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Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 17:36
by 15829
housesecond wrote:The shot that did him last night would've taken some pretty good boxers out. He's not gone down at all in my eyes.
Agree he should be at MW. He's got plenty left.

Re the slagging he's getting for comments made, he's selling a fight. What do you want him to do?


great post

most people who slag smith off calling him arrogant have never met him ive met him 4 or 5 times and he always seems sound and you very rarely here anyone involved in boxing slag him off

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 18:12
by broomy7s
With allegedly on the go he won't retire and I think he should have 3/4 decent fights and when Groves goes on to world level he can fight again for the british tittle. Last night just proved Smith is british level and Groves can go on possibly to world level.

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 18:29
by tonyevs
Smith is clearly too small for s-middle .. Middleweight seems natural .. and in this day and age. Lt-middle is where he should be.

Thats what has got to be so frustrating for a guy like Paul Smith.
He is tallented. He sure can fight. But for some reason he can't drop the weight as some guys do.

You look at Bellew. Massive frame boiled down a good stone and half below his natural weight. Carl froch able to stay at his weight and looking capable of carrying a stone in weight and you'd hardly notice.
Then Smith struggling at 168 and looking like an overweight middleweight..

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 19:16
by Horse
tonyevs wrote:He is tallented. He sure can fight. But for some reason he can't drop the weight as some guys do.
Laziness?

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 19:50
by 15829
Horse wrote:
tonyevs wrote:He is tallented. He sure can fight. But for some reason he can't drop the weight as some guys do.
Laziness?

am not gallagher biggest fan but hes great for fitness so i wouldnt say he's lazy

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 20:01
by iamasadlittleboy
diggler wrote:
Horse wrote:
tonyevs wrote:He is tallented. He sure can fight. But for some reason he can't drop the weight as some guys do.
Laziness?

am not gallagher biggest fan but hes great for fitness so i wouldnt say he's lazy
Must be a reason why he looked like he had a spare tire...

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 20:04
by 15829
not everyones body type allows them to be ripped

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 20:14
by Horse
diggler wrote:am not gallagher biggest fan but hes great for fitness so i wouldnt say he's lazy
You don't think Smith can make middleweight? He didn't look like a big middleweight.

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 20:15
by Horse
diggler wrote:not everyones body type allows them to be ripped
Do you think he is big boned?

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 20:16
by 15829
its not about getting to the weight its about feeling strong at the weight, i think he will drop down now

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 20:17
by 15829
Horse wrote:
diggler wrote:not everyones body type allows them to be ripped
Do you think he is big boned?

hes stocky

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 20:25
by iamasadlittleboy
diggler wrote:not everyones body type allows them to be ripped
Flat stomach isn't ripped, but he had fat coming over his shorts, you don't need to be ripped to not have an extra layer of flab

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 20:29
by 15829
he was in the best shape of his life, only smith and his team no whether he make 160 without it taking to much away from him alls we can do is speculate

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 20:42
by AliAsghar
Think Paul smith vs Kenny Anderson looks like a fight that makes sense.. ; )

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 20:52
by iamasadlittleboy
diggler wrote:he was in the best shape of his life, only smith and his team no whether he make 160 without it taking to much away from him alls we can do is speculate

He looked better against Paul Samuels a few months ago...

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 07 Nov 2011, 03:13
by Glyn Leach
carlbcfc wrote:SAUNDERS !!!
I reckon you could put money on that one happening before the end of the season

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 07 Nov 2011, 05:01
by Go Faster Stripes
If he can make middleweight then Smith should be in against Craig McEwan next, a crossroads fight for both fighters.

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 07 Nov 2011, 05:28
by Twinkle Toes
Its comical, a lot of the people who are now saying he is too small for super middleweight were the same ones saying he would beat Groves.

His level is found, a drop to middleweight will revitalise him, but he's not a world beater, far from it. No shame in that, but he is going to have to take it a step at a time. He has plenty to offer the game, and should be able to achieve plenty to be proud of around the British/Euro scene.

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 07 Nov 2011, 15:40
by hurlock
all this body talk is getting tiring :!:

there have been some flabby guys that have had great engines & trained like trojans some body types work like that he may have a really slow metabolism.

if he does get down he may not perform, he did it amateur wise but in the pro's & with his style he needs his strentgh it's key.

b-hop goes to bed at 9'o's every night & want even have salt on his food :!: smith certainly needs to assess were he's going & what he realistically wants out of the sport & make bigger then ever sacrifices.@ s.middle he is area level @ middle he's title class

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 00:45
by Coco
While a step down to his more natural weight seems obvious, I have a feeling he will continue to get title opportunities at 12 stone

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 13:56
by hurlock
Coco wrote:While a step down to his more natural weight seems obvious, I have a feeling he will continue to get title opportunities at 12 stone

he certainly is going to get alot of work & he has a family to feed & if he does continue to fight at 12st i hope he starts coming in light to show he can do middle & earn respect for fighting out his category.

people should look how effective hatton was at l.welter(world beater) & how ineffective he was at welter.

the two defeats were not damaging phisically & i think he can make sense of the stuation mentally & can still achieve, he's a determined person & he has been humiliated which could make him switch on or off??


i do feel sorry for the lad, as people dont respect people for getting into contention or being good enough to be there in the first place,

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 14:01
by NazNaci1
He needs to box and move, like he did in the AMs & Commonwealth Games. Too late to change now but he had fast hands and punched in good combinations back then, utilising excellent movement.

Not sure why some fighters change what works for them. He went from that into a pressure fighter, relying on power. A switch to MW would be a good move as he looks too small against these SMW's. He only knows if he can do that or wants to do it, though.

It's just a shame he doesn't use his legs and boxing ability more.

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 14:14
by hurlock
smith was never a mover :!: thats barker.

smith was a box fighter.

he aint had much time with gallagher who i think suits him.the groves fight was too soon.

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 18:43
by stujones
I think where Smith is lacking most at Super Middleweight is his own punching power.... thats why I think he would be suited to the lower weight. Seemed to pack a big punch at Middle. With his style, or the style he has been operating of late, he needs to be strong.

At 29 - he is still young enough to start again make a real good go of it.

Re: What next for Paul smith

Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 18:52
by NazNaci1
hurlock wrote:smith was never a mover :!: thats barker.
Sorry Hurlock mate, I think if you could dig up some old AM fights, in particular the Commonwealth Games, when he won the Silver 2nd to Pascal, you will see that Paul was pretty good at sticking and moving.

I remember watching it and thinking, 'This kid has some ability'. :TU: