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stujones wrote:

Datsue wrote:

Looking over at the "Floyd wants PacMan May 2012" thread, it appears that stujones's man-crush is a certain Mr. Oscar De La Hoya.

We should get a sticky made up with all our man-crushes listed, so that newcomers & stupid people can look it up & know whether or not we're being pudenda about a particular issue or whether we're in love & just talking shite.

Always have maintained that I will typically defend the in ring performances and record of both Oscar and Tyson (except for the fouling antics of Tyson) when in debates. I especially find it bizarre when people will condem Oscar's resume and suggest he took easy options. I would hope I aint the only that finds it wrong when people claim the only "greats" or top class dangerous foes Oscar took on were shot fighters who had recently took batterings.

He aint the greatest of all time, far from it. Unlucky in some of his fights yes, but I really do believe if we are going to question the resume of who Oscar fought - then no fighter is safe from criticism. Only Pacquiao comes close as an active fighter in matching the resume of names (Froch/Ward is fast tracking their way there also).

As for Lights out, anyone with a man crush on him should not want to see him lose more of his marbles and continue. He'll always be entertaining but his speech is a massive concern and his inconsistencies in what he was saying.... only fighters from the states are any good, yet he doesn't have a bad word about Pacquiao.

Lenny wrote:

Datsue wrote: Keith, we've all got man-crushes. Say something about Ricardo Lopez or JMM & I'll bluster like a mofo. Talk smack about Nishioka-san & see how quickly Counter-Puncher annihilates you. Diss Erik Morales & Saadoffthedeck will call your mother a whore. Rip into Stevie Molitor & TML will get his g-string in a twist.

Terry's man-crush is James Toney. Leave it alone mate. Terence will as likely admit that Toney ever did anything wrong as admit that Pink Floyd are boring as fvck, or you will concede that the Jam only had five good songs.

My favourite Terry man crush would have to be Jermain Taylor. It was quite sad to see so many hopes and dreams dashed so quickly

Datsue wrote:

Lenny wrote:

Datsue wrote: Keith, we've all got man-crushes. Say something about Ricardo Lopez or JMM & I'll bluster like a mofo. Talk smack about Nishioka-san & see how quickly Counter-Puncher annihilates you. Diss Erik Morales & Saadoffthedeck will call your mother a whore. Rip into Stevie Molitor & TML will get his g-string in a twist.

Terry's man-crush is James Toney. Leave it alone mate. Terence will as likely admit that Toney ever did anything wrong as admit that Pink Floyd are boring as fvck, or you will concede that the Jam only had five good songs.

My favourite Terry man crush would have to be Jermain Taylor. It was quite sad to see so many hopes and dreams dashed so quickly

Ah, I forgot that one! The savage defence as he barely turned back a load of light-middleweights, the pre-fight predictions of doom for Pavlik... Gawd it takes me back, I tells ya.

Mind you, anyone on here remember my attempts to gee up Fernando Montiel before Donaire crushed him? Not even praising the tightness of his hotpants did any good. That reminds me, The Highly Official Come On JMM Megathread II is on its way...

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Quixall wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Just watched highlights of Toney v Iran Barklay, jesus what a clinic. Brutal stuff, Iran could barely land a glove on him either.

With hindsight too, his performance against Holyfield was absolutely mesmeric. Nobody else has EVER done that to Vander, before or since. Toney ripped him to pieces.

James, don't you think that was a rather shop soiled Holyfield that Toney beat ?

Do you think Toney would have been able to do that to the Holyfield that faced Bowe and Lewis ?

Of course, but Holyfield was still a hell of a lot nearer his prime, than he is now, and nobody has come close to battering him like that since.

In retrospect, Holyfield wasn't THAT far gone when he faced Toney.

big lennox wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Quixall wrote: James, don't you think that was a rather shop soiled Holyfield that Toney beat ?

Do you think Toney would have been able to do that to the Holyfield that faced Bowe and Lewis ?

Of course, but Holyfield was still a hell of a lot nearer his prime, than he is now, and nobody has come close to battering him like that since.

In retrospect, Holyfield wasn't THAT far gone when he faced Toney.

Holyfield was very far gone then.He was 42 and not a patch on the 34 year old version who beat Tyson and the 28-30 year old who traded so memorably in the first two fights with Bowe.

That said, Toney was still a joy to watch that night. I just think that the Holyfield that beat Tyson would have been too much for Toney.

big lennox wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Quixall wrote: James, don't you think that was a rather shop soiled Holyfield that Toney beat ?

Do you think Toney would have been able to do that to the Holyfield that faced Bowe and Lewis ?

Of course, but Holyfield was still a hell of a lot nearer his prime, than he is now, and nobody has come close to battering him like that since.

In retrospect, Holyfield wasn't THAT far gone when he faced Toney.

Holyfield was very far gone then.He was 42 and not a patch on the 34 year old version who beat Tyson and the 28-30 year old who traded so memorably in the first two fights with Bowe.

That said, Toney was still a joy to watch that night. I just think that the Holyfield that beat Tyson would have been too much for Toney.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

big lennox wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Of course, but Holyfield was still a hell of a lot nearer his prime, than he is now, and nobody has come close to battering him like that since.

In retrospect, Holyfield wasn't THAT far gone when he faced Toney.

Holyfield was very far gone then.He was 42 and not a patch on the 34 year old version who beat Tyson and the 28-30 year old who traded so memorably in the first two fights with Bowe.

That said, Toney was still a joy to watch that night. I just think that the Holyfield that beat Tyson would have been too much for Toney.

Oh I'm not suggesting that Toney would have won, against that version of Holyfield, still think it would have been one hell of a fight. Great matchup of styles.

I still think it remarkable that Toney was able to stop him though, even a few years later, Ibragimov was taken the distance.

hurlock wrote:im a big toney fan & he is ruthless which is fine as he is fearless :!: he knows his boxing without doubt even dropping in the great salvador there :!:

khan is being matched & trained to fight with caution & talking about him among greats, then yes he is a bum :!:

as for barkley & judah quix they wasnt exactly there :!: curry was a tremendous victory & honeyghan is well respected for his reighn as undisputed reighn. he fought who ever unlike mguigan who swerved nelson.

hurlock wrote:but arrogance is bliss & thats what makes him the stubborn warrior he is. his pride is immense & you can put his persona to the man in the ring.i love him