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[Gomez took him too school, Nicky Cook was average and Nigel Wright ?[/quote]

I wouldn't say that Gomez took him to school, the fight was not disimiliar to David Haye's loss to Carl Thompson.

Alex Arthur demonstrated an amateur streak and totally abandoned defence.

It was a learning fight.

To put his career into context, Alex was like Billy Schwer a fighter that excelled at domestic level but did not quite have enough to make an impression at world level.

im sure aaa is a nice lad but he makes me cringe :!: i hate how he comes across talking politely on reasons why he wasnt this or that.i think he rates himself very highly :!:
his whole career was based on being the bigger man & used cutting weight as an excuse & also leaving trainers & saying over his back then flys out to the wildcard

cant stand him sorry.

hurlock wrote:im sure aaa is a nice lad but he makes me cringe :!: i hate how he comes across talking politely on reasons why he wasnt this or that.i think he rates himself very highly :!:
his whole career was based on being the bigger man & used cutting weight as an excuse & also leaving trainers & saying over his back then flys out to the wildcard

cant stand him sorry.

I'm the same he comes across false as eff. He still goes on about Gogaladze as if he was a real world champ, check his record post Arthur. His comments to Wayne Mculloch during a fight(can't mind which) were hillarious!!

billy nelson wrote:

Petaling Pete wrote:I always thought that he would achieve more than Scott Harrison as he seemed to posesses more talant.

However in retrospect Harrison achieved far more, although he relied far more on strength and size than finese.

Alex Arthur's fight with Michael Gomez was a cracker.

AAA was indeed a fine fighter but never ever in the class of Scott Harrison or Ricky Burns the proofs in the results my friend,the truth be known AAA and Scott very rearly even sparred in the gym

Biased shite.

I dont think its right to say that Arthur failed at world level. He never really had an opportunity. Its not his fault Guzman was a nightmare to pin down. By the time Arthur secured the title he was unable to make the weight effectively. Watch the Cook fight, that is not the real Alex Arthur. He was slow, sluggish and lacked intensity, all the hallmarks of a weight drained fighter. Arthur's career is defined by misfortune and bad timing not by lack of ability or being exposed at a higher level. He was a trmendous European champ and really was never even challenged at that level. He was a world class fighter and a big puncher, no doubt about it.

Trojans44 wrote:I dont think its right to say that Arthur failed at world level. He never really had an opportunity. Its not his fault Guzman was a nightmare to pin down. By the time Arthur secured the title he was unable to make the weight effectively. Watch the Cook fight, that is not the real Alex Arthur. He was slow, sluggish and lacked intensity, all the hallmarks of a weight drained fighter. Arthur's career is defined by misfortune and bad timing not by lack of ability or being exposed at a higher level. He was a trmendous European champ and really was never even challenged at that level. He was a world class fighter and a big puncher, no doubt about it.

got mullerd by a shot gomez.

say no more.

hurlock wrote:

Trojans44 wrote:I dont think its right to say that Arthur failed at world level. He never really had an opportunity. Its not his fault Guzman was a nightmare to pin down. By the time Arthur secured the title he was unable to make the weight effectively. Watch the Cook fight, that is not the real Alex Arthur. He was slow, sluggish and lacked intensity, all the hallmarks of a weight drained fighter. Arthur's career is defined by misfortune and bad timing not by lack of ability or being exposed at a higher level. He was a trmendous European champ and really was never even challenged at that level. He was a world class fighter and a big puncher, no doubt about it.

got mullerd by a shot gomez.

say no more.

Hmm wouldn't say that, I think that Gomez would have been a handfull for anyone on that night he was so fired up, wouldn't you hurlock?
One of the best Brittish fights ever, no doubt.

Gomez was indeed in tip top shape for that one.

The pressure he applied plus Arthur's seeming inability to defend left hooks made it a torrid night for Alex.

Personality wise, he's not my cup of tea. He always seems a bitter man to me, if it's not the weight it's his trainer, or some other spurious reason.... plus all this world champion crap bugs me.

I'd like him to call it quits before he suffers any further ego damaging losses, any thoughts of future world title fights ought to have gone out of the window after the clear points defeat to Nigel Wright, a man with several losses below domestic title class.

Jon Saxon wrote:

hurlock wrote:

Trojans44 wrote:I dont think its right to say that Arthur failed at world level. He never really had an opportunity. Its not his fault Guzman was a nightmare to pin down. By the time Arthur secured the title he was unable to make the weight effectively. Watch the Cook fight, that is not the real Alex Arthur. He was slow, sluggish and lacked intensity, all the hallmarks of a weight drained fighter. Arthur's career is defined by misfortune and bad timing not by lack of ability or being exposed at a higher level. He was a trmendous European champ and really was never even challenged at that level. He was a world class fighter and a big puncher, no doubt about it.

got mullerd by a shot gomez.

say no more.

Hmm wouldn't say that, I think that Gomez would have been a handfull for anyone on that night he was so fired up, wouldn't you hurlock?
One of the best Brittish fights ever, no doubt.

gomez had it imo in terms of potential & it is plain to see fw thought he was prime meat & fed him to arthur knowing if arthur couldnt defeat a past it gomez he aint the package & obviosly he knew there's a risk.
gomez didnt get lucky he batterd him.

I thought Arthur did a good job on commentary, he seemed a thoroughly nice fella to me.

In terms of his boxing career I always thought he was overrated, I just didn’t understand the hype, he wasn’t a massive puncher, wasn’t particular good on his feet, didn’t have the best of handspeed & was absolutely wide open.

Been strong, with good punch variety wouldn’t have been enough at world level, Guzman would have boxed rings around him.

hurlock wrote:

Jon Saxon wrote:

hurlock wrote:
got mullerd by a shot gomez.

say no more.

