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flatnoseflynn wrote:

Livingstone Cole wrote:I'm not sure who holds the record for most fights in a year, but I'm not sure that it'd be even possible to beat it in the modern era.

I bet Peter Buckley had a quite few in a year.

Len Wickwar 466 total bouts he must of had a few in a year

Crease wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ike had like 20 fights.

Yes sir, I know that. I wasn't referring to Ike's record numerically. I was simply using it as a blueprint example of how far a fighter can get while fighting basically no one worthy of note.

Perhaps I should have made myself clearer, I apologise.

No need to apologize, it was just a poor example in either context.

flatnoseflynn wrote:

Goodnight, Irene wrote:

flatnoseflynn wrote:Which boxing records do you think will never be beaten ?........I think Nikolai Valuev at over 7-foot, and 300 pound plus! will never be beat as the biggest ever heavy weight champion. And Marciano's 49-0 record is gonna be tough to beat in this day and age. What others ?

Too bad Valuev never was a champion.

WBA is a recognised championship so Valuev was a champion. Sorry FACT

Keyboard Warrior

Thanks for letting us know you started following the sport yesterday. We'll let you get a year or two under your belt before we continue.

Livingstone Cole wrote:

Goodnight, Irene wrote:Excuse me, Patterson was 21.

Nevertheless, that's the record. Tyson was 22 when he won the championship. The record is with Patterson. I'm honestly sick of hearing that Tyson BS.

OK.

Tyson won and held the fragmented titles to become undisputed (if not lineal) champion at an earlier age than anyone else.
I don't think anyone will beat that.

You cant be undisputed if yo arent the man who beat the man, & Tyson wasnt until too late to beat Pattersons record. Its just something people are fond of repeating. It isnt reality.

Doesnt Foreman hold the record for shortest time as an amateur prior to winning Olympic gold as well?

Goodnight, Irene wrote:Doesnt Foreman hold the record for shortest time as an amateur prior to winning Olympic gold as well?

Not sure about that one because there have been a LOT of Olympic champions over the years, but doesn't George hold the record of greatest number of years between winning titles at almost 22 years?

I think he's massively over-rated right now, but he certainly deserves recognition for that 1-2 he landed against Moorer.

Goodnight, Irene wrote:

flatnoseflynn wrote:

Goodnight, Irene wrote: Too bad Valuev never was a champion.

WBA is a recognised championship so Valuev was a champion. Sorry FACT

Keyboard Warrior

Thanks for letting us know you started following the sport yesterday. We'll let you get a year or two under your belt before we continue.

15000 post? mate you must have a sad life and before you get the grammer comments out tell somebody who cares

flatnoseflynn wrote:15000 post? mate you must have a sad life and before you get the grammer comments out tell somebody who cares

Or he just enjoys discussing boxing...
Isn't that way we are all on here?

Crease wrote:

flatnoseflynn wrote:15000 post? mate you must have a sad life and before you get the grammer comments out tell somebody who cares

Or he just enjoys discussing boxing...
Isn't that way we are all on here?

Yes we are, I just find the guy a bit ostentatious

Marciano's 49-0 and Louis' 25 defences & 11 years and 7 months have held for a long time. I don't think they will be beaten, even in this day of fractured titles, soft touches & manufactured rankings etc.

Moore's 145 KOs will never be beaten. Suspect that Lamar Clark's 44 consecutive KOs won't either.

How about the great Julio Cesar Chavez' 87 wins in a row? That would be hard to break.

There are 3 people who have longer ones? I thought he had an early draw or DQ overturned to a win?

Goodnight, Irene wrote:Excuse me, Patterson was 21.

Nevertheless, that's the record. Tyson was 22 when he won the championship. The record is with Patterson. I'm honestly sick of hearing that Tyson BS.

that is true, there's only about a month difference though and Patterson won the vacant title.

nobody's going to beat Joe Louis.

mrbassie wrote:nobody's going to beat Joe Louis.

