buy them.
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 06:31
Please do not worry we will be there or around about there, Over the summer months we will sit and look at our stable and pick out the ones who we think are good enough to take forward. Because of the dates that our avilb. to us promoters you can't afford to carry to many fighter these days. I do not intent to move over for anyone or make room for any new boys on the block. I believe our record of putting on shows are as good as anyone else's. And we at FTM just like FW build fighters from the bottom to the top unlike a few out there today.I would be very interested in out of or 10 shows this year which i think the last one on 11 june is a very good one you lot on here think was bad.And i am not going to come back on here and compare then with any other promoters shows as we are all in the same boat right now fighting to keep boxing alive and on TV.leforge wrote:Hattons I don't think will amount to much. Matchroom will get stronger again.TheCobra wrote:I like Maloney's shows, agree recently though the stable is looking a bit thin he needs to get out there and sign up some new talent. Matchroom and Hatton both seem to be nicking all the good up and coming/available fighters at the mo.
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 06:37
Frank is that your last tv show of year on June 11th? Was hoping Sykes would fight again this summer!
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 20:19
Fair play for coming on here and reply, hope it all works out for you, you do need a few more fighters IMHOFtmPress wrote:Please do not worry we will be there or around about there, Over the summer months we will sit and look at our stable and pick out the ones who we think are good enough to take forward. Because of the dates that our avilb. to us promoters you can't afford to carry to many fighter these days. I do not intent to move over for anyone or make room for any new boys on the block. I believe our record of putting on shows are as good as anyone else's. And we at FTM just like FW build fighters from the bottom to the top unlike a few out there today.I would be very interested in out of or 10 shows this year which i think the last one on 11 june is a very good one you lot on here think was bad.And i am not going to come back on here and compare then with any other promoters shows as we are all in the same boat right now fighting to keep boxing alive and on TV.leforge wrote:Hattons I don't think will amount to much. Matchroom will get stronger again.TheCobra wrote:I like Maloney's shows, agree recently though the stable is looking a bit thin he needs to get out there and sign up some new talent. Matchroom and Hatton both seem to be nicking all the good up and coming/available fighters at the mo.
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 13 Jun 2011, 09:01
The Chris Edwards v Paul Edwards fight should answer that question. Maloney makes good matches. Balls to the name fighters like DeGale boring us to tears, Maloney will make matches that are worth watching.
Of course, Hennessy should be there too because also makes good value matches.
Sky have lost there way terribly this year and need the likes of Maloney and Hennessy.
Of course, Hennessy should be there too because also makes good value matches.
Sky have lost there way terribly this year and need the likes of Maloney and Hennessy.
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 13 Jun 2011, 22:41
i think its crazy to say that frank maloney doesnt merit a place on sky
52 weeks in the year with 4 promoters
who gets what??..in regards to shows , does 1 promoter get more than another??
52 weeks in the year with 4 promoters
who gets what??..in regards to shows , does 1 promoter get more than another??
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 14 Jun 2011, 06:10
The Sat night bill was spot on. Well done Frank.
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 14 Jun 2011, 06:21
FtmPress wrote:Please do not worry we will be there or around about there, Over the summer months we will sit and look at our stable and pick out the ones who we think are good enough to take forward. Because of the dates that our avilb. to us promoters you can't afford to carry to many fighter these days. I do not intent to move over for anyone or make room for any new boys on the block. I believe our record of putting on shows are as good as anyone else's. And we at FTM just like FW build fighters from the bottom to the top unlike a few out there today.I would be very interested in out of or 10 shows this year which i think the last one on 11 june is a very good one you lot on here think was bad.And i am not going to come back on here and compare then with any other promoters shows as we are all in the same boat right now fighting to keep boxing alive and on TV.leforge wrote:Hattons I don't think will amount to much. Matchroom will get stronger again.TheCobra wrote:I like Maloney's shows, agree recently though the stable is looking a bit thin he needs to get out there and sign up some new talent. Matchroom and Hatton both seem to be nicking all the good up and coming/available fighters at the mo.
