Re: Ryan Rhodes WBC champ
Posted: 11 Jun 2011, 17:05
Final round wrote:
He would love it and so would I!
Final round wrote:
He would love it and so would I!
You give me 10-1 I'll have £250diddy wrote:Save your money. Rhodes is gonna get beat up.
Jamie Moore?crusader wrote:It's interesting how several people are criticizing Alvarez for one average showing against Hatton (a fight that Alvarez throughly dominated), yet don't seem to think Rhodes' lossess to Blundell, Matthews, and Lockett are relevant. Also, too much is being made out of Rhodes' unbeaten streak at 154; he has defeated only one fighter worth mentioning at the weight and he was given a relatively competitive bout by Vincent Vuma.
I think Canelo would have a bit more than Rhodes no matter where the bout was held, but with the bout taking place in Mexico, Alvarez might get an extra edge from the local support and favorable officiating.
crusader wrote: Also, too much is being made out of Rhodes' unbeaten streak at 154;
nelsoninfour wrote:Jamie Moore?crusader wrote:It's interesting how several people are criticizing Alvarez for one average showing against Hatton (a fight that Alvarez throughly dominated), yet don't seem to think Rhodes' lossess to Blundell, Matthews, and Lockett are relevant. Also, too much is being made out of Rhodes' unbeaten streak at 154; he has defeated only one fighter worth mentioning at the weight and he was given a relatively competitive bout by Vincent Vuma.
I think Canelo would have a bit more than Rhodes no matter where the bout was held, but with the bout taking place in Mexico, Alvarez might get an extra edge from the local support and favorable officiating.
The score cards did not show that? Why not get behind a British fighter and stop being a typical Brit and criticising success.gobbles wrote:nelsoninfour wrote:Jamie Moore?crusader wrote:It's interesting how several people are criticizing Alvarez for one average showing against Hatton (a fight that Alvarez throughly dominated), yet don't seem to think Rhodes' lossess to Blundell, Matthews, and Lockett are relevant. Also, too much is being made out of Rhodes' unbeaten streak at 154; he has defeated only one fighter worth mentioning at the weight and he was given a relatively competitive bout by Vincent Vuma.
I think Canelo would have a bit more than Rhodes no matter where the bout was held, but with the bout taking place in Mexico, Alvarez might get an extra edge from the local support and favorable officiating.
The story goes that Moore lost between 12 and 20lb in 3 days before the weigh-in. He beat the living daylights out of Rhodes for the first four rounds, couldn't stop him and was out on
his feet.
lol Yeah no football connotation intendedkeithmoonhangover wrote:Final round wrote:
He would love it and so would I!Even I like that and I'm a Mackem.
kingfinn wrote:Its hard to tell how good alvarez actually is, if hatton could bang Alvarez would have taken a pasting. If anything it was only the fact that hatton was too small to hurt him that Alvarez could stay on the front foot, otherwise he would have been outboxed.
6-1 to win and now 10-1 for the tko as think we all agree that's the only way he coming home with the belt. U receiving post?twenty six wrote:Rhodes has had another solid week of prep.
He loves the heat - that won't be an issue - and he's totally in tune with the altitude issue.
Let's be honest this is a tough assignment for Ryan, but having been around the kid for longer than I care to recall, never have I seen him in better nick.
It is right that odds wise he's the second favourite but my oh my 8-1 ?!?
You might get a surprise fight night as well with the support in Mexico for Rhodes.
My forcast for what it's worth is a stoppage for Rhodes in rounds 6 to 8.
I don't see Ryan being unable to take his shots early on, and I think the young Mexican will get careless and get caught.
If Ryan hits the sweet spot he ain't getting up.
Good luck to Ryan.twenty six wrote:Rhodes has had another solid week of prep.
He loves the heat - that won't be an issue - and he's totally in tune with the altitude issue.
Let's be honest this is a tough assignment for Ryan, but having been around the kid for longer than I care to recall, never have I seen him in better nick.
It is right that odds wise he's the second favourite but my oh my 8-1 ?!?
You might get a surprise fight night as well with the support in Mexico for Rhodes.
My forcast for what it's worth is a stoppage for Rhodes in rounds 6 to 8.
I don't see Ryan being unable to take his shots early on, and I think the young Mexican will get careless and get caught.
If Ryan hits the sweet spot he ain't getting up.
5/1 just to Win is a Big Price also, which I've taken. In a 2 Horse Race, 5/1 is good value!nelsoninfour wrote:I have watched several alverez fights and think when Rhodes connects Saul will go. Also think 8-1 massive price for tko victory. Any thoughts?
