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Re: should green retire?

Posted: 22 Jul 2011, 08:41
by ShadrachSimmo
If he's got a rematch clause he should probably go for it and retire no matter what the result.

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 22 Jul 2011, 21:18
by patron
i think dannys still got a lot of fight left in him,he was gun shy after that first big left, danny cannot box,he can fight,he had to take it up to the southpaw,i thought if he had busted ribs he would have wanted to get it over with early, he came to life in the 7th,we can all say IF but the result is there,he is still capable of beating some of the top ratings,and me mustnot forget he was the champ ,so he should be fighting the best , i think he has bulked up too much,as far as some clown said he was overrated i thought he earned that rating by claiming the title. all the best

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 23 Jul 2011, 00:18
by Mr Pringles
yes

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 23 Jul 2011, 01:58
by Brute
Mr Pringles wrote:yes
Yes what, Greenbottle?

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 23 Jul 2011, 05:02
by ratter
Green should give some of our good crop of current cruiserweight a chance give a bit back to Australian boxing. Mundine gave a few aussies a go can't say the same about green

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 23 Jul 2011, 15:50
by Adamj1987
rematch

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 24 Jul 2011, 08:03
by dberry
Thunder, why, with all due respect, do you start a thread on whether an Aussie fighter should retire or not as soon as they suffer a loss? it is tiresome for us and disrespectful to the fighter and his camp. Who are we to call for any professional fighter to retire? If you feel that way, then simply stop watching and/or supporting the fighter you wish would retire.

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 24 Jul 2011, 19:51
by Brute
ratter wrote:Green should give some of our good crop of current cruiserweight a chance give a bit back to Australian boxing. Mundine gave a few aussies a go can't say the same about green
What do you want Green to do? Fight blokes with less ability than himself?

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 24 Jul 2011, 20:34
by ratter
Brute wrote:
ratter wrote:Green should give some of our good crop of current cruiserweight a chance give a bit back to Australian boxing. Mundine gave a few aussies a go can't say the same about green
What do you want Green to do? Fight blokes with less ability than himself?
No i just think there are a few good aussie cruiserweights around who would put up a better fight then Roy Jones and if thecy don't get chance then when green goes the aussie cruiserweight division will suffer

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 00:47
by thunderfromdownunder
dberry wrote:Thunder, why, with all due respect, do you start a thread on whether an Aussie fighter should retire or not as soon as they suffer a loss? it is tiresome for us and disrespectful to the fighter and his camp. Who are we to call for any professional fighter to retire? If you feel that way, then simply stop watching and/or supporting the fighter you wish would retire.
dude its a boxing forum, were here to discuss things like this. I hardly think its disrespectful. The manner of the loss and Dannys age has meant that lots of people are askinq the same question. I dont do this everytime an aussie fighter losses (im guessing your talking about the katsidis thread a while ago to) its just that they both suffered nasty losses, well two in micks case and i just wanted everyones opinion on the matter

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 05:54
by dberry
OK, fair enough, for my two cents worth, I think he still has some thing to offer, with the right opponents he will still make some entertaining fights. A Tarver rematch would be a bad idea from Danny's point of view however.

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 06:07
by 'Frilla
ratter wrote:
Brute wrote:
ratter wrote:Green should give some of our good crop of current cruiserweight a chance give a bit back to Australian boxing. Mundine gave a few aussies a go can't say the same about green
What do you want Green to do? Fight blokes with less ability than himself?
No i just think there are a few good aussie cruiserweights around who would put up a better fight then Roy Jones and if thecy don't get chance then when green goes the aussie cruiserweight division will suffer
I think we have a handful of pretty solid and talented young Cruiserweights, lining them up with Green at this point is a bad idea. Still i do want to see Green fight on at the level he has been fighting, and i agree with dberry, a rematch with Tarver is not the way to go.

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 06:44
by thunderfromdownunder
yeah i still think he can make some noise. I wonder if he can make lhw? That might be an idea if he wont be draining to much. There is probably better fights for him there as well

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 07:23
by Trent
He has lost four fights and they have all been to world champions. Cameron is not in Green's class. Have a look at Tarver's record and see what a hard opponent green was in against. What would you know?
I didn't say Cameron would win, just saying it would be a competitive fight at 90kg due to Cameron being the bigger man, and able to absorb punishment from bigger guys. I'd like to see this fight if Green does decides to fight on. Not trying to disrespect Green, but he has had loads of amateur fights and pro fights now. I just think fighters that fight past their prime years run the greater risk of brain damage. Now we don't want to see that with Green now do we? he is fighting 90kg guys now, not 76kg guys and these guys punch much harder!