Correct, it's about building future stars not recycling old fighters or nicking other peoples.
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 14 Jun 2011, 09:57
boxingchat wrote:DAVID PRICE??????FtmPress wrote:Please do not worry we will be there or around about there, Over the summer months we will sit and look at our stable and pick out the ones who we think are good enough to take forward. Because of the dates that our avilb. to us promoters you can't afford to carry to many fighter these days. I do not intent to move over for anyone or make room for any new boys on the block. I believe our record of putting on shows are as good as anyone else's. And we at FTM just like FW build fighters from the bottom to the top unlike a few out there today.I would be very interested in out of or 10 shows this year which i think the last one on 11 june is a very good one you lot on here think was bad.And i am not going to come back on here and compare then with any other promoters shows as we are all in the same boat right now fighting to keep boxing alive and on TV.leforge wrote: Hattons I don't think will amount to much. Matchroom will get stronger again.
Correct, it's about building future stars not recycling old fighters or nicking other peoples.
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 01:36
Fury ye but the rest I'd not be bothered about watchin but what would be good is price V FuryCamcas wrote:Sky have four main promoters (matchroom, Warren, Hattons and Maloney) looking through Maloney's stable there isnt many fighters who warrant a headline fight on sky if im honest. Stuart Hall, Jamie McDonell, Gary Sykes and David Price are the only possibilities really. Say Price looses to McDermott and one of McDonell or Hall is going to loose their fight. That gives Maloney a very samll number of attractable fights on offer. Im not saying he should be taken off sky completely, but maybe cut the amount of shows he getes given. If it was me i would much rather see Hennessey's fighters in action. Fury, Daws, McIntosh, O'Donnell, Witter, Theopane. So if it was me i would give Hennessey some of Maloney's slots as their is a lot more public interest in Fury than Stuart Hall and when Chisora vs Fury isn't on sky and McDonnell vs Otieno is then that shouldn't be the case.
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 06:13
Also should be pointed out that Moloney had a star in the making in the late Darren Sutherland, whom chose him over all the other promoters he could have gone with. Family & friends aside, it was a big loss for Maloney Promotions the business.
I think with Froch Matchroom was the best move for him. Hennessey just wasn't getting him the exposure he needed and Matchroom seem to be making giant strides in getting his face out there and increasing his name recognition with all the PAs. Without giving names, I wonder if some of the others have had their head turned by the "flashness" of Matchroom, and Eddie Hearn.
I also wonder if Eddie Hearn the fan may jeopardise Matchroom bottom line and the potential of their fighters. It's great to get a fight against the divisions best (Martinez) but there's also a case to be made that in securing the big fight he's feeding one of his best prospects to the lions.
Ultimately, the Moloneys, Warrens etc. whom are developing the talent need to take note of what Matchroom are offering and ensure they can compete. Eddie Hearn seems to be the only up and coming "man of the times" on the British boxing scene, although the Hattons and Hayemaker are also progressing. These guys all seem to have a better understanding of PR and promotion in todays world.
Warren has been accused of being too risk adverse in the past and has seen many of his stars leave to set up on their own (Calzaghe, Hatton, Khan) for either financial reasons or for not getting the challenges they want. Promoters need to be more aware these days that once the hard work is done, their best talents are not likely to hang around being their cash cow when lesser commissions and bigger pay packets can be achieved by partnering up elsewhere for joint promotions.
I think with Froch Matchroom was the best move for him. Hennessey just wasn't getting him the exposure he needed and Matchroom seem to be making giant strides in getting his face out there and increasing his name recognition with all the PAs. Without giving names, I wonder if some of the others have had their head turned by the "flashness" of Matchroom, and Eddie Hearn.
I also wonder if Eddie Hearn the fan may jeopardise Matchroom bottom line and the potential of their fighters. It's great to get a fight against the divisions best (Martinez) but there's also a case to be made that in securing the big fight he's feeding one of his best prospects to the lions.