Think he will have to knock him out to win so 10-1 on that seemed excellent. Glad you following suit and backing a good priced British contender. In boxing bets like this don't come up that oftenRocky Balboa wrote:5/1 just to Win is a Big Price also, which I've taken. In a 2 Horse Race, 5/1 is good value!nelsoninfour wrote:I have watched several alverez fights and think when Rhodes connects Saul will go. Also think 8-1 massive price for tko victory. Any thoughts?
maybe you should read what i said again. If hatton had been big and powerful enough to hurt alvarez then alvarez would have lost, he wouldnt have been able to walk though hattons punches to land his own. He had no movement, created no angles, didnt really show that much class, was very easy to hit and his defence was poor. He won that fight simply down to being the bigger stronger man not the better fighter.gobbles wrote:kingfinn wrote:Its hard to tell how good alvarez actually is, if hatton could bang Alvarez would have taken a pasting. If anything it was only the fact that hatton was too small to hurt him that Alvarez could stay on the front foot, otherwise he would have been outboxed.
"Taken a pasting??????" - did you see the fight? Alvarez outlanded him 294-138 in the punch stats
kingfinn wrote:maybe you should read what i said again. If hatton had been big and powerful enough to hurt alvarez then alvarez would have lost, he wouldnt have been able to walk though hattons punches to land his own. He had no movement, created no angles, didnt really show that much class, was very easy to hit and his defence was poor. He won that fight simply down to being the bigger stronger man not the better fighter.gobbles wrote:kingfinn wrote:Its hard to tell how good alvarez actually is, if hatton could bang Alvarez would have taken a pasting. If anything it was only the fact that hatton was too small to hurt him that Alvarez could stay on the front foot, otherwise he would have been outboxed.
"Taken a pasting??????" - did you see the fight? Alvarez outlanded him 294-138 in the punch stats
You taking my bet big GOBBLES or what! You just sticking your guns but not putting your ass on line. Typicalgobbles wrote:kingfinn wrote:maybe you should read what i said again. If hatton had been big and powerful enough to hurt alvarez then alvarez would have lost, he wouldnt have been able to walk though hattons punches to land his own. He had no movement, created no angles, didnt really show that much class, was very easy to hit and his defence was poor. He won that fight simply down to being the bigger stronger man not the better fighter.gobbles wrote:
"Taken a pasting??????" - did you see the fight? Alvarez outlanded him 294-138 in the punch stats
He fought the fighter in front of him. One would assume that he would adjust tactics for who he was fighting. You are making the assumption that he can only fight one way.
If Hatton had been a banger, it is unlikely Alvarez would have just fought him straight on. Might as well have said that if Valuev was a slicker boxer, he would have outboxed Haye.
I could see where you were coming from if alverez hadnt been deeply dissappointed by his peformance, he clearly expected to demolish hatton and couldnt adapt when hatton kept coming at him. It was a poor peformance by alvarez who showed no signs of a boxing brain.gobbles wrote:kingfinn wrote:maybe you should read what i said again. If hatton had been big and powerful enough to hurt alvarez then alvarez would have lost, he wouldnt have been able to walk though hattons punches to land his own. He had no movement, created no angles, didnt really show that much class, was very easy to hit and his defence was poor. He won that fight simply down to being the bigger stronger man not the better fighter.gobbles wrote:
"Taken a pasting??????" - did you see the fight? Alvarez outlanded him 294-138 in the punch stats
He fought the fighter in front of him. One would assume that he would adjust tactics for who he was fighting. You are making the assumption that he can only fight one way.
If Hatton had been a banger, it is unlikely Alvarez would have just fought him straight on. Might as well have said that if Valuev was a slicker boxer, he would have outboxed Haye.
nelsoninfour wrote:You taking my bet big GOBBLES or what! You just sticking your guns but not putting your ass on line. Typicalgobbles wrote:kingfinn wrote: maybe you should read what i said again. If hatton had been big and powerful enough to hurt alvarez then alvarez would have lost, he wouldnt have been able to walk though hattons punches to land his own. He had no movement, created no angles, didnt really show that much class, was very easy to hit and his defence was poor. He won that fight simply down to being the bigger stronger man not the better fighter.
He fought the fighter in front of him. One would assume that he would adjust tactics for who he was fighting. You are making the assumption that he can only fight one way.
If Hatton had been a banger, it is unlikely Alvarez would have just fought him straight on. Might as well have said that if Valuev was a slicker boxer, he would have outboxed Haye.
gobbles wrote:nelsoninfour wrote:You taking my bet big GOBBLES or what! You just sticking your guns but not putting your ass on line. Typicalgobbles wrote: It's always nice to meet someone who prepared to put there ass on the line with their opinions. You seemed so confident I thought you would jump at the chance of taking my hard earned money. Have managed to find 10-1 online.
In life some people sit on the fence and others get down and try to make a difference.![]()
He fought the fighter in front of him. One would assume that he would adjust tactics for who he was fighting. You are making the assumption that he can only fight one way.
If Hatton had been a banger, it is unlikely Alvarez would have just fought him straight on. Might as well have said that if Valuev was a slicker boxer, he would have outboxed Haye.
What am I, a bookie? Stan james will give you 9-1 if you want and i'm sure they can lay you a bigger bet than I can afford to.