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Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 09:53
by mrbassie
wasn't really scoring it properly but 7-5 seemed right. I thought 9-3 was a bit too wide.

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 10:08
by Lightsoot
A draw for me but no complaints about Burns getting the nod. I thought Ricky could have raised his game but I don't think Katsidis extended him like Martinez did.

http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/upset- ... s-katsidis

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 10:52
by ALI
Interesting how many people on here that think Katsidis was good enough for a draw, or only lost by a round or two. Thats pretty shocking scoring, but not surprising to me, especially from the likes of Hagler who'd struggle to pick his own nose. Give the man his due, he wiped his arse with your 1k last night :OhYes:

Katsidis won a few rounds, but only because Burns allowed him to. Burns knew he had his number from very early on and knew he could take breathers here and there. He was a very comfortable winner and anyone who had this a draw, a split, or only by a point to Burns needs their heads looked at.

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 10:59
by JDC
116-113

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 12:33
by jimcook
ALI wrote:Interesting how many people on here that think Katsidis was good enough for a draw, or only lost by a round or two. Thats pretty shocking scoring, but not surprising to me, especially from the likes of Hagler who'd struggle to pick his own nose. Give the man his due, he wiped his arse with your 1k last night :OhYes:

Katsidis won a few rounds, but only because Burns allowed him to. Burns knew he had his number from very early on and knew he could take breathers here and there. He was a very comfortable winner and anyone who had this a draw, a split, or only by a point to Burns needs their heads looked at.
spot on.burns won handily.he paid him enough respect as katsidis always demands, , but in the end the judges cards,unusually, were accurate.

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 15:11
by stevek3lly
Emmseegee wrote:Burns 116-112 for me.
Me too.

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 07 Nov 2011, 05:01
by Counter-puncher
King Geedorah wrote:Delivers his right strangely these days.
doesn't he just.

117-111 looked fine to me, maybe 116-112 on replay, Katsidis missed loads.

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 07 Nov 2011, 05:33
by Lenny
Counter-puncher wrote:
King Geedorah wrote:Delivers his right strangely these days.
doesn't he just.

117-111 looked fine to me, maybe 116-112 on replay, Katsidis missed loads.
I noticed that as well, at first I thought he might be trying to follow through with the elbow but whatever it was it must have affected his leverage on the shot?

Good performance from Burns though, had him winning by about 3 rounds. Alex Arthur rematch next or am I just being cynical?

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 07 Nov 2011, 06:17
by Counter-puncher
he was doing it against Marquez, or at least that was when i first noticed it, he throws it weirdly up and down, can't get too much leverage on it i wouldn't have thought.

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 07 Nov 2011, 06:34
by Mensa07
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Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 07 Nov 2011, 06:46
by TheCobra
I had it 116-112 Burns, just landing much cleaner work. Yopu can't score for pitter patting on gloves and arms.

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 07 Nov 2011, 09:11
by ryanst1982
I had it 116-112 to Burns.

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 07 Nov 2011, 12:21
by Newport Daz
8-4 Burns. Wasn't close at all. Most of Kats punches were to Burns gloves and arms. Burns landed the most telling shots throughout. Katsidis hasn't said anything about it being a close fight, only that he struggled greatly to make weight which affected his performance. He'll be going to 140 for good I would have thought now.

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 07 Nov 2011, 12:53
by J
Newport Daz wrote:8-4 Burns. Wasn't close at all. Most of Kats punches were to Burns gloves and arms. Burns landed the most telling shots throughout. Katsidis hasn't said anything about it being a close fight, only that he struggled greatly to make weight which affected his performance. He'll be going to 140 for good I would have thought now.

yes this! WLL DONE RICKY!

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 07 Nov 2011, 15:48
by Giancarlo
King Geedorah wrote:
ALI wrote:Interesting how many people on here that think Katsidis was good enough for a draw, or only lost by a round or two. Thats pretty shocking scoring, but not surprising to me, especially from the likes of Hagler who'd struggle to pick his own nose. Give the man his due, he wiped his arse with your 1k last night :OhYes:

Katsidis won a few rounds, but only because Burns allowed him to. Burns knew he had his number from very early on and knew he could take breathers here and there. He was a very comfortable winner and anyone who had this a draw, a split, or only by a point to Burns needs their heads looked at.
That's how I saw it. Ricky gave a few breathers up but even then he wasn't shipping huge punishment. At one point Katsidis blazed for 2- seconds or so and barely a single shot landed, Burns then clipped him with the left and moved away from the ropes. Right uppercut was also a solid shot for Burns.