Like a previous poster said, Green should give some of the Aussie cruisers a go, now that would be entertaining.

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 07:30
by dberry

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 07:41
by Brute
Trent wrote:
He has lost four fights and they have all been to world champions. Cameron is not in Green's class. Have a look at Tarver's record and see what a hard opponent green was in against. What would you know?
I didn't say Cameron would win, just saying it would be a competitive fight at 90kg due to Cameron being the bigger man, and able to absorb punishment from bigger guys. I'd like to see this fight if Green does decides to fight on. Not trying to disrespect Green, but he has had loads of amateur fights and pro fights now. I just think fighters that fight past their prime years run the greater risk of brain damage. Now we don't want to see that with Green now do we? he is fighting 90kg guys now, not 76kg guys and these guys punch much harder!

Like a previous poster said, Green should give some of the Aussie cruisers a go, now that would be entertaining.
Like who? Cronje? With all due respect poor old Anton Nel went through him like a packet of Epsom salts through a super model. Meehan cleaned Nel up in his previous fight and he lost his next to Dlomo. I know Nel is a heavyweight but he is nowhere near world class. Cameron? Seriously, has he beaten anybody of substance?

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 21:08
by buster007
cronje was rorted in the nel fight by all reports.

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 26 Jul 2011, 01:24
by patron
going on cronje,s last fight i don,t think green has much to worry about,there is one glaring fault cronje,s trainer has to correct before he puts him in with a decent whacker, all the best

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 26 Jul 2011, 03:07
by buster007
leapai landed king hits on him for the duration of the fight. he was buggered, but i'm still of the belief that he is not human after seeing that fight and him still on his feet.

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 26 Jul 2011, 03:35
by Brute
buster007 wrote:cronje was rorted in the nel fight by all reports.
When is a first round KO a rort? :roll:

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 26 Jul 2011, 04:48
by Amateurone
Would love to see Brad Pitt get a crack at him...

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 26 Jul 2011, 10:57
by oliverfennell
thunderfromdownunder wrote:i think he should fight on. Maybe fight Cameron then if he wins try for a rematch with tarver? Im sure tarver would give him one, there would be alot of money involved. Another option would be to go back to lhw. Last night there was no catchweight and i think it showed green is no true cruiser. Either way, as much as ive been critical of him lately i think Australian boxing still needs him. No one gives a shit about mundine anymore and geale still isnt well known enough to be the main draw. Opinions...
So Green's now proven as no true cruiser, after having lost to a guy who fought almost primarily at LHW, so the answer is to fight Cameron, who spent the majority of his career at heavyweight?

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 26 Jul 2011, 10:59
by oliverfennell
crusader wrote:I don't think Green should go out on such a bad loss.
Nobody wants to, but how many really do finish their careers on a win?

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 26 Jul 2011, 11:01
by oliverfennell
dan h wrote:NO - But he should get a new trainer. H was crap in the corner last night.

Since when did Danny become a counter puncher that sit back on the ropes?
To be fair, his corner were imploring him all night long to stop trying to counter-punch, but for whatever reason, Green either could not or didn't want to follow instructions.

Re: should green retire?

Posted: 26 Jul 2011, 11:07
by oliverfennell
Beltane wrote:
Despite going into the fight with two broken ribs - suffered during a sparring session - Green said the injury and his burst appendix scare back in January had "absolutely no impact" on the shock stoppage after nine rounds.

The West Australian was also unsure about retirement, rematches or what hit he may have taken financially after the event attracted roughly 7000 fans and 30,000 pay-per-views.
The above was reported in today's Telegraph.

Paragraph 1 is interesting as Danny was NOT fit (which Tarver mentioned after the fight) when entering the ring and explains his tentative display. Paragraph 2 indicates Green Prommotions may have taken a financial hit as getting Tarver to our shores proved costly to Danny in more ways than one.

Football teams cannot carry an injured passenger into a match, eventually get found out on the scoreboard. Going into a fight, carrying an injury, left Danny cruelly exposed along with the spectactors and pay-for-view audience who paid out big bucks to watch.
Interesting that the fight didn't do well commercially. It used to be that Green could fight Rack'em Willie and people would flock to it. I guess they were still feeling the sting of the Briggs fight and bought into the cynics who said Green was going after "old men". How ironic that this "old man" turned out to the best opponent Green had ever faced.