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Posted: 26 Jan 2004, 08:57
by Deserter
hitman_hatton1 wrote:he has been badly knocked out a few times in the amateurs
Are you sure? I thought he'd only be KO'ed once, by Jim Twite (spelling?) of Coventry in the ABAs.
Think he may have been stopped against the Cuban in the Worlds, but that was through exhaustion rather than being dropped, let alone knocked out...

Posted: 26 Jan 2004, 10:04
by knockout
DIRT SUGAR wrote:I met Haye for the first time on Saturday night at Wembley and was taken aback about how slight he looked. He looked, for want of a better word, almost spidery. Said his training was going well for Swaby.

For a cruiserweight, I expected him to be a bit bigger and broader.

Swaby's a good home-grown test at this stage for his career and he's an awkward, strong fighter who will give Haye at least a few good rounds.
he is a fairly small cruiser. Swaby seemed quite small when i met him too.
Now Johnny Nelson on the other hand seems a lot bigger....

Posted: 26 Jan 2004, 10:28
by knockout artist
Loftgroov wrote:I think a hell of a lot of David Haye, and yes he is world class material.

A lot of people seem to suddenly be somewhat down on him for getting decked against Mock, but fornicate it..... he got up, got on with it, and won the fight. How sweet was that uppercut..???

He'll learn from that and go on to be something special I would imagine. He's got the solid amateur grounding, every shot in the book, speed, power. If he could just keep his left hand up (he might get found out by top slot fighters otherwise) who is going to beat him?

I'm looking forward to him nailing Swaby in due course.
Mee too.

Posted: 26 Jan 2004, 11:48
by Southpaw Stylist
DIRT SUGAR wrote:I met Haye for the first time on Saturday night at Wembley and was taken aback about how slight he looked. He looked, for want of a better word, almost spidery. Said his training was going well for Swaby.

For a cruiserweight, I expected him to be a bit bigger and broader.

Swaby's a good home-grown test at this stage for his career and he's an awkward, strong fighter who will give Haye at least a few good rounds.
Conversely, when I glanced at him at the Brodie-Chi fight, I thought he was massive.

Posted: 26 Jan 2004, 12:22
by Chambers
Southpaw Stylist wrote:
DIRT SUGAR wrote:I met Haye for the first time on Saturday night at Wembley and was taken aback about how slight he looked. He looked, for want of a better word, almost spidery. Said his training was going well for Swaby.

For a cruiserweight, I expected him to be a bit bigger and broader.

Swaby's a good home-grown test at this stage for his career and he's an awkward, strong fighter who will give Haye at least a few good rounds.
Conversely, when I glanced at him at the Brodie-Chi fight, I thought he was massive.
I saw him at Hatton-Tackie and he is tall (6'3"), but he didn't look particularly stocky, under his pimps jacket.

I think he could beef up quite nicely into a HW. He is of a similar build to Enzo Maccarinelli who I also think could develop into a decent HW.

Re: David Haye

Posted: 26 Jan 2004, 12:42
by knockout artist
Matchfixer wrote:I read a few words from Swaby talking like he is RJJ about what he is going to do to Haye.

Can't remember the exact words (britishboxing.com is not working at the moment) but do fighters really believe they will win against superior opponents?! Surely if you are skilful enough to fight you should have the knowledge to know your limitations!

Will Swaby issue an apology for his misplaced words when he loses?

Haye will KO Swaby within 3 max.
Swaby will regret his big mouth. He has been very disrespectful.

Haye will look sensational as I suspect that he will prove to be fathom's above Swaby.

Posted: 26 Jan 2004, 12:45
by Chambers
In answer to the original question.

David Haye is the bollox, Nuff said.

He fairly-clearly got caught on the temple in the Lolenga Mock fight, so I don't think it is enough to condemn him as being 'chinny' as some people have suggested, I think the jury is still out with regards to Davids chin. IMO he is the most offensively exciting boxer in Britain at the moment, his combined speed, power and variety of punches are going to make him a challenge for anyone in the Cruiserweight division and I can see him making waves in the domestic Heavyweight division (at least) when he moves up.

Haye Vs Maccarinelli, would be fanatstic

Re: David Haye

Posted: 27 Jan 2004, 01:14
by Deserter
knockout artist wrote:
Matchfixer wrote:I suspect that he will prove to be fathom's above Swaby.
Surely you can only look fathoms below someone?! :wink:

Posted: 27 Jan 2004, 06:28
by stujones
I admire the man for taking on very credible challengers, early on his career.

I think we'll find out alot more about after the Swaby fight, if he wins that one then he can certainly call out Thompson seriously.

Thompson, of course, has his own agenda to deal with and if he's successful then he should be very much on the world title horison. That will be a few levels too much for at this stage of his career.

It will be interesting to see what route he takes, if he beats Swaby then your talking top 30 in the world (at the very least). Will he go for Hobson, Macrinelli etc - or will he go for some expereinced ex-world rated fighter on the slide.

Posted: 27 Jan 2004, 08:59
by Matchfixer
Deserter...

It was Knockout who wrote that!

Re: David Haye

Posted: 27 Jan 2004, 09:06
by knockout artist
Deserter wrote:
knockout artist wrote:
Matchfixer wrote:I suspect that he will prove to be fathom's above Swaby.
Surely you can only look fathoms below someone?! :wink:
Swaby is at 60,000 fathoms and Haye at 10,000 ftahoms, Haye is above him. :lol:

Shall I stop talking bollocks?