Burns took a lot of stick between Martinez and this, I believe pre-fight that he would do it on points due to his style but he kept his head commendably and his attitude, works hard and is not a big time Charlie, may be the key to him pulling out Ws like this when written off by many.

Obviously a lot of respect to Billy Nelson, he took Ricky on when many felt the boxer wasn't going far and has done well by him. Two title wins at two weights, the belts picked up against solid opposition, Billy must be laughing into his Irn Bru.

I gave Katsidis 3 rounds; he seemed well beaten to me.

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 07 Nov 2011, 23:50
by jessi
In my £55 seats I actually thought katsidis won, so did many people around me, when I watched it tonight on tv I made Ricky the winner by 2 rounds, IMO Ricky would of lost that in the USA !

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 04:53
by The 1bangkid
115-114 for Burns

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 11:42
by danboxer1
119-116 burns,burns defo took the first 3 pretty even from then on I thought

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 20:07
by IRLangmaid25
Glyn Leach wrote:I had it 115-113 for Ricky but the people sitting around me had it far wider
That's how I had it as well watching the highlights on allegedly as well as I had it

Round 1: Burns
Round 2: Katisdis
Round 3: Burns
Round 4: Burns
Round 5: Katisdis
Round 6: Burns
Round 7: Katisdis
Round 8: Katisdis
Round 9: Burns
Round 10: Burns
Round 11: Burns
Round 12: Katsidis

It would be interesting to see how everyone had it round by round as well.

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 10 Nov 2011, 08:35
by boxerbob
IRLangmaid25 wrote:
Glyn Leach wrote:I had it 115-113 for Ricky but the people sitting around me had it far wider
That's how I had it as well watching the highlights on Allegedly channel as well as I had it

Round 1: Burns
Round 2: Katisdis
Round 3: Burns
Round 4: Burns
Round 5: Katisdis
Round 6: Burns
Round 7: Katisdis
Round 8: Katisdis
Round 9: Burns
Round 10: Burns
Round 11: Burns
Round 12: Katsidis

It would be interesting to see how everyone had it round by round as well.
mate i had it the same as you except the 11th which i scored a draw...115-114

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 10 Nov 2011, 10:53
by IRLangmaid25
boxerbob wrote:
IRLangmaid25 wrote:
Glyn Leach wrote:I had it 115-113 for Ricky but the people sitting around me had it far wider
That's how I had it as well watching the highlights on Allegedly channel as well as I had it

Round 1: Burns
Round 2: Katisdis
Round 3: Burns
Round 4: Burns
Round 5: Katisdis
Round 6: Burns
Round 7: Katisdis
Round 8: Katisdis
Round 9: Burns
Round 10: Burns
Round 11: Burns
Round 12: Katsidis

It would be interesting to see how everyone had it round by round as well.
mate i had it the same as you except the 11th which i scored a draw...115-114
That is freaky I must admit.

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 10 Nov 2011, 11:11
by dbf
King Geedorah wrote:Had it 118-110 from ringside, Katsidis missed a staggering amount of shots along the ropes and was pasted at range. Felt he huffed and puffed to win some rounds so could see why they'd be given to him but he missed a crazy amount of shots. No complaints from him afterward, he was a class act.

A group of people a few rounds behind cried 'robbery' at the end, couldn't see it myself and the Australian writer beside me had Burns a handy winner also.

Anyone know if Mike's had any right elbow problems? Delivers his right strangely these days.
Exactly what I was thinking throughout the fight - he was bending elbow all weird.

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 10 Nov 2011, 13:07
by ALI
dbf wrote:
King Geedorah wrote:Had it 118-110 from ringside, Katsidis missed a staggering amount of shots along the ropes and was pasted at range. Felt he huffed and puffed to win some rounds so could see why they'd be given to him but he missed a crazy amount of shots. No complaints from him afterward, he was a class act.

A group of people a few rounds behind cried 'robbery' at the end, couldn't see it myself and the Australian writer beside me had Burns a handy winner also.

Anyone know if Mike's had any right elbow problems? Delivers his right strangely these days.
Exactly what I was thinking throughout the fight - he was bending elbow all weird.
Its nothing new, he's done that for some time. From certain angles it actually appears like he's trying to land an elbow. Perhaps its due to an uinjury that he picked up at some point during his career, i've no idea. Really does look wierd the way he throws it.

Re: how did you score burns vs katsidis?????

Posted: 10 Nov 2011, 13:09
by Dioufy
Yep, KG. I spotted that he wasn't throwing either hook correctly. I remember Mosley KO'ing Margo like that, but it is a specialist punch. I dunno if it was being thrown faulty trying to copy it or whether wear and tear would help your technique say ciao.

Dunno.