Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 25 Jun 2011, 19:56
Yes. Not saying he's pound for pound or anything yet; but world class for suremrpedigree wrote:world class ??reggaereggae wrote:I thought he looked good
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Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 03:59
Point is that no-one has ever stopped the guy.Gray-Fox wrote:LOL @ comparing his win with the others...as if they were recent (well Alvarez's was but his style is never going to look as flashy as Brook's)
Shows just hard Junior Witter punches, by the way - last night it looked like it'd take a cannonball to have Lovemore off his feet!
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 04:01
Completely agree. Would love the Hatton fight next but can't imagine them takin it ...DIRT SUGAR wrote:He did a job on a guy well beaten by all those guys who's 39 and got a lot of miles on the clock. What he needs now is to get in with someone like Hatton and stop him in style then take on a good American and get some momentum going, because that's what his career has lacked.... momentum and consistent progression. It's been stop and start but no excuses now, he's got to get back in their asap against a better opponent each time out. Simples!welshee wrote:Brook did a better job than Alvarez, Cotto, Witter & Malignaggi IMO. Where would you put his performance in comparison with theirs?mrpedigree wrote:world class ??
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 04:05
Yeah, i agree with your analysis. To use a football analogy, Kell moved last night from boxing lower league opponents to taking on a good, strong, upper championship team. He will have improved hugely frm the experience.bigB wrote:Dan I think what I put above pretty much summed it up.
Jon just dislikes the Ingle style so will always have a negative opinion.
The difference in class between Ndou and all Kell's other opponents (other than Jennings) is immense. I thought Kell dealt with the step-up extremely and boxed beautifully for the most part. His footwork, accuracy, relexes, hand speed and power all looked top-class to me.
Next stop the Premiership!
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 04:24
I've said it all along. Kell's got most of the attributes you need to go far but he gets hit too often for me. Always has done.
Then again, so does Carl Froch and he isn't doing badly. I'd just like to see Kell tighten up this one aspect but it was a good performance against a really tough bastard.
Then again, so does Carl Froch and he isn't doing badly. I'd just like to see Kell tighten up this one aspect but it was a good performance against a really tough bastard.
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 04:29
Weather you think Brook is world class or not, you have to give credit on that performance. He dominated someone who doesn't normally get dominated.
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 05:14
Johnny Cucumber wrote:kell would win a European title but as for being world class he definitely isn't.
That was a real let down as he couldn't of picked a better time to fight Lovemore in his career.
As for G Mccrory saying that's the best job anyone has done on N'dou !!!!!!!
Is he crazy or does he just not do his homework ?
He needs to look no further than Kells stablemate Witter.
Witter boxed N'dou in his prime (2005)and at his correct weight and did a great job on him dumping him on his arse quite heavily about 2/3 times.
N'dou went to he'll and back in that fight and did unbelievably well to survive......
Witter had a great half of the fight but take away the 2 knockdowns and he walks away with a draw. N'Dou came on strong over the 2nd half and ran Witter close.
I'm not saying Kell's win is more impressive as it isn't but Junior didn't dominate N'dou by any stretch.
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 05:46
But then Malignaggi put him down in their first fight also.danfoster wrote:Point is that no-one has ever stopped the guy.Gray-Fox wrote:LOL @ comparing his win with the others...as if they were recent (well Alvarez's was but his style is never going to look as flashy as Brook's)
Shows just hard Junior Witter punches, by the way - last night it looked like it'd take a cannonball to have Lovemore off his feet!
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 06:02
I might be coming across as a hater, but Kell is just overrated to me. Ndou is super slow, anyone who fights tricky like Kell can look good vs someone like Ndou.
Get him in with someone decent and we'll see what he's made of.
He catches shots too much for me, like Ian said.
Get him in with someone decent and we'll see what he's made of.
He catches shots too much for me, like Ian said.
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 06:10
I don't think Brook has enough gears, enough pop and a tight enough defence to make it to the very top. But he performed well last night, it wasn't dull and it was nice to see the Sheffield crowd really get behind him.
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 08:04
What is it with posters crearting negativity around our lads ?
I'm sure no one is saying he's the second coming or anything like that, but Ezekiel is a talent, and I'm absolutely convinced that when his chance arrives he'll take it.
What bemuses me the most is that it has taken this long to let the kid headline in Sheffield.
Well done Matchroom.
I'm sure no one is saying he's the second coming or anything like that, but Ezekiel is a talent, and I'm absolutely convinced that when his chance arrives he'll take it.
What bemuses me the most is that it has taken this long to let the kid headline in Sheffield.
Well done Matchroom.
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 08:18
Bit harsh mate!yid14 wrote:Brook reminds me of Jonny Nelson - must be a sheffield thing! He does what it takes to win and then for the last 2-3 rounds turns it on, boring though. He should try harder earlier, gave it the big one about doing it for his Sheffield fans and let's face it, didn't really put on a show.
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 08:44
[quote="twenty six"]What is it with posters crearting negativity around our lads ?
I'm sure no one is saying he's the second coming or anything like that, but Ezekiel is a talent, and I'm absolutely convinced that when his chance arrives he'll take it.
