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Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 08:23
by stujones
I agree LL, I'm dissapointed that he didn't go for Boner or go for the ring title. Wasn't there talk that Fana would have still been for the ring title even though he was stripped. I think Burns beats Fana easy.
My thoughts are that Warren might have found it difficult to sell Burns as a champion. He really hasn't had 3 of the most inspired title defenses since his remarkable performance against Martinez. Not alot in the devision in terms of talent, and those that are out there could seem to find more lucrative options. I would imagine the Boner thing was probably going to get the same type of coverage as Hatton/Rhodes vs Alvarez - I don't think the American's would have seen it as anything more than a celebration for Boner, and that might not have meant the most lucrative for Burns or the type of coverage he wants.
At least now if Burns beats Katsidis, he can attract at least 2 big fights for a "world" title that will be easy to make. Mitchell and Murray. Burns vs Arthur would be a big fight in Scotland also, that I would imagine would still very much be easy to make.
Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 08:29
by stujones
yid14 wrote:I think Katsidis warrants more of shot at a world title than Nicky Cook did. Saying that I'm not really sure Burns deserves one having never fought at lightweight. I've been reading articles on it though and it seems it's for the interim title, which really does make it a strange match-up.
True, what annoys me though is that it is for a vacant title. Nicky Cook was a former champion, who won the title off a champion - I think he was acceptable(ish) as a voluntary defense (top 20 independentish). Really, if this fight is for the vacant title it should be the #1 and #2 in the devision, if its for the interim it should be the #2 and #3 in the devision.... I think a case could be made for Burns being the #1 Super Featherweight and worthy of an immediate high ranking... Katsidis though, who lost so clearly against Geurrero, shouldn't be considered in the top 3.
As a title DEFENCE he would be fine, cause he is still very much in the top 10. There have been far far worst challengers fighting for vacant titles - both Morales and Cano were arguably less deserving, but still two wrongs etc.
Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 08:44
by Craig14
I'm torn on this because I'd like to see Burns win because he's British, hard working and good to watch but for me Katsidis is everything I like about boxing a warrior who doesn't mind who he fights or where. Personally I feel a step too far for Ricky Burns, but like I said we'll see. In hindsight Maybe I was abit harsh when I said he'd get hammered earlier. It doesn't matter about the title (whichever one it might be) there'll still be throwing plenty of punches at eachother.
Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 08:52
by LeedsLad
I'm just glad to see him in a ''proper'' fight.
Evensen was tiny, Laryea would struggle with my mother and Cook was done.
Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 12:56
by ThereByTheGrace
LeedsLad wrote:I'm just glad to see him in a ''proper'' fight.
Evensen was tiny, Laryea would struggle with my mother and Cook was done.

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 15:05
by Alba
Well , ihave had my suspcions this wont be in Scotland.The reason is that even thought it was announced last weeke they seem to be taking there time with getting tickets out when in the past it has been pretty quick ,wouldnae surprise me if they put this on England ...War rren dosent seem to have attended the last two fights up here and never does the press confrences either ,plus the last burns figth didnae sell aswell as it could ...which is a shame ...
so i wouldern be surprised if it wasent in Scotland and was in London at somewere like Wemblay arena or something

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 16:38
by Grays_Dan
Alba wrote:Well , ihave had my suspcions this wont be in Scotland.The reason is that even thought it was announced last weeke they seem to be taking there time with getting tickets out when in the past it has been pretty quick ,wouldnae surprise me if they put this on England ...War rren dosent seem to have attended the last two fights up here and never does the press confrences either ,plus the last burns figth didnae sell aswell as it could ...which is a shame ...
so i wouldern be surprised if it wasent in Scotland and was in London at somewere like Wemblay arena or something

For the reasons I've put above I hope your suspicions are wrong, but it could be due to the fact that MK only confirmed last night that it was verbally agreed. Still I's to be dotted etc. Should imagine we'll all find out on Thursday.
If it is in London, can anywhere reccomend somewhere in Glasgow decent to watch it :(
Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 16:41
by Emmseegee
Braehead arena at 50 quid a pop was a rip off tho....
Kelvinhall would sell out no problem in my opinion.
Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 16:41
by Craig14
Grays_Dan wrote:Alba wrote:Well , ihave had my suspcions this wont be in Scotland.The reason is that even thought it was announced last weeke they seem to be taking there time with getting tickets out when in the past it has been pretty quick ,wouldnae surprise me if they put this on England ...War rren dosent seem to have attended the last two fights up here and never does the press confrences either ,plus the last burns figth didnae sell aswell as it could ...which is a shame ...
so i wouldern be surprised if it wasent in Scotland and was in London at somewere like Wemblay arena or something

For the reasons I've put above I hope your suspicions are wrong, but it could be due to the fact that MK only confirmed last night that it was verbally agreed. Still I's to be dotted etc. Should imagine we'll all find out on Thursday.
If it is in London, can anywhere reccomend somewhere in Glasgow decent to watch it :(
The Gorbals

