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Brute wrote:I fought prelims in the 1970s. I never laid claim to be a champion. I think I am entitled to say Green has beaten better fighters than Pawsey has.

Brute wrote:

Mark pawsey wrote:

Brute wrote:He is still the only man to beat Flores who beat Ianuzzi last week.

Yes he beat one proper cruiser wieght. I think he should be fighting at light heavy but. Let's face it cruiser weight is abit of a bullshit division. If there was no cruiser weight Flores & Tarvor would be fighting at heavy weight and Green would be fighting at light heavy weight.

At that rate you would have to go along with Nat Fleischer who maintained that light heavyweight was a bullshit division.

stus wrote:Just a quick one to brute and the rocket. I dont know you guys or your history in the sport and im only new to this forum so you guys could be anyone but since i can only judge off the names you use on this forum thats what ill base my opinion on. Please correct me if im wrong. Mark pawsey is on here giving an opinion and u boys bag his record and tell him to concentrate on his own career. I can tell you from first hand experience mark is one tough sob and a more than handy boxer. Yes his record is fifty fifty but i think he is entitled to voice his opinion without being bagged. Mark has never claimed to be up there with the likes of danny green. As much as i dont agree with all his posts i will never bag what he has done he is a good club fighter keeping our sport going. Have u boys ever fought as pros. i doubt it as you would not bag the bloke. Again correct me if im wrong but can only go off the names u post under. Without blokes like mark this forum would be dead after all we want to talk boxing and mark is a boxer. Cheers guys. No disrespect meant but maybe you should show some more to our actual active fighters, just cause you dont agree with what he says doesnt make it wrong Just a quick one to brute and the rocket. I dont know you guys or your history in the sport and im only new to this forum so you guys could be anyone but since i can only judge off the names you use on this forum thats what ill base my opinion on. Please correct me if im wrong. Mark pawsey is on here giving an opinion and u boys bag his record and tell him to concentrate on his own career. I can tell you from first hand experience mark is one tough sob and a more than handy boxer. Yes his record is fifty fifty but i think he is entitled to voice his opinion without being bagged. Mark has never claimed to be up there with the likes of danny green. As much as i dont agree with all his posts i will never bag what he has done he is a good club fighter keeping our sport going. Have u boys ever fought as pros. i doubt it as you would not bag the bloke. Again correct me if im wrong but can only go off the names u post under. Without blokes like mark this forum would be dead after all we want to talk boxing and mark is a boxer. Cheers guys. No disrespect meant but maybe you should show some more to our actual active fighters, just cause you dont agree with what he says doesnt make it wrong

Mark pawsey wrote:

stus wrote:Just a quick one to brute and the rocket. I dont know you guys or your history in the sport and im only new to this forum so you guys could be anyone but since i can only judge off the names you use on this forum thats what ill base my opinion on. Please correct me if im wrong. Mark pawsey is on here giving an opinion and u boys bag his record and tell him to concentrate on his own career. I can tell you from first hand experience mark is one tough sob and a more than handy boxer. Yes his record is fifty fifty but i think he is entitled to voice his opinion without being bagged. Mark has never claimed to be up there with the likes of danny green. As much as i dont agree with all his posts i will never bag what he has done he is a good club fighter keeping our sport going. Have u boys ever fought as pros. i doubt it as you would not bag the bloke. Again correct me if im wrong but can only go off the names u post under. Without blokes like mark this forum would be dead after all we want to talk boxing and mark is a boxer. Cheers guys. No disrespect meant but maybe you should show some more to our actual active fighters, just cause you dont agree with what he says doesnt make it wrong Just a quick one to brute and the rocket. I dont know you guys or your history in the sport and im only new to this forum so you guys could be anyone but since i can only judge off the names you use on this forum thats what ill base my opinion on. Please correct me if im wrong. Mark pawsey is on here giving an opinion and u boys bag his record and tell him to concentrate on his own career. I can tell you from first hand experience mark is one tough sob and a more than handy boxer. Yes his record is fifty fifty but i think he is entitled to voice his opinion without being bagged. Mark has never claimed to be up there with the likes of danny green. As much as i dont agree with all his posts i will never bag what he has done he is a good club fighter keeping our sport going. Have u boys ever fought as pros. i doubt it as you would not bag the bloke. Again correct me if im wrong but can only go off the names u post under. Without blokes like mark this forum would be dead after all we want to talk boxing and mark is a boxer. Cheers guys. No disrespect meant but maybe you should show some more to our actual active fighters, just cause you dont agree with what he says doesnt make it wrong

true I don't think I could of put it better myself.

jezzamundo wrote:Danny Green fought in the 81kg division as an amateur, which is above the light heavyweight limit. He is a natural light heavyweight and always had to drain to make super middleweight limit, especially for his last couple of years in that division.