What bemuses me the most is that it has taken this long to let the kid headline in Sheffield.
Well done Matchroom.[/quote
"our lads" eh?? what do you mean??
I'm sure no one is saying he's the second coming or anything like that, but Ezekiel is a talent, and I'm absolutely convinced that when his chance arrives he'll take it.
What bemuses me the most is that it has taken this long to let the kid headline in Sheffield.
Well done Matchroom.[/quote
"our lads" eh?? what do you mean??
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 08:48
danfoster wrote:. Jon, both of your sentences above made me laugh! Hope you enjoyed the fight mateJon Saxon wrote:Sorry mate you heard it on here first from me, ask DanGray-Fox wrote:Kell's defence is his reflexes, and that will be his downfall.
Remember where you heard it first.
Sadly the kid aint got it, anyone can see that.
I sort of did Dan but I would have rather he was in with a live dog and tbh I didnt enjoy it (and yet and old carthorse still landed waaaaaaay to much on him btw) as much as the Macklin fight.
For the record I have quite a few friends in your city.
Trust me Kel is gonna get brutaly ko'ed by a non shot fighter at some point.
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 09:36
Saxon,
Our lads = British Boxers.
Our lads = British Boxers.
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 10:26
Never said you didn't mate!Jon Saxon wrote:danfoster wrote:. Jon, both of your sentences above made me laugh! Hope you enjoyed the fight mateJon Saxon wrote: Sorry mate you heard it on here first from me, ask Dan
Sadly the kid aint got it, anyone can see that.
I sort of did Dan but I would have rather he was in with a live dog and tbh I didnt enjoy it (and yet and old carthorse still landed waaaaaaay to much on him btw) as much as the Macklin fight.
For the record I have quite a few friends in your city.
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 13:11
He took a fair few unnecessary shots but he's an exciting fighter that's for sure, he must have learnt a lot from the 12 last night though
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 13:55
Good experience for him in that fight, I thought it was a clever match up beforehand and so it proved to be. I never did agree with people assuming Ndou would fall over once Brook connected.
Brook has some nice skills, but for me is still a work in progress, this fight was a good start, he can only get better from here.
It was a good job by matchroom with the show too.
Brook has some nice skills, but for me is still a work in progress, this fight was a good start, he can only get better from here.
It was a good job by matchroom with the show too.
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 14:10
Really, I watched it and it was pretty dull.leforge wrote:Bit harsh mate!yid14 wrote:Brook reminds me of Jonny Nelson - must be a sheffield thing! He does what it takes to win and then for the last 2-3 rounds turns it on, boring though. He should try harder earlier, gave it the big one about doing it for his Sheffield fans and let's face it, didn't really put on a show.
Especially when the Macklin fight was straight after.
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 14:19
I was smashed when watching it at 2 last night so need to watch againyid14 wrote:Really, I watched it and it was pretty dull.leforge wrote:Bit harsh mate!yid14 wrote:Brook reminds me of Jonny Nelson - must be a sheffield thing! He does what it takes to win and then for the last 2-3 rounds turns it on, boring though. He should try harder earlier, gave it the big one about doing it for his Sheffield fans and let's face it, didn't really put on a show.
Especially when the Macklin fight was straight after.
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 14:20
brook has very good skills and id give him a massive edge over frankie gavin right now even though he is much younger.
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 14:29
don't bother - watch the macklin-sturm fight. Let me know who you think won.leforge wrote:I was smashed when watching it at 2 last night so need to watch againyid14 wrote:Really, I watched it and it was pretty dull.leforge wrote: Bit harsh mate!
Especially when the Macklin fight was straight after.
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 14:42
I saw that this afternoon thought Macklin just won.yid14 wrote:don't bother - watch the macklin-sturm fight. Let me know who you think won.leforge wrote:I was smashed when watching it at 2 last night so need to watch againyid14 wrote: Really, I watched it and it was pretty dull.
Especially when the Macklin fight was straight after.
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 17:03
To cut Kell some slack, he ain't boxed a live opponent for around a year since Jennings.
N'dou is always the same usually and Kell bossed him from beginning to end. N'dou wasn't allowed to bluster forwards as per normal.
We'll know more about his potential when he faces an equally skilled and ambitious opponent. But in the meantime I thought generally he did everything correct.
N'dou is always the same usually and Kell bossed him from beginning to end. N'dou wasn't allowed to bluster forwards as per normal.
We'll know more about his potential when he faces an equally skilled and ambitious opponent. But in the meantime I thought generally he did everything correct.
Re: Kell brook ,i ent on the hype train !!
Posted: 27 Jun 2011, 01:41
I agree with this Ian, remember watching him at magna vs thorpe i think? and was suprised at how often he got tagged and in the ams vs John Fewkes. I think its lazy writing for people to call him 'typical Ingle' fighter. Although he's no slouch in the reflex/footwork dept he is very much a front foot counter puncher.Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:I've said it all along. Kell's got most of the attributes you need to go far but he gets hit too often for me. Always has done.
Then again, so does Carl Froch and he isn't doing badly. I'd just like to see Kell tighten up this one aspect but it was a good performance against a really tough bastard.