The Big One: Haye V Klitschko predictions

[THE MESSIAH]

Haye is a puncher at heavyweight - anyone who says different is a silly sausage.

They all punch at heavyweight.

The way they speak you would think HAYE was a Julian Jackson type.

[Dioufy]

Haye is a puncher at heavyweight - anyone who says different is a silly sausage.

They all punch at heavyweight.

The way they speak you would think HAYE was a Julian Jackson type.

How so?

I am saying he's going to knock Wlad out, not King Kong.

[Dioufy]

Haye is a puncher at heavyweight - anyone who says different is a silly sausage.

They all punch at heavyweight..

Are you Jim Watt. Urban myth right there.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Haye is a puncher at heavyweight - anyone who says different is a silly sausage.

They all punch at heavyweight..

Are you Jim Watt. Urban myth right there.

No it isn't. Any 200 lb plus man landing a hard flush punch can score a knockout. The knockout ratios are higher at heavyweight than flyweight for this reason.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I see this as thus...

Haye and Wlad do NOTHING in the 1st. Haye runs around the ring staying away from Wlad. 2nd, and Wlad's INCHING forward pawing that jab. Haye might throw a few big looping rights and miss. Crowd probably boo'ing at this stage. 3rd and Wlad is still trying to hunt down an elusive Haye, who is happy to stick to the ropes to avoid anything. Sky Sports show a stat that says Wlad hasn't thrown a right-hand and has only landed 2 of out 20 jabs. Just as Wlad starts to get a false sens eof security with this edging forward shit, Haye catches him with a right hand. Wlad falls back with bunny rabbits/headlights eyes. Haye backs him up on the rope, not landing too much too cleanly. Wlad throws a right in anger, Haye connects with a big right again (ala Macca fight), Wlad falls back on the ropes. Ref counts even though Wlad hasn't touched down. Hayve moves in and even though he doesn't connect cleanly, Wlad's on his arse. He gets up, on shaky legs, Haye moves in - Jim Watt tells us Haye needs to finish him as he's shot his bolt. Haye catches a beat Wlad on the ropes, and he's on the ropes. Ref waves it off.

Anyone agree?

No Wlad isn't audley...

Of course he isn't, but the fight will be quite similar.

If you think so. Personally I don't.

[THE MESSIAH]

Haye is a puncher at heavyweight - anyone who says different is a silly sausage.

They all punch at heavyweight.

The way they speak you would think HAYE was a Julian Jackson type.

How so?

I am saying he's going to knock Wlad out, not King Kong.

Haye has good speed plus decent power.

Wlad hits harder than HAYE and has the better chin at the weight.

[Dioufy]

They all punch at heavyweight..

Are you Jim Watt. Urban myth right there.

No it isn't. Any 200 lb plus man landing a hard flush punch can score a knockout. The knockout ratios are higher at heavyweight than flyweight for this reason.

Being able to land the punch is the hard part. It's not a given just because you weight 200lbs and 'can punch'. This time last year I weight over 200lbs. You think I have a chance over someone who is superior than me at the same weight? Bollocks.

[Dioufy]

They all punch at heavyweight.

The way they speak you would think HAYE was a Julian Jackson type.

How so?

I am saying he's going to knock Wlad out, not King Kong.

Haye has good speed plus decent power.

Wlad hits harder than HAYE and has the better chin at the weight.

But Haye is faster and is agressive. That's what will count in the fight, IMO.

[LeedsLad]

There's an awful lot of flagwaving/misguided patriotism going on in this thread.

Listening to some of you lot going on, you'd think all Haye has to do is throw a big right hand and the God's will grant him victory.

Given Haye's low output in his HW career to date, and poor finishing ability, I fail to see how even if he manages to hit and hurt Wlad, how he'll finish him off. Look at the Harrison fight, against a journeyman he was reluctant to let his hands go. Why is that going to change, against a better opponent?

Wlad is deceptively quick and is a very accurate puncher. Watch how Ruiz was tagging him with jabs, and Mormeck hitting him with right hands..... and ask yourself how long Haye can take those kind of shots.

The last thing I expect Haye to try and do is rush Wladimir. His fans always use this ''well, all his previous opponents are fat bums'' - but is Haye any better than Chris Byrd? Seriously? Power aside, I think he's actually inferior in most departments.

His HW career has been very carefully managed. Barrett was a safe-ish entry in to the division, Valuev lost to Holyfield in the eyes of almost everyone who watched their fight, and Ruiz again whilst being double tough hadn't beaten anyone of note in years. And Harrison My mother would fancy her chances.

The best bet in this fight is Klitschko in rounds 7-12. 11/4 with most bookies. Definitely worth a fair chunk IMO.

[LeedsLad]

How so?

I am saying he's going to knock Wlad out, not King Kong.

Haye has good speed plus decent power.

Wlad hits harder than HAYE and has the better chin at the weight.

But Haye is faster and is agressive. That's what will count in the fight, IMO.

[THE MESSIAH]

How so?

I am saying he's going to knock Wlad out, not King Kong.

Haye has good speed plus decent power.

Wlad hits harder than HAYE and has the better chin at the weight.

But Haye is faster and is agressive. That's what will count in the fight, IMO.

JAB CONTROLS SPEED.

[Dioufy]

I am sick of my opinion because slated because I'm English. Jeez, I was one of the few people who had Haye losing to the freak.

[THE MESSIAH]

I am sick of my opinion because slated because I'm English. Jeez, I was one of the few people who had Haye losing to the freak.