Put on an accent though.
Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 16:47
by Grays_Dan
yid14 wrote:Grays_Dan wrote:Alba wrote:Well , ihave had my suspcions this wont be in Scotland.The reason is that even thought it was announced last weeke they seem to be taking there time with getting tickets out when in the past it has been pretty quick ,wouldnae surprise me if they put this on England ...War rren dosent seem to have attended the last two fights up here and never does the press confrences either ,plus the last burns figth didnae sell aswell as it could ...which is a shame ...
so i wouldern be surprised if it wasent in Scotland and was in London at somewere like Wemblay arena or something

For the reasons I've put above I hope your suspicions are wrong, but it could be due to the fact that MK only confirmed last night that it was verbally agreed. Still I's to be dotted etc. Should imagine we'll all find out on Thursday.
If it is in London, can anywhere reccomend somewhere in Glasgow decent to watch it :(
The Gorbals

Put on an accent though.
Praying to god that it is in Glasgow - even if it aint I am giving The Gorbals a swerve, cant trust a Yid lol
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DD
Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 16:52
by Craig14
I worked there once, for a whole week. The first night we went for a beer after work, the next 6 we drank in our B&B. F*cking scary place.
Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 17:07
by Emmseegee
i would suggest heading out to coatbridge (10 miles outside glasgow city centre)
Burns' home town, pubs will be rocking for his fight most places in coatbridge.
Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 21 Sep 2011, 04:08
by billy nelson
yid14 wrote:I think Katsidis warrants more of shot at a world title than Nicky Cook did. Saying that I'm not really sure Burns deserves one having never fought at lightweight. I've been reading articles on it though and it seems it's for the interim title, which really does make it a strange match-up.
hes moving up as a superfeather weight champion and you automatically become mandatory for the next weight class thats why he deserves to be were he is,plus hes the best Light weight now hes moved up in the UK easily imo.
Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 21 Sep 2011, 04:17
by goldenears
billy nelson wrote:yid14 wrote:I think Katsidis warrants more of shot at a world title than Nicky Cook did. Saying that I'm not really sure Burns deserves one having never fought at lightweight. I've been reading articles on it though and it seems it's for the interim title, which really does make it a strange match-up.
hes moving up as a superfeather weight champion and you automatically become mandatory for the next weight class thats why he deserves to be were he is,plus hes the best Light weight now hes moved up in the UK easily imo.
so where and whens the fight billy?
Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 21 Sep 2011, 04:19
by billy nelson
goldenears wrote:billy nelson wrote:yid14 wrote:I think Katsidis warrants more of shot at a world title than Nicky Cook did. Saying that I'm not really sure Burns deserves one having never fought at lightweight. I've been reading articles on it though and it seems it's for the interim title, which really does make it a strange match-up.
hes moving up as a superfeather weight champion and you automatically become mandatory for the next weight class thats why he deserves to be were he is,plus hes the best Light weight now hes moved up in the UK easily imo.
so where and whens the fight billy?
Announced tommorow i think mate
Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 21 Sep 2011, 04:27
by goldenears
billy nelson wrote:goldenears wrote:billy nelson wrote:hes moving up as a superfeather weight champion and you automatically become mandatory for the next weight class thats why he deserves to be were he is,plus hes the best Light weight now hes moved up in the UK easily imo.
so where and whens the fight billy?
Announced tommorow i think mate
ah nice one! Something to look forward to at the FW press conference!
Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 21 Sep 2011, 12:43
by Alba
billy nelson wrote:goldenears wrote:billy nelson wrote:hes moving up as a superfeather weight champion and you automatically become mandatory for the next weight class thats why he deserves to be were he is,plus hes the best Light weight now hes moved up in the UK easily imo.
so where and whens the fight billy?
Announced tommorow i think mate
billy ,i hope its in Glasgow!i mean edinburgh to Glasgow is far enough !
Never mind edinburgh to London!

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 21 Sep 2011, 12:58
by ShadrachSimmo
Having it in Glasgow makes more sense. Burns would sell out most venues in Scotland.
Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 22 Sep 2011, 08:29
by Grays_Dan
So London it is then . . and the week before.
November 5th!
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But least its on and confirmed
Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 22 Sep 2011, 08:38
by MacTavish
where has this been confirmed? and where in london?
Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 22 Sep 2011, 08:41
by Grays_Dan
The Big Press Conference today - Wembley on November 5th - thing is The Rugby League Four Nations kicks off that day
Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 22 Sep 2011, 09:31
by Dioufy
Is this bad boy going to be free?
Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 22 Sep 2011, 09:58
by gobbles
Grays_Dan wrote:sgtcecil wrote:Read this on ESB.
Raging if true!
Mr Nelson????
Raging - I'll cry, paid for some flights to Glasgow last week
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Why buy flights for a fight that has not even been announced?
Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????
Posted: 22 Sep 2011, 14:12
by Grays_Dan
gobbles wrote:Grays_Dan wrote:sgtcecil wrote:Read this on ESB.
Raging if true!
Mr Nelson????
Raging - I'll cry, paid for some flights to Glasgow last week
![[icon_witsend.gif] :witzend:](./images/smilies/icon_witsend.gif)
Why buy flights for a fight that has not even been announced?
"Flybe September Sale" - oh well it's a gamble that never paid off