I read an article written shortly after his retirement, where he said that he had to drain 7kg to make light heavyweight, which suggests that his walking weight was around 86kg or 190lb.

For his first stint at cruiserweight he weighed 80-85kg, which he stated was a very comfortable weight for him. I believe he could have still made light heavyweight during this time, but he did not want to. When he fought Flores he weighed 89kg (195lb) and admitted that he drank 2 litres of water before the weigh-in, which suggests that his natural weight was still arond 86kg/190lb. After having his appendix removed, he lost over 10kg, much of which was muscle, which he regained plus some for the Tarver fight. Angelo Hyder said that Green was over the cruiserweight limit the day before the weigh-in against Tarver and judging by the photos, most of the additional weight was muscle.

I've said before that I think Green's best career option would have been to have not retired and stayed at light heavyweight. After beating Garay he could have pursued a unification fight against Dawson or Tarver.

I can't see Green fighting at light heavyweight again, if he's going to fight on, I think his best option is to fight at cruiserweight, but come in about 10lb under the limit rather than add bulk that does nothing for his speed or punching power.

Mark pawsey wrote:

Brute wrote:He is still the only man to beat Flores who beat Ianuzzi last week.

Yes he beat one proper cruiser wieght. I think he should be fighting at light heavy but. Let's face it cruiser weight is abit of a bullshit division. If there was no cruiser weight Flores & Tarvor would be fighting at heavy weight and Green would be fighting at light heavy weight.

Mark pawsey wrote:I heard you the first time ha ha

crusader wrote:Green definitely isn't a natural cruiser. Notice that he's smaller than Tarver in every category listed, except for reach.

Mark pawsey wrote:

Brute wrote:I fought prelims in the 1970s. I never laid claim to be a champion. I think I am entitled to say Green has beaten better fighters than Pawsey has.

Hey what name did you fight under? Boxrec tells the truff all the time ha ha

Brute wrote:

Mark pawsey wrote:

Brute wrote:He is still the only man to beat Flores who beat Ianuzzi last week.

Yes he beat one proper cruiser wieght. I think he should be fighting at light heavy but. Let's face it cruiser weight is abit of a bullshit division. If there was no cruiser weight Flores & Tarvor would be fighting at heavy weight and Green would be fighting at light heavy weight.

From your Boxrec record you are about 2 inches shorter than Green and your photo does not show you to be all that solid. Your win/loss/draw record (6-6-1)is not all that flash compared to Green's either. Maybe you should concentrate more on your own career.

hurlock wrote:is brute australian?

seems a historian id say he must be 60 with a great memory DD

Mark pawsey wrote:

Mark pawsey wrote:

Brute wrote:I fought prelims in the 1970s. I never laid claim to be a champion. I think I am entitled to say Green has beaten better fighters than Pawsey has.

Hey what name did you fight under? Boxrec tells the truff all the time ha ha

Hey where would the world be without Brute 33? So whats the name did you use when you fought in the 70s? Maybe you don't want to put your name on here because your a judge, & you judged some of my fights & your the reason my record is 50/50.

Brute wrote:

Mark pawsey wrote:

Mark pawsey wrote: Hey what name did you fight under? Boxrec tells the truff all the time ha ha

Hey where would the world be without Brute 33? So whats the name did you use when you fought in the 70s? Maybe you don't want to put your name on here because your a judge, & you judged some of my fights & your the reason my record is 50/50.

No. It is because I have children and grandchildren and these sites sometimes attract nutters.

Brute wrote:

hurlock wrote:is brute australian?

seems a historian id say he must be 60 with a great memory DD

Brute wrote:My brother and sister and I were all born there between 1947 and 1952. My mother said it was a great hospital and she was really sad when it was pulled down. She would travel from Granville to attend the clinics.

hurlock wrote:

Brute wrote:My brother and sister and I were all born there between 1947 and 1952. My mother said it was a great hospital and she was really sad when it was pulled down. She would travel from Granville to attend the clinics.

do only old girls live in granville D

how long have ozzies been in oz for??? do you no where your family resides from or what crimes???? not being funny neither, it's just somthing id be intrested in if i were australian. my family wasnt fortunate to get caught obviously.

hearns wrote:I think my ancestors were sent out here for looting and rioting.

Some things never change. ;;-)

Brute wrote:[I lived in a rent controlled house in Granville until I was 5 years old. Paul Hogan's family lived three streets across from the house, which has since been pulled down. I never knew Paul (he is a fair bit older than me) but my mother's family knew his family. We moved a couple of miles from there after Dad built his own house. My family goes back to 1928 in Australia. A great great grandfather was transported from Ireland for taking part in a rebellion against your lot.