Wlad Klitchsko is going the right way about it (duration I mean), I can easily forsee him going on defending his world title(s) once/twice a year for the next 5 years...
He's only 35 now. If he keeps himself in shape and eats properly, he could fight on until he's 42 or 43.

orbtastic wrote:Moore's 145 KOs will never be beaten.

With the way that boxing has become, and fighters becoming more lazy and less fight-prone, most fighters won't even fight 145 fights, never mind have that many knockouts.

orbtastic wrote:Suspect that Lamar Clark's 44 consecutive KOs won't either.

I suppose this could be borke somehwere down the line. Maybe someone will come along with punching power comparable to Mike Tyson or George Foreman and he could rip through lower class fighters and break that record.

Crease wrote:

mrbassie wrote:nobody's going to beat Joe Louis.

Wlad Klitchsko is going the right way about it (duration I mean), I can easily forsee him going on defending his world title(s) once/twice a year for the next 5 years...
He's only 35 now. If he keeps himself in shape and eats properly, he could fight on until he's 42 or 43.

Hes only been the champion-proper since 2009. He cant break Louis' record for the lineage in any way, shape or form.

Goodnight, Irene wrote:Hes only been the champion-proper since 2009. He cant break Louis' record for the lineage in any way, shape or form.

Well it depends on how you look a it, that's the trouble these days with having four World Champions...

Not to be argumentaive with you GI, but:
Wladimir Klitchsko has been the IBF Champion since April 2006.
If he does continue for another 7 years (until he's 42) then
he will have broken Joe's record.

Wont he have equalled it? Five years since 2006, plus another seven, equals Joes 12, no?

You cant just count from any belt, as I see it, anyway.

Goodnight, Irene wrote:Wont he have equalled it? Five years since 2006, plus another seven, equals Joes 12, no?

You cant just count from any belt, as I see it, anyway.

But the IBF is recognised as one of "the big four" world titles, and that's not my opinion... It's fact.
It's accepted bypractically everybody.

And I only said 42 as a hypothitical situation, Wlad could go on longer than that, because I can't see anyone on the horizon beating him, but seven years is a long time in boxing.

BarryWashington wrote:No faith in Mike Perez, Luis Ortiz or Amir Mansour? (Those are my three prospects that I think can have a good future in they continue to improve and keep that hunger/desire to win/compete at their best).

Throw in Pulev & Helenius to make it the "future five".[/quote]
If Wlad keeps his standard of boxing, then I can see him dropping other titles but keep his IBF title reign going...
(Like Lennox Lewis did).

I would also add that even if Wlad Klitchsko does break Joe Louis longevity record. His resume still wouldn't be as impressive as Joes.

Goodnight, Irene wrote:Excuse me, Patterson was 21.

Nevertheless, that's the record. Tyson was 22 when he won the championship. The record is with Patterson. I'm honestly sick of hearing that Tyson BS.

You will keep hearing it, google 'youngest heavyweight champion' and youll get Mike Tyson, the vast majority don't care what a small clique of snobs on boxing messageboards think about not beating the 'real champion' blah blah
Mike Tyson is the youngest heavyweight champion, end of

Tyson beat Tubbs when he was 21 years and 2 months to win the 3rd HW belt and unify the division for the first time since Ali had retired. Patterson was almost 22 when he beat Moore. Recognizing Spinks as the so-called "lineal" champion and therefore dismissing Tyson may sound noble, but is just silly.

Remember, Holmes never unified the titles during his long reign, and Ali had relinquished his title when he retired, resulting in his belt being legitimately won by John Tate. Anyone who wants to consider Holmes win over Ali as establishing any type of "lieage" would have to then agree that any retired champion could return whenever they wanted and reclaim their crown.

Too bad Marciano died in that plane crash or he could be lining up a title defense.

Tyson was the man, Spinks was the champion. Recognizing Bonecrusher Smith, Tony Tucker or Trevor Berbick over larry Holmes is exceedingly silly.