Ultimately, the Moloneys, Warrens etc. whom are developing the talent need to take note of what Matchroom are offering and ensure they can compete. Eddie Hearn seems to be the only up and coming "man of the times" on the British boxing scene, although the Hattons and Hayemaker are also progressing. These guys all seem to have a better understanding of PR and promotion in todays world.
Warren has been accused of being too risk adverse in the past and has seen many of his stars leave to set up on their own (Calzaghe, Hatton, Khan) for either financial reasons or for not getting the challenges they want. Promoters need to be more aware these days that once the hard work is done, their best talents are not likely to hang around being their cash cow when lesser commissions and bigger pay packets can be achieved by partnering up elsewhere for joint promotions.
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 09:52
Well we will be starting our new season with
3 Sept European, British and Commonwealth Bantam Title all on the line plus Tony Jeffries and Gary Sykes on the bill and a star for the further Joe Hughes. Follow in Oct. with British and Commonwealth S.Bantam Titles plus David Price and Karl Place.We are up for a fight with any of the others in the coming year, I believe what we did at Liverpool has showing the other promoters that your fighters have got to fight the fans do not want to be able to pick the winner before the start of the contest. Them days are over i believe please tell me if i am wrong.
3 Sept European, British and Commonwealth Bantam Title all on the line plus Tony Jeffries and Gary Sykes on the bill and a star for the further Joe Hughes. Follow in Oct. with British and Commonwealth S.Bantam Titles plus David Price and Karl Place.We are up for a fight with any of the others in the coming year, I believe what we did at Liverpool has showing the other promoters that your fighters have got to fight the fans do not want to be able to pick the winner before the start of the contest. Them days are over i believe please tell me if i am wrong.
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 09:53
Enjoyed the liverpool show. Keep up the good work.
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 09:56
FTMpress price will probably be ready to fight fury soon, would you rather have price fight fury on channel 5 (presuming he gets past chisora and still fighting on channel 5) for the exposure or on one of your shows?
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 09:57
Frank. Will you be at the Stadium of Light show on July 3rd?FtmPress wrote:Well we will be starting our new season with
3 Sept European, British and Commonwealth Bantam Title all on the line plus Tony Jeffries and Gary Sykes on the bill and a star for the further Joe Hughes. Follow in Oct. with British and Commonwealth S.Bantam Titles plus David Price and Karl Place.We are up for a fight with any of the others in the coming year, I believe what we did at Liverpool has showing the other promoters that your fighters have got to fight the fans do not want to be able to pick the winner before the start of the contest. Them days are over i believe please tell me if i am wrong.
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 09:58
Fury got to win first on July 23 and were ever i can get him the best deal .REAL_DEAL wrote:FTMpress price will probably be ready to fight fury soon, would you rather have price fight fury on channel 5 (presuming he gets past chisora and still fighting on channel 5) for the exposure or on one of your shows?
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 10:10
Quality line ups to start new season! Will that be Price v Mcdermott?FtmPress wrote:Well we will be starting our new season with
3 Sept European, British and Commonwealth Bantam Title all on the line plus Tony Jeffries and Gary Sykes on the bill and a star for the further Joe Hughes. Follow in Oct. with British and Commonwealth S.Bantam Titles plus David Price and Karl Place.We are up for a fight with any of the others in the coming year, I believe what we did at Liverpool has showing the other promoters that your fighters have got to fight the fans do not want to be able to pick the winner before the start of the contest. Them days are over i believe please tell me if i am wrong.
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 10:13
x 2.jBacca wrote:The Sat night bill was spot on. Well done Frank.
Of course Frank deserves a Sky spot. Some of the best British fights over the past 12 months have come off Maloney's shows.
Re: Does Maloney warrant a sky place
Posted: 16 Jun 2011, 12:45
Deno1986 wrote:x 2.jBacca wrote:The Sat night bill was spot on. Well done Frank.
Of course Frank deserves a Sky spot. Some of the best British fights over the past 12 months have come off Maloney's shows.
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