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Re: Adam Booth on SSN

Posted: 05 Jul 2011, 11:51
by Counter-puncher
THE MESSIAH wrote:Adam Booth tries too hard to be mysterious.
why would he have to try? he's satan.

Re: Adam Booth on SSN

Posted: 05 Jul 2011, 12:06
by earsjohn
rapid2 wrote:
Deserter wrote:Why, what did he say?
hinting that there is no point in a rematch because Haye would be seriously hurt.


basically george groves is his future now :lol:
He said nothing of the sort. Nor did he hint it. He avoided answering any questions on Haye's future, simply stating that he was having a drink with him tonight. Try to use facts to support whatever pathetic agenda you seem to have.

Re: Adam Booth on SSN

Posted: 05 Jul 2011, 12:12
by earsjohn
mrbassie wrote:
JDC wrote:Bring on the Wild Card gym
I can see that happening.
One thing that is funny is remembering all the build up hype about Booth's tactical nouse, when we now know that Booth's one tactic is Haye vs Valuev.
No chance. There is no stronger Boxer/Trainer relationship in world boxing.

And Booths nous? Yea he's hopeless. Took Haye to the unified Cruiserweight crown, in spite of a suspect chin, developed plans that allowed Haye to fight tactically perfect fights against Maccarinelli, Mormeck, Valuev; developed a plan for George Groves to beat Olympic Gold Medallist and future star of UK boxing, James Degale, despite every man and his dog saying he had no chance (and in many cases that he didn't deserve to share a ring) and he developed a plan for Haye against Wlad, a man 30lb heavier, that didn't see Haye take any punishment, saw Haye land a few shots of his own that made Wald notice and drove Wlad to put in his strongest performance in at least 6 years, if not in his entire career. Yeah, he's a clueless hack.

Re: Adam Booth on SSN

Posted: 05 Jul 2011, 12:19
by johnswan1
earsjohn wrote:
mrbassie wrote:
JDC wrote:Bring on the Wild Card gym
I can see that happening.
One thing that is funny is remembering all the build up hype about Booth's tactical nouse, when we now know that Booth's one tactic is Haye vs Valuev.
No chance. There is no stronger Boxer/Trainer relationship in world boxing.

And Booths nous? Yea he's hopeless. Took Haye to the unified Cruiserweight crown, in spite of a suspect chin, developed plans that allowed Haye to fight tactically perfect fights against Maccarinelli, Mormeck, Valuev; developed a plan for George Groves to beat Olympic Gold Medallist and future star of UK boxing, James Degale, despite every man and his dog saying he had no chance (and in many cases that he didn't deserve to share a ring) and he developed a plan for Haye against Wlad, a man 30lb heavier, that didn't see Haye take any punishment, saw Haye land a few shots of his own that made Wald notice and drove Wlad to put in his strongest performance in at least 6 years, if not in his entire career. Yeah, he's a clueless hack.
Well said. Booth is the Dark Lord and I get the feeling some people have been waiting a long time to be able to criticise his tactical know how.

Re: Adam Booth on SSN

Posted: 05 Jul 2011, 12:27
by dbf
earsjohn wrote:
mrbassie wrote:
JDC wrote:Bring on the Wild Card gym
I can see that happening.
One thing that is funny is remembering all the build up hype about Booth's tactical nouse, when we now know that Booth's one tactic is Haye vs Valuev.
No chance. There is no stronger Boxer/Trainer relationship in world boxing.

And Booths nous? Yea he's hopeless. Took Haye to the unified Cruiserweight crown, in spite of a suspect chin, developed plans that allowed Haye to fight tactically perfect fights against Maccarinelli, Mormeck, Valuev; developed a plan for George Groves to beat Olympic Gold Medallist and future star of UK boxing, James Degale, despite every man and his dog saying he had no chance (and in many cases that he didn't deserve to share a ring) and he developed a plan for Haye against Wlad, a man 30lb heavier, that didn't see Haye take any punishment, saw Haye land a few shots of his own that made Wald notice and drove Wlad to put in his strongest performance in at least 6 years, if not in his entire career. Yeah, he's a clueless hack.
Bang on Ears John.

Re: Adam Booth on SSN

Posted: 05 Jul 2011, 13:07
by lefthook82
earsjohn wrote:
mrbassie wrote:
JDC wrote:Bring on the Wild Card gym
I can see that happening.
One thing that is funny is remembering all the build up hype about Booth's tactical nouse, when we now know that Booth's one tactic is Haye vs Valuev.
No chance. There is no stronger Boxer/Trainer relationship in world boxing.