I am not slating you, I am just not in agreement.

[Lenny]

Richard "The Secret" Williams - because I haven't got a clue

[Dioufy]

I am sick of my opinion because slated because I'm English. Jeez, I was one of the few people who had Haye losing to the freak.

I am not slating you, I am just not in agreement.

Time will tell who's right, but I am confident we'll have a Haye win come Saturday night.

[stujones]

Haye TKO 11

Haye will box defensively in the main and will be largely dictated to by Wlad's jab. He'll be busted up and a mile behind on the cards but I think he'll hang on in there. He'll have little option but to go for broke late on and can see him doing serious damage as Klitschko inevitably gases in the second half of the fight.

My vivd dream has clarified a Haye victory via 11th round KO. Haye getting dominated, Klitchsko hurts him in the 10th - decide Haye is ready this time... bomb, gets caught - survives the round just but Haye gets him a round later.

I'm not one to really believe in signals, but these dreams have paid off once or twice for me in the past. From the obvious - e.g. Roger Federer to win wimbledon (when he does), too the "scary" (Williams KO end of the 4th Round Tyson), to the rediculous - David Gray to win a ranking event in snooker in 2004? - I didn't know a player existed.

[deadpan]

Wlad on close points in a tight, cagey fight where Booth's tactical acumen doesn't get the decision this time (Valuev, DeGale).

[Bard of Boxrec]

Right, this is my final prediction.

Round 1 will be 100% feeling out, Haye prowling, Wlad stalking but neither throwing.
Round 2 Haye will stay on the back foot, circling the ring and stepping in with that quick jab/looping left hand he throws and bring the right hand over a couple of times. Haye lands one and steps in, lands another, catches Wlad again, Wlad down on a knee, takes the 8 count but isn't badly hurt and survives the round.
Round 3 Wlad very very slowly starts to get into the fight, landing a couple of jabs. Haye's output goes down. Towards the end of the round Haye is circling more than punching. Wlad hurts Haye at the end of the round with a jab, lands a cuffing right hand that has Haye on the run.
Round 4 Wlad begins throwing the jab with more regularity and Haye having huge problems finding his way past it. Haye gets busted up with maybe a cut above the eye. Wlad begins to turn over the right hand. Haye holds on.
Round 5 Wlad finally lands a flush right and Haye goes down. Pride will make him get up. He is badly hurt and starts swinging for the fences. He walks into another big right and his legs go. Ref steps in before he goes down.

So, Wlad TKO5 after the Ukrainian is in trouble early.

Badly hope I'm wrong. I think the key to the fight is that 1. Haye doesn't hit as hard as Corrie Sanders and while he does have the power to do some damage, he simply won't be able to land enough clean and 2. Haye's chin cannot be trusted to hold up in the likely event that he gets tagged.

[NazNaci1]

I am just not convinced Wlad's jab will be the factor most people think it will. Sure he will land it, but I honestly think Haye will take that off him, but then Wlad can punch hard with either hand so that kind of makes it difficult to predict.

Wlad fights 'scared' and I am still not convinced by his mental strength, you change a lot of things but not sure about the mental side of things.

Still going for Haye, but it wont be easy.

[Dan Dares]

I'm really surprised at the weighting towards Haye. I'd love him to win, but I've been cautious about backing an underdog UK fighter since Hatton convinced me he was about to give Mayweather a hiding Big Bad Wlad for me, to tell the truth I wouldn't be at all surprised if after all the bluster if it came via the judges. Haye to claim robbery, and vows to set the record straight against Vitali.

Great timing

Most likely scenario in my opinion, but hopefully, Haye will spark him.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Are you Jim Watt. Urban myth right there.

No it isn't. Any 200 lb plus man landing a hard flush punch can score a knockout. The knockout ratios are higher at heavyweight than flyweight for this reason.

Being able to land the punch is the hard part. It's not a given just because you weight 200lbs and 'can punch'. This time last year I weight over 200lbs. You think I have a chance over someone who is superior than me at the same weight? Bollocks.

I mean someone who is trained to fight, not some fat schlub.

[mikewl]

Its not an easy fight to predict but I don't think its gonna be fireworks early.

I think its just a matter of time from the 4th round to the 10th that Haye gets KO'd, I can see Haye getting pretty badly busted up by Wlads jab and every round that goes by Hayes chances seem to go out the window more.

Wlad will end up landing his straight right, Haye will take it but will fall with another follow up right against the ropes, he'll get up Wlad will come in land another jab or two then another right and ref jumps in to end the fight.

End result Wlad makes it look like a routine win.

[llamalew]

Wlad to have some hairy moments early on, then, take control in the latter half.

Wlad by Stoppage in round 10.

Totally agree, gonna lump a tenner on round 10. Haye will have his moments early on, scare wlad, wlad will take the middle rounds, haye will come out swinging late on (knowing only a ko will win him the fight in Germany) and wlad will hit the hammer blow in the 10th

[Jon Saxon]

Wouldnt it be mad if Haye came right out and did a 'Gurov' in Vlad?

[ThereByTheGrace]

I Think Wlad will win - but I dont know if he will knock him out.

I think this will be a very cagey fight for the majority with Wlad's jab controlling the fight - He might be safety first but so was Lennox Lewis and by god it worked well for him.

I just cant see Wlad being complacent - maybe if Haye hadnt opened his big mouth and tried to treat it like another fight. Haye is an excellent hype machine, but he isnt a proven heavyweight like Wlad is.