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Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 11 Jul 2011, 06:31
by Scrap
Tubby not really, its one of the reasons Ill never retire to busy doing what Im doing.

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 11 Jul 2011, 07:16
by Scrap
Tubby talking Football, heres a kid i enjoy working with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieOAiQVnE6Q

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 11 Jul 2011, 09:58
by King Tubby
He looks good Scrap. 2 good feet, good balance. Looks like he's enjoying himself too, which is the main thing. Good Luck to him. :TU:

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 11 Jul 2011, 14:30
by Dioufy
My new routine per week;

Three 5k runs at above 10kph
Two IT on the treadmill a week

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 09 Sep 2011, 02:45
by scottmallon
One word - HIIT (actually four) - Hi Intensity Interval Training. My guys run about 6-10km a day and on two of the slow days, they get on the treadmill and run sprints. Most of the time it's 1:30 of work (sprinting nearly full out), then :45 seconds rest (walking). We mix it up sometimes with plain ole wind sprints, either 100 yard dashes or 440's. They're not yet where I want them but they're definitely getting more and more fit. I like the rowing machines as well - a good 1500 meters is usually enough - you can do sprints or whatever but 1500 meters seems to be enough with everything else they're doing.

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 01 Oct 2011, 14:50
by DrZWS
Do both. One day is your aerobic day (long run day) the other is your anaerobic day (sprint day). I'd mix in some plyometric exercises on the sprint day too.

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 01 Oct 2011, 16:40
by Scrap
Running is Plyometrics, better of Stretching.

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 18 Oct 2011, 13:51
by Scrap
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Verti-Run ... 2673778169



This was the machine we tried ideas out on, its all finished now. It actually gets you fitter than anything as regards Running so the Tests prove. Intervals are a Killer on it. Steady state or long Runs produce 30% more lactic than normal running, Great for losing weight. All done without impact and stress, therefore helping the Sympathetic Nervous System to work Better :DDD

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 17:01
by AlexAhle
If you do the crosstrainer:
the slower you move (harder) the more fat you burn.
the faster you move, the better your stamina gets (condition).

Hope it helps :)

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 23:37
by Deserter
AlexAhle wrote:If you do the crosstrainer:
the slower you move (harder) the more fat you burn.
the faster you move, the better your stamina gets (condition).

Hope it helps :)
Sorry fella, but this is utter nonsense.

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 23 Oct 2011, 05:39
by Scrap
Alex, interesting wheres the Proof of this.

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 23 Oct 2011, 12:34
by Dioufy
Hello - quick question; I lift 3 times a week, will doing 16 mins of HIIT twice a week hurt my muscle?

I doubt it but just wanna be sure.

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 23 Oct 2011, 13:13
by Deserter
Dioufy wrote:Hello - quick question; I lift 3 times a week, will doing 16 mins of HIIT twice a week hurt my muscle?

I doubt it but just wanna be sure.
No fella, as you rightly suspect you should be fine - just don't do it right before you lift :TU:

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 23 Oct 2011, 16:42
by Dioufy
Deserter wrote:
Dioufy wrote:Hello - quick question; I lift 3 times a week, will doing 16 mins of HIIT twice a week hurt my muscle?

I doubt it but just wanna be sure.
No fella, as you rightly suspect you should be fine - just don't do it right before you lift :TU:
Is that best? I do HIIT last on a Monday, and first on a Friday.

And I'd knew you respond.

Cheers.

:TU:

Got my sprint speed up 2kph, to 19kph now.

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 25 Oct 2011, 06:36
by AlexAhle
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Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 25 Oct 2011, 09:59
by Deserter
AlexAhle wrote:I can't really proove it. It was told to me by my mum who's a physiotherapist.
But take it that you're big and greasy with bad condition = you won't be able to move fast like a skinny no-fat marathonrunner with great condition. Do you get me?
Slow moving with a continues heart rate at around 100-120 will provide more effective fat loss than fast running. But I canny tell how big the difference in fat loss is, but in the long run it's the same effect = fat loss with better stamina.
Hope it helped :)
Fella, sorry, but you've written utter rubbish that's been repeatedly discredited by any valid research. HIIT training is far more effective for fat loss - time you got an education :wink:

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 25 Oct 2011, 15:37
by Scrap
Deserter, Actually He is not talking Bollocks, Id like to know How He got the the figures, for the cross trainer. That interests me, I understand the concept, believe me Sports Science is what we have, but its Not Gospel as a few top Sports Scientists are finding out, Gravity can be utilized to help improve training. SNS gets to much Stress, causing injury to the Pathways long term.

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 25 Oct 2011, 15:43
by Scrap
Deserter, Actually He is not talking Bollocks, Id like to know How He got the the figures, for the cross trainer. That interests me, I understand the concept, believe me Sports Science is what we have, but its Not Gospel as a few top Sports Scientists are finding out, Gravity can be utilized to help improve training. SNS gets to much Stress, causing injury to the Pathways long term.

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 25 Oct 2011, 15:44
by Scrap
Im stuttering

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 25 Oct 2011, 15:46
by Deserter
Scrap wrote:Deserter, Actually He is not talking Bollocks.
Scrap, I'm sorry, but claiming that: "Slow moving with a continues heart rate at around 100-120 will provide more effective fat loss than fast running." is bollocks in my book - it's contary to any piece of research I've seen in recent years and certainly contrary to any anecdotal evidence as well. This perception of the mythical 'fat-burning zone' was put to bed a long time ago.

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 25 Oct 2011, 16:17
by Scrap
Well its been woken up again :D , I find His comments on the Cross Trainer interesting, because of other research that is coming forward.

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 26 Oct 2011, 17:43
by AlexAhle
Thanks for your support, Scrap.
I don't really mind about getting rid of fat since my bodyfat is around 6%. If you're new in the game I wouldn't recommend long runs, I would take it slow and easy. Especially if you don't have the condition to keep running for long. The more you move = the faster you get tired.

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 26 Oct 2011, 18:04
by darren_simion
Alex Ariza has always said one should vary his exercises. The body will always get used to a certain exercise if repeated often enough. No matter how brutal it is.

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 26 Oct 2011, 19:04
by Scrap
Alex, no problem plus Ive been around a long time., I would like to know what documentation Fact you have on your statement. As we have been getting similar results, on Testing something similar non impact.. At 140 bpm the body produces 30% more Lactic than Running. Where at VO2/ max 180 bpm the body produces, 20% less Lactic than Running. Interesting what Stress appears to do to the SNS and the affect it has on the clarity of the Golgi and Pituitary Gland.

Re: Long runs or sprints?

Posted: 05 Dec 2011, 11:27
by Scrap