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Re: Mayweather-Ortiz KO.... same ball-park as Honeyghan-Bumphus?

Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 07:38
by stujones
Trojans44 wrote:
Gray-Fox wrote:I can tell how few of you have ever boxed or were ever good fighters. Unless you've been in there and know what one's instincts are like in those situations you should just pipe down.
What an utterly shite argument. Take it was fine in your view for Abraham to clock Dirrell? How about Tyson biting off Holyfield's ear? Didn't they act out of instinct?

Boxers are professional sportsman competing in regulated contests. Participants have the right to expect fairness. Its not a fight to to the death on a estate somewhere!
Agree Trojans44 - rules are rules and they should be adhered to. Sure we get exceptions (many of them) but mostly they are treated as rule breakers and are suitably punished (e.g. the two example you mentioned ended up getting disqualified).... Sure you get the odd few that slip by (Chisora's attempt bite was blatant cheating, as was Joe Calzaghe admitting to intentionally hitting Hopkins low unprovoked in the 2nd just two of many examples) - in most cases those, these are caught and fighters are suitably punished.

However, Mayweather DIDN'T break any rules and for my money didn't break any unwritten rules - just how many times did Ortiz had to appologise....Mayweather didn't make any gestures asking for a hug, he didn't stick out his hand and then punch him (as Eubank did many times but he was a good escentric British fighter who potrayed himself as a Gentleman, so people forget or don't wish to criticise). Ortiz appologised once before the Cortez docked a point - Mayweather accepted the touch glove and didn't cheap shot him then..... Ortiz then after the point deduction chose to appologise again and touch glove... .again Mayweather didn't cheap shot him there and accepted the appology. Ortiz then approached Mayweather for a hug... Mayweather didn't demand a hug... the fight was back on... protect yourselves at all times... Ortiz didn't.

Okay, so Mayweather might have more killer instinct than someone like Lennox Lewis who refused to KO a defensless fighter (McCall) - but nobody would have questioned it had he just knocked him out.... thats really what Mayweather did - Ortiz refused to defend himself, and Mayweather made him pay.

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz KO.... same ball-park as Honeyghan-Bumphus?

Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 07:42
by goldenears