And Booths nous? Yea he's hopeless. Took Haye to the unified Cruiserweight crown, in spite of a suspect chin, developed plans that allowed Haye to fight tactically perfect fights against Maccarinelli, Mormeck, Valuev; developed a plan for George Groves to beat Olympic Gold Medallist and future star of UK boxing, James Degale, despite every man and his dog saying he had no chance (and in many cases that he didn't deserve to share a ring) and he developed a plan for Haye against Wlad, a man 30lb heavier, that didn't see Haye take any punishment, saw Haye land a few shots of his own that made Wald notice and drove Wlad to put in his strongest performance in at least 6 years, if not in his entire career. Yeah, he's a clueless hack.
He only quality tactics were Groves v Degale, a razor thin decision (I thought Degale won), and that in itself only worked because Degale and his trainer are clueless. If Degale had a trainer instead of a drill sergeant they would have realised early doors what Groves was playing at and they would have tried to counter it early and rectify it. When they engaged Degale looked a level above in my view

I might give you Mormeck at a push but Haye was much bigger than him, much fresher and still had to come off the floor to do it. And he was a bit fond of the rabbit punch in that fight as wel if I remember correctly l(Maybe that was a tactic)

You are reaching with everything else. Perfect tactics to blast out Enzo. Are you serious? That fight was always first big shot wins, Haye landed first.

Valuev. Just watch how a 166 year old Holyfield does it and copy it but with a lot less activity. A real hit and run performance if ever I've seen one

As for Wlad. I would give him credit for those Vlad tactics if Booth's plan was for Haye to preserve his model looks. Considering the plan was to unify the titles I'm not sure how he gets credit for that. To each his own I guess

Re: Adam Booth on SSN

Posted: 05 Jul 2011, 15:46
by los2
lefthook82 wrote:
earsjohn wrote:
mrbassie wrote: I can see that happening.
One thing that is funny is remembering all the build up hype about Booth's tactical nouse, when we now know that Booth's one tactic is Haye vs Valuev.
No chance. There is no stronger Boxer/Trainer relationship in world boxing.

And Booths nous? Yea he's hopeless. Took Haye to the unified Cruiserweight crown, in spite of a suspect chin, developed plans that allowed Haye to fight tactically perfect fights against Maccarinelli, Mormeck, Valuev; developed a plan for George Groves to beat Olympic Gold Medallist and future star of UK boxing, James Degale, despite every man and his dog saying he had no chance (and in many cases that he didn't deserve to share a ring) and he developed a plan for Haye against Wlad, a man 30lb heavier, that didn't see Haye take any punishment, saw Haye land a few shots of his own that made Wald notice and drove Wlad to put in his strongest performance in at least 6 years, if not in his entire career. Yeah, he's a clueless hack.
He only quality tactics were Groves v Degale, a razor thin decision (I thought Degale won), and that in itself only worked because Degale and his trainer are clueless. If Degale had a trainer instead of a drill sergeant they would have realised early doors what Groves was playing at and they would have tried to counter it early and rectify it. When they engaged Degale looked a level above in my view

I might give you Mormeck at a push but Haye was much bigger than him, much fresher and still had to come off the floor to do it. And he was a bit fond of the rabbit punch in that fight as wel if I remember correctly l(Maybe that was a tactic)

You are reaching with everything else. Perfect tactics to blast out Enzo. Are you serious? That fight was always first big shot wins, Haye landed first.

Valuev. Just watch how a 166 year old Holyfield does it and copy it but with a lot less activity. A real hit and run performance if ever I've seen one

As for Wlad. I would give him credit for those Vlad tactics if Booth's plan was for Haye to preserve his model looks. Considering the plan was to unify the titles I'm not sure how he gets credit for that. To each his own I guess
spot on mate...except i think his masterplan was for haye to jump on the floor every clinch....time to be put this dark lord garbage to bed

Re: Adam Booth on SSN

Posted: 07 Jul 2011, 05:15
by Rockys gum shield
I think has done nothing but distance himself from any future Haye plans, I seriously doubt any future fights will be under the guidance of Booth.

Re: Adam Booth on SSN

Posted: 07 Jul 2011, 05:18
by keithmoonhangover
Rockys gum shield wrote:I think has done nothing but distance himself from any future Haye plans, I seriously doubt any future fights will be under the guidance of Booth.
I know he's old, but i'd love to see Haye work with Angelo Dundee.

Re: Adam Booth on SSN

Posted: 07 Jul 2011, 16:17
by Finn
Rockys gum shield wrote:I think has done nothing but distance himself from any future Haye plans, I seriously doubt any future fights will be under the guidance of Booth.
It looked that way to me too. I think he's saying if hayes going on he's going without me as his trainer after oct 13th. And his focus if on groves now. Or at least he has no intention at this time of being his trainer after oct 13th.