Hmm wouldn't say that, I think that Gomez would have been a handfull for anyone on that night he was so fired up, wouldn't you hurlock?
One of the best Brittish fights ever, no doubt.

gomez had it imo in terms of potential & it is plain to see fw thought he was prime meat & fed him to arthur knowing if arthur couldnt defeat a past it gomez he aint the package & obviosly he knew there's a risk.
gomez didnt get lucky he batterd him.

I agree but AA nearly had gomez out of there also, it was some fight.

I think AA was a good fighter who wouldn't listen.

yeah your right he seemed full of arrogance & used to annoy me on how he'd analyse@?his self he knew so much & i found it annoying. macklin is similar but no way near as bad.

hurlock wrote:yeah your right he seemed full of arrogance & used to annoy me on how he'd analyse@?his self he knew so much & i found it annoying. macklin is similar but no way near as bad.

I think he thought he was better than he actually was AND as a result couldnt get up for fights becasue he thought that they were beneath him, (if you see what i mean) when the truth his he shoudl have known his real limitiations and tried harder, like someone like say..Holyfield did.

I always liked Arthur he had the skills to go all the way. Ok he became a world champ but didnt exactly merit it. He was always a bit cocky had a bit of an ego i thought. He should retire and concentrate on promoting.

Jon Saxon wrote:

hurlock wrote:yeah your right he seemed full of arrogance & used to annoy me on how he'd analyse@?his self he knew so much & i found it annoying. macklin is similar but no way near as bad.

I think he thought he was better than he actually was AND as a result couldnt get up for fights becasue he thought that they were beneath him, (if you see what i mean) when the truth his he shoudl have known his real limitiations and tried harder, like someone like say..Holyfield did.

know one tries harder then holyfield man :!:

he has an olympic gold due to his skill set. you'll cause a riot on here they love holyfield on here :)

hurlock wrote:

Jon Saxon wrote:

hurlock wrote:yeah your right he seemed full of arrogance & used to annoy me on how he'd analyse@?his self he knew so much & i found it annoying. macklin is similar but no way near as bad.

I think he thought he was better than he actually was AND as a result couldnt get up for fights becasue he thought that they were beneath him, (if you see what i mean) when the truth his he shoudl have known his real limitiations and tried harder, like someone like say..Holyfield did.

know one tries harder then holyfield man :!:

he has an olympic gold due to his skill set. you'll cause a riot on here they love holyfield on here :)

Mate I was ringside in new york Holy v Lennox.....to see Evander, thats why I brought him up.

Do you know what? I remember when they were saying that Holy was boring after the Holmes fight?.... I mean ffs lol how spoilt wrere we all back then and we didnt even know it.?
I actually went back and watched the Holmes fight (I rememeber Steven Baldry saying to me "it is't a very good fight" when I bought it off of him) last week and it was a really good scrap.

Time distorts everything.

PS Evander scored Bronze

looks gold tho at l.heavy right. some feat to go on achieve what he did.

hurlock wrote:looks gold tho at l.heavy right. some feat to go on achieve what he did.

Indeed the man had the biggest heart of any fighter I have ever saw, he would have fought a lion.

I loved the Alex Stewart fight.

Jon Saxon wrote:

hurlock wrote:looks gold tho at l.heavy right. some feat to go on achieve what he did.

Indeed the man had the biggest heart of any fighter I have ever saw, he would have fought a lion.

I loved the Alex Stewart fight.

dwight muhammud quai was some tear up :!:

i was a kid at the time, i have really early memory's & used to constantly read magazines repeatedly :geek2: must have some form of aspergers i think

if i was basing my thoughts on them fights now id be saying he cant keep going to the well & he'll have a short career

hurlock wrote:

Jon Saxon wrote:

hurlock wrote:looks gold tho at l.heavy right. some feat to go on achieve what he did.

Indeed the man had the biggest heart of any fighter I have ever saw, he would have fought a lion.

I loved the Alex Stewart fight.

dwight muhammud quai was some tear up :!:

i was a kid at the time, i have really early memory's & used to constantly read magazines repeatedly :geek2: must have some form of aspergers i think

if i was basing my thoughts on them fights now id be saying he cant keep going to the well & he'll have a short career

It was some deep well, unreal when you think about it.

Even the 2nd Moorer fight he was so differant to the first.

"The Real Deal" indeed!

Jon Saxon wrote:

hurlock wrote:

Jon Saxon wrote: Indeed the man had the biggest heart of any fighter I have ever saw, he would have fought a lion.

I loved the Alex Stewart fight.

dwight muhammud quai was some tear up :!:

i was a kid at the time, i have really early memory's & used to constantly read magazines repeatedly :geek2: must have some form of aspergers i think

if i was basing my thoughts on them fights now id be saying he cant keep going to the well & he'll have a short career

It was some deep well, unreal when you think about it.

Even the 2nd Moorer fight he was so differant to the first.

"The Real Deal" indeed!

Jon unrelated question but do u work in the corner with the ingles?

Jeff Thomas wrote:

Jon Saxon wrote:

hurlock wrote: dwight muhammud quai was some tear up :!:

i was a kid at the time, i have really early memory's & used to constantly read magazines repeatedly :geek2: must have some form of aspergers i think

if i was basing my thoughts on them fights now id be saying he cant keep going to the well & he'll have a short career

It was some deep well, unreal when you think about it.

Even the 2nd Moorer fight he was so differant to the first.

"The Real Deal" indeed!

Jon unrelated question but do u work in the corner with the ingles?

No mate, I have no association with boxing I